Potter Todays atmosphere was excellent in the away end and a joy to see everyone standing through out.
Agreed.
by EASTENDER MARKY » 02 Oct 2006 08:55
Potter Todays atmosphere was excellent in the away end and a joy to see everyone standing through out.
by orange » 10 Oct 2006 14:36
by bobby1413 » 10 Oct 2006 14:42
orange Reading fans dont want to gain more rights to choice and freedom they like being forced around by the people in suits. I thought anyone who attends football matches would prefer not to watch football in the environment of forced seating, plastic music played after goals and being shouted at for blocking advertising boards by morons in florecent coats but nope Reading fans actually like it.
by West Stand Man » 10 Oct 2006 15:38
orange Reading fans dont want to gain more rights to choice and freedom they like being forced around by the people in suits. I thought anyone who attends football matches would prefer not to watch football in the environment of forced seating, plastic music played after goals and being shouted at for blocking advertising boards by morons in florecent coats but nope Reading fans actually like it.
by OldBiscuit » 11 Oct 2006 00:09
by orange » 11 Oct 2006 02:52
by OldBiscuit » 11 Oct 2006 23:25
by Cavaman » 12 Oct 2006 13:20
RoyalBlueWest Stand ManAndy M A few of us are meeting to discuss a peaceful protest we're planning outside our ground and during our game v Blackburn on the 29th October.
Anybody interested would be more than welcome to join us.
The main aim of this protest is to persuade our club (and hopefully others) that they should be speaking out, on behalf of their fans, in favour of safe standing areas. Many supporters are feeling increasingly alienated from their clubs as they feel strongly that the somtimes heavy handed enforcement of the regulations have a detrimental effect on the atmosphere that being a part of is integral to their support of their club. Indeed, the two supporters behind this protest have decided that they will no longer attend games at the Boleyn.
If you want to come along, drop me an email at info@standupsitdown.co.uk and I'll let you have details.
Andy M
http://www.standupsitdown.co.uk
Please ensure that you make it quite clear that you don't represent me or any of my family, all of whom love all seater stadiums.
The atmosphere at our match v Man Utd, and the atmosphere generally this season shows that sitting is NOT a negative effect.
You were clearly so absorbed in the game that you failed to spot large sections of the crowd, including virtually all of the away support, standing up throughout the game. I think this might have had something to do with the great atmosphere as I'm sure that any vocal coach will tell you that it is best to be standing if you really want to project your voice!
Also interesting that the Safety Office clearly decided that it was safer allowing the crowd to stand than trying to get his stewards/the police to make them sit down! Clearly standing really isn't that dangerous!
by Andy M » 12 Oct 2006 17:55
OldBiscuit Andy.. Get over it! The terraces are gone for good. Why do you want to go backwards to an environment that provides the neanderthals unrestricted movement, allows them to cause trouble, create havoc, and then just melt back in and hide in the crowd.
by OldBiscuit » 12 Oct 2006 23:25
by Andy M » 13 Oct 2006 11:23
by ruprecht » 13 Oct 2006 11:51
by Jerry St Clair » 13 Oct 2006 12:36
ruprecht Andy M, I'd ignore Old Biscuit and his sweeping statements as he just seems like a blinkered, bitter old man. He doesn't have the faintest clue what SUSD are trying to achieve and it looks like he just wants an argument with someone.
by Royalphil » 13 Oct 2006 12:50
by Top Flight » 13 Oct 2006 14:24
by West Stand Man » 13 Oct 2006 15:02
[/quote][/b]Top Flight Wheres the petition? I'll sign it!
Anyone who remembers the South Bank, I am sure would be in favour of having a choice to stand up! Football was far more enjoyable when you could go to the game and stand for 90 minutes. ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOUR. I HATED STANDING FOR 2 HOURS
Andy M is only saying that people who want to stand should have an area where they can stand and people who want to sit should have an area where they can sit!
How can people not be in favour of that! If there was an area where people could stand with lower prices to reflect the fact that standing is less comfortable than sitting. This might make football more attractive to lower income working class people again and I bet the pen would be full each game! BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE CHEAPER, BECAUSE THE NEW SO CALLED SAFER STANDING STILL OCCUPIES A SIMILAR SPACE PER FAN TO SEATING. SO YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE THE DISCOMFORT OF STANDING - BUT PAY THE SAME AS A SEATED FAN?
