by Warfield Royal » 21 Sep 2006 17:27
by anR » 21 Sep 2006 19:35
Warfield Royal Statistically if something can happen then given enough time it will happen.
25,000 supporters for 20 matches a foot fall of around 1/2 a million people per year and is roughly 5 million people in a 10 year period.
If there is a 1 in a million chance of being hit by a bus then an average of 5 people will be hit by a bus in the next 10 years.
by Warfield Royal » 21 Sep 2006 19:38
anRWarfield Royal Statistically if something can happen then given enough time it will happen.
25,000 supporters for 20 matches a foot fall of around 1/2 a million people per year and is roughly 5 million people in a 10 year period.
If there is a 1 in a million chance of being hit by a bus then an average of 5 people will be hit by a bus in the next 10 years.
Actually that is a very good point...
Don't worry though. I have an idea.
After each match has finished we just need to hold everyone in the concourse. Then all those with bus tickets are allowed out, but they must show the bus tickets.
Now the only people outside the stadium will be people with bus tickets. After every bus is full up (taking that there will be an average of 5% of coach passengers per game who can not provide bus tickets, who must be left behind), they can leave. When the last bus has gone, everyone else can be let out.
The best thing about this plan is there will be no people walking about when the buses leave!
Byebye 0.5 people getting hit by a bus each year!
by RoyalBlue » 23 Sep 2006 12:50
anRRoyalBlueanRThe 17 Bus danger of a death.
Common sense, simple common sense. Death is a ridiculous assumption. If you see a bus you move. I find it laughable that this is a serious concern of yours. Nanny state indeed...
Kids have eyes in the back of their heads do they?! Death is by no means a ridiculous assumption if you go under the wheel of a bus.
My daughter nearly got hit by one last season and was only saved by the fact that my son realised what was happening and yanked her out of the way.
Which is exactly what Guardian's should do in situations like this, then the danger is reduced dramatically.
Having been in a road accident, I find it strong that people want further things changed to make sure that something unlikely of happening will ever happen.
Can we have the statistics of all serious accidents involving buses in the 7 years of our stadium please? Thanks.
by STAR Liaison » 24 Sep 2006 17:55
royal goof In an attempt to get the away coaches on their way, stewards were forcing all supporters to walk in the road....not onto the footpath!!
Then as they let the coaches go - you guessed it - they drive down the road, motoring past the pedestrians.
In hours of darkness and with small children amongst the fans I (and many others that were present last night) consider this to be a dangerous situation.
by Barry the bird boggler » 25 Sep 2006 09:21
by Lower West » 25 Sep 2006 10:59
by STAR Liaison » 25 Sep 2006 11:59
Barry the bird boggler By the way, anyone experience that incident on Saturday where one of the away coaches actually stopped to let thugs off to start trouble
I do hope some follow up can happen and that action can be taken against the driver and idiots on board.
by TFF » 25 Sep 2006 13:44
starliaisonBarry the bird boggler By the way, anyone experience that incident on Saturday where one of the away coaches actually stopped to let thugs off to start trouble
I do hope some follow up can happen and that action can be taken against the driver and idiots on board.
You may have heard that BBC Berks was certainly calling for people to send their experiences to STAR this morning. We have had several disturbing reports through already. If anyone wants to follow this up with more information please send it to info@star-reading.org.
by STAR Liaison » 25 Sep 2006 16:36
That Friday FeelingstarliaisonBarry the bird boggler By the way, anyone experience that incident on Saturday where one of the away coaches actually stopped to let thugs off to start trouble
I do hope some follow up can happen and that action can be taken against the driver and idiots on board.
You may have heard that BBC Berks was certainly calling for people to send their experiences to STAR this morning. We have had several disturbing reports through already. If anyone wants to follow this up with more information please send it to info@star-reading.org.
Lots of disturbing stories hereand here.
by royal goof » 26 Sep 2006 10:48
starliaisonroyal goof In an attempt to get the away coaches on their way, stewards were forcing all supporters to walk in the road....not onto the footpath!!
