Royalty Points Discussion

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Royalty Points Discussion

by Keeper » 20 Feb 2007 12:55

After seeing some of the issues regarding Royalty points I thought I would ask how many points people out there actually have

Warfield Royal How many royalty points?

2004/05
Season ticket - 150
Away League games - 46
Home Cup games - 25 (2 x 10, 1 x 5)
Away Cup games - 4
Home friendly - 0 (before scheme in place)

2005/06
Season ticket - 140
Away League games - 46
Home Cup games - 50 (all 10s)
Away Cup games - 6
Home friendly - 5
STAR membership - 10
Handing out placards - 10?

2006/07
Season ticket - 195
STAR Membership - 10 points
Feyenoord (Friendly) - 20 points
Darlington (Carling Cup) - 20 points
Liverpool Away (Carling Cup) - 5 points
Burnley (FA Cup) - 10 points
Manchester United Away (FA Cup) - 5 points
14 Away Games (to Middlesbrough) - 70 points

Total - 827

So the current theoretical total before Arsenal Away is 827 Royalty Points


Actually it cannot be that, as Stoke City tickets were pay on the day, so we've never had those points

I am actually interested to see who has the most number of Royalty points out there? Anyone actually got over 820??

If we can get an idea of the number of points people have and the size of the bands then I am sure that some representation of this can be made to the Club.[/quote]

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by Huntley & Palmer » 20 Feb 2007 12:57

I would expect that STAR (if they pulled their finger out) could get data from RFC. However, I'm not sure if publishing this information would contravine the Data Protection Act

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by Gordons Cumming » 20 Feb 2007 13:00

I think if Warfield North Stand had pulled his finger out and not delayed and got his ticket earlier he would now not be having this problem. :wink:

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by T.R.O.L.I. » 20 Feb 2007 13:01

Huntley & Palmer I would expect that STAR (if they pulled their finger out) could get data from RFC. However, I'm not sure if publishing this information would contravine the Data Protection Act


Surely there would be no controvention (if that's a word) if they said:

800+ points - 10 member cards
775 - 799 points - 3 member cards

etc

Can't be hard to download it from a database (if the club actually have one :roll: ).

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by readingbedding » 20 Feb 2007 13:01

They couldn't obtain that Data, it's on the T's and C's that all information remains confidential.

We have over 750 points for each of our 4 cards.

There is about 15 odd hardcore supporters that I know, but have higher and lower amounts than myself.

For Arsenal for example, a mate only had 300+ points so I got them on my Dad's card, because he cannot make it.


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by Keeper » 20 Feb 2007 13:02

If the Club told STAR the numbers of people in each bracket, and the maximum number of points someone could have that would not contravine the DPA.

If the told STAR individual names and the number of points they had then that would contravine the DPA.

However I am just interested for my own benefit too, plus if people can get an idea of the numbers of points some people have it might reduce the amount of winging you get from people who lose out on certain match tickets.

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by coyrls » 20 Feb 2007 13:02

Huntley & Palmer I would expect that STAR (if they pulled their finger out) could get data from RFC. However, I'm not sure if publishing this information would contravine the Data Protection Act


Date Protection, it always gets quoted. There is no data protection issue here as the information would be aggregated and individuals could not be identified.

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by Keeper » 20 Feb 2007 13:05

Just for the record, I have 815 points and haven't missed a game for nearly 3 years, but have only had a season ticket for 7

The reason I asked the original question is that people complain they've had an ST for 10, 15, 20 years but cannot get tickets for Arsenal etc because they are in a lower bracket for tickets that another 3000 people

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by purleyroyal » 20 Feb 2007 13:06

I'm plastic with only around 250 points - admittedly all hard-earned as I've never had a ST.

But looking at that list above, I also got a 5 points starter when I signed up for a member card


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Re: Royalty Points Discussion

by AJ~ » 20 Feb 2007 13:07

Warfield Royal How many royalty points?

2005/06
Season ticket - 140
Away League games - 46
Home Cup games - 50 (all 10s)
Away Cup games - 6
Home friendly - 5
STAR membership - 10
Handing out placards - 10?

There was also a leaflet at the start of the season called "Royalty Points - Your Guide To Reading Football Club Loyalty Scheme 2005" which had a form you could fill in and hand to the ticket office to earn yourself 5 bonus points for giving the TO your up to date contact details - honestly!

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by Tart Man » 20 Feb 2007 13:07

Would we not be entitled to this information under the "Freedom of information act" ?

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by Adrian's Fool » 20 Feb 2007 13:11

Tart Man Would we not be entitled to this information under the "Freedom of information act" ?


That's for information held by public bodies only.

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by PieEater » 20 Feb 2007 13:13

I think this would be a really good discussion to have if the club had got the banding so wrong that the tickets sold out in the first band.

As they didn't I can't see the point, this one was always going to sell out quickly, and there was no point in staggering it more as there were so few tickets to sell.

Games like this will be more popular as STHs who pick and chose away games will pick this one (and Liverpool) not Blackburn or Wigan, some people may not like it but I on the whole I think the member points system works well.

I'm expecting the same to happen for Spurs away.


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by Warfield North Stand » 20 Feb 2007 13:15

I told you how many points I had Mr Cumming. Now take that back....

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by readingbedding » 20 Feb 2007 13:17

I am not interested in who has lower or higher points than myself.

We all know when to call according to what banding you are in.

Why would it reduce the whinging?

All the fans who couldn't make it to the Arsenal match, might think of why that is the case?

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by Forbury Lion » 20 Feb 2007 13:22

Huntley & Palmer I would expect that STAR (if they pulled their finger out) could get data from RFC. However, I'm not sure if publishing this information would contravine the Data Protection Act
Nothing to stop the club looking at their own data and producing a list of points held per fan with the fans names removed. They can then use this themselves to count down from the top of the list until they reach the number of tickets available, then set the lower limit at that points total and give everyone a couple of days to get tickets before dropping it by another 50 or so places (depending on how many callers they can handle).

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by Keeper » 20 Feb 2007 13:22

readingbedding Why would it reduce the whinging?


If people can see how much effort it takes to get to the higher brackets they may not winge that because they've had a season ticket for x years they have any more right to get an Arsenal ticket than anyone else

readingbedding All the fans who couldn't make it to the Arsenal match, might think of why that is the case?


I hope so

readingbedding See you at Boro.


Indeed you might

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Re: Royalty Points Discussion

by Warfield Royal » 20 Feb 2007 13:24

Keeper Actually it cannot be that, as Stoke City tickets were pay on the day, so we've never had those points
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Anyone who purchased Young Royals to Stoke Away got 2 royalty points. Except me. I purchased 2 tickets, they both appeared on my sons online order history and he got 2 points and I didn't. :evil:

BTW Credit for the data at the top of this goes to a previous Nobber who first posted the list. I have maintained it since.

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by fridays child » 20 Feb 2007 13:24

readingbedding
For Arsenal for example, a mate only had 300+ points so I got them on my Dad's card, because he cannot make it.


This is where the system is flawed, your mate with 300 gets to go, someone with 550 doesn't.

Not knocking you for doing it, I'm sure you weren't the only one.

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by Warfield Royal » 20 Feb 2007 13:26

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For Arsenal for example, a mate only had 300+ points so I got them on my Dad's card, because he cannot make it.


This is where the system is flawed, your mate with 300 gets to go, someone with 550 doesn't.

Not knocking you for doing it, I'm sure you weren't the only one.


And the person who didn't go now has 555 points. :roll:

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