I don't see why half the East Stand towards the away end can't be converted into German style safe terracing when the stadium expansion goes ahead. That way there will be just as many seats that the Mad Stad had before. So that absolutely no one would lose out and the stadium capacity would increase from 38,000 to possibly 45,000. GERMAN STANDING AREAS ARE NOT THE RIGHT COMPARATOR. THE LEVEL OF TROUBLE IN BUNDESLIGA GROUNDS IS SUFFICIENT TO KILL OFF THE IDEA IN THIS COUNTRY; SO FAR AS CAPACITY IS CONCERNED SEE ABOVE.
I am 100% in favour of a standing area. Why can't people who want to stand have a chance to have an area where they can stand? BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS SO.
People who want to sit have an area where they can sit! What is so wrong about that?
by Top Flight » 13 Oct 2006 16:14
[/b][/quote]West Stand ManTop Flight Wheres the petition? I'll sign it!
Anyone who remembers the South Bank, I am sure would be in favour of having a choice to stand up! Football was far more enjoyable when you could go to the game and stand for 90 minutes. ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOUR. I HATED STANDING FOR 2 HOURS
Andy M is only saying that people who want to stand should have an area where they can stand and people who want to sit should have an area where they can sit!
How can people not be in favour of that! If there was an area where people could stand with lower prices to reflect the fact that standing is less comfortable than sitting. This might make football more attractive to lower income working class people again and I bet the pen would be full each game! BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE CHEAPER, BECAUSE THE NEW SO CALLED SAFER STANDING STILL OCCUPIES A SIMILAR SPACE PER FAN TO SEATING. SO YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE THE DISCOMFORT OF STANDING - BUT PAY THE SAME AS A SEATED FAN?
I don't see why half the East Stand towards the away end can't be converted into German style safe terracing when the stadium expansion goes ahead. That way there will be just as many seats that the Mad Stad had before. So that absolutely no one would lose out and the stadium capacity would increase from 38,000 to possibly 45,000. GERMAN STANDING AREAS ARE NOT THE RIGHT COMPARATOR. THE LEVEL OF TROUBLE IN BUNDESLIGA GROUNDS IS SUFFICIENT TO KILL OFF THE IDEA IN THIS COUNTRY; SO FAR AS CAPACITY IS CONCERNED SEE ABOVE.
I am 100% in favour of a standing area. Why can't people who want to stand have a chance to have an area where they can stand? BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS SO.
People who want to sit have an area where they can sit! What is so wrong about that?
by Andy M » 13 Oct 2006 16:34
by shadesrwrf » 13 Oct 2006 18:14
OldBiscuit Andy, you are so, so, so naive. You are living in a fantasy world of misguideness. CCTV does not stop trouble, it just enables the authorities to identify the culprits AFTER the events. Trouble makers cause trouble away from the ground, but would soon return to causing trouble inside the ground should terraces return. Banning orders are only applicable to those that have been caught and have been proven far from foolproof. A few incidents of disorderly behaviour have broken out in all seater stadiums, in fact Millwall did a pretty good job at the Mad Stad back in 1999, but rioting is quite difficult in all seaters, (seats get in way, stops running battles. Had to point that out due to your short sight) and the stewards were soon able to deal with it a lot quicker than they could possibly have done on terraces.(Bristol City, Portsmouth, Etc. @ Elm Park). Yes, terraces still remain, at Cardiff for example. I rest my case there. And what has German football got to do with English football. German football is rife with hooliganism.
Terraces were the original class insult to ordinary folk. 'We the 'well off' will have the seats and the ordinary bloke can stand on terraces, thats good enough for them, they should be so grateful'. How patronising!
You also don't seem to realise that as the club has grown over the last ten years, should for some ludicrous reason that the terraces did return, its not going to be 5,000 people scattered comfortably around the ground as it was at Elm Park, it would be 35,000 squeezed in, with no chance of reaching any of the facilities. Victoria for queen, you cock!
by Andy M » 13 Oct 2006 19:06
Royalphil :shock:
I find this debate pointless... do you see terraces in the new plans for the Mad Stad?
It ain't gonna happen...
I too enjoyed the old days of terraces at Elm Park... and, somewhat, the standing at Upton Park the other Sunday....
Unfortunately choice is not an option these modern days...
...seats are safer...
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