Then as they let the coaches go - you guessed it - they drive down the road, motoring past the pedestrians.
In hours of darkness and with small children amongst the fans I (and many others that were present last night) consider this to be a dangerous situation.
I spoke to the safety officer and he was unaware of any such instructions to force supporters into the road. Can you by more specific about where it occured so that he can find out which stewards were responsible and find out what was happening. I assumes from the date of posting that it was the Man City game, but which road? How close to the stadium? Was it near the coach layby?
by cheeryoleary » 26 Sep 2006 12:54
by RoyalBlue » 26 Sep 2006 13:37
by STAR Liaison » 26 Sep 2006 16:16
royal goof
Yes it happened after the Man City game and in fact happens after EVERY game. Man U was the same. Obviously it is more of a risk after dark though.
Its on Shooters Way (the slope going away from the South stand).
Away fans coaches are allowed to leave whilst thousands of fans are still walking past (after having to walk around the stadium) and are then forced into the right hand side of the road by a line of stewards... The footpath adjacent to Shooters Way is left empty (apart from a few 'rebels' that choose to make their safety a priority)
He is lying if he says he isnt aware of this happening!!! One of the stewards leading this wears an orange jacket and has a beard.
by Platypuss » 26 Sep 2006 16:57
RoyalBlue I'd like to back up Cheery on this one.
The real daft thing is that the stewards wait till the road is completely full of pedestrians before using a loudhailer to tell them to make way for the buses!! Just where are the thousands of pedestrians meant to make their way too? The pavement isn't big enough to hold them!
by RIP ELM Park » 26 Sep 2006 17:29
Platypuss I would also like to know what the club's view is regarding the footway alongside Hoops Way that ends abruptly at the roundabout (Hoops?) outside the TO carpark -
What route do they want/expect people to take if they come up Northern Way and want the East Stand or Gate 6 of the North?
by cheeryoleary » 26 Sep 2006 18:07
starliaison
And Cheery I have also passed on your comments.
by royal goof » 26 Sep 2006 21:18
starliaisonroyal goof
Yes it happened after the Man City game and in fact happens after EVERY game. Man U was the same. Obviously it is more of a risk after dark though.
Its on Shooters Way (the slope going away from the South stand).
Away fans coaches are allowed to leave whilst thousands of fans are still walking past (after having to walk around the stadium) and are then forced into the right hand side of the road by a line of stewards... The footpath adjacent to Shooters Way is left empty (apart from a few 'rebels' that choose to make their safety a priority)
He is lying if he says he isnt aware of this happening!!! One of the stewards leading this wears an orange jacket and has a beard.
I have passed this info on - though do you mean Hurst Way as Shooters Way is blocked by the safety gate isn't it?
And Cheery I have also passed on your comments.
More when I get a response
by royal goof » 26 Sep 2006 21:23
royal goofstarliaisonroyal goof
Yes it happened after the Man City game and in fact happens after EVERY game. Man U was the same. Obviously it is more of a risk after dark though.
Its on Shooters Way (the slope going away from the South stand).
Away fans coaches are allowed to leave whilst thousands of fans are still walking past (after having to walk around the stadium) and are then forced into the right hand side of the road by a line of stewards... The footpath adjacent to Shooters Way is left empty (apart from a few 'rebels' that choose to make their safety a priority)
He is lying if he says he isnt aware of this happening!!! One of the stewards leading this wears an orange jacket and has a beard.
I have passed this info on - though do you mean Hurst Way as Shooters Way is blocked by the safety gate isn't it?
And Cheery I have also passed on your comments.
More when I get a response
I could mean Hurst Way....sorry.
I found a photo on the website - its 11th one up from the bottom of the page - the the stretch of road I am on about is on the right hand side of the photo - the one that the away coaches leave via..
[/url]http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Outside/0,,10306,00.html[url]
I look forward to hearing an update. Thanks Starliason[/url]
by Royal Lady » 28 Sep 2006 17:28
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