Bottom of the travel table

[Compo's Hat]

An hour to get to the ground on the F11 bus from Emmer Green last night when plenty didn't bother going, no wonder we're bottom!

[West Stand Man]

"Miles out of town and virtually unreachable by scheduled buses" is utter bollocks isn't it?

Yes it is utter bollocks. But this has been written by a half wit!

[southbank1871]

An hour to get to the ground on the F11 bus from Emmer Green last night when plenty didn't bother going, no wonder we're bottom!

How many away fans travel from Emmer Green do you think?

[southbank1871]

"Miles out of town and virtually unreachable by scheduled buses" is utter bollocks isn't it?

Yes it is utter bollocks. But this has been written by a half wit!

Bit harsh on Dirk.

[Compo's Hat]

An hour to get to the ground on the F11 bus from Emmer Green last night when plenty didn't bother going, no wonder we're bottom!

How many away fans travel from Emmer Green do you think?

Did you not see all the empty seats around the home stands

[Green]

Probably the worst survey and conclusions drawn from it I've ever seen.

with some surprising results – the champions on the pitch weren’t necessarily the best at helping fans with more choices in how to get to watch their heroes.

Surprising? Only an idiot, or the authors of this survey (not mutually exclusive, it seems) would suggest there is a direct correlation between results on the field and bus connections off it

Survey highlights :

fans that get to the game by walking, cycling and bus spend the least

NSS. If this is a highlight then I'm not reading on.

Also - as someone else pointed out - how on earth are QPR second bottom, when they are within walking distance of five tube lines and a national rail station?

[Sport Economist]

It looks like we are going to finish 19th in the League but we have actually come out of it a place worse when it comes to transport to the Mad Stad:

http://www.bettertransport.org.uk/football

[maffff]

This is bad.

[Silver Fox]

I just hope the findings weren't based on some bollocks or other about there being no buses

[sandman]

Absolutely devastated. Fold the club.

[handbags_harris]

There's what, about 10 buses to the suburbs of Reading holding, in the best case scenario, around 80 people, say another 10 buses to the outlying towns like Farnborough and Bracknell also holding 80 fans each, that's 1600 fans. Then you have the buses from the station, how many trips do they make, 20? 80 people each again (they tbf are always rammed full), that's another 3200. Then you have the park & ride, smaller single deckers used for that, 60 people, they run, what, 10 trips? 700 people.

So you have 1600, 3200, 700 which makes 5,500 fans getting to the ground by bus. A quarter. Take away the away fans who travel by bus, in the PL I suppose the average would be 5 coaches? 70 people each again, 350. So say 6,000 fans make it to the ground by bus or coach. What other option is there to get to the stadium? Car. Without taking into account the empty seats this season we have an average of c23.5k. 17.5k of those have to make the trip by car, or walk if they are within walking distance.

No wonder we're f*cking bottom of this study. Take a look at the initiatives run by other clubs, offer transport that is actually financially viable, build a f*cking rail station on the Basingtoke line and maybe even a tram (as part of a wider Reading area scheme) and bingo. Seriously, the transport planning for the stadium is inadequate, and has been since it opened.

[melonhead]

There's what, about 10 buses to the suburbs of Reading holding, in the best case scenario, around 80 people, say another 10 buses to the outlying towns like Farnborough and Bracknell also holding 80 fans each, that's 1600 fans. Then you have the buses from the station, how many trips do they make, 20? 80 people each again (they tbf are always rammed full), that's another 3200. Then you have the park & ride, smaller single deckers used for that, 60 people, they run, what, 10 trips? 700 people.

So you have 1600, 3200, 700 which makes 5,500 fans getting to the ground by bus. A quarter. Take away the away fans who travel by bus, in the PL I suppose the average would be 5 coaches? 70 people each again, 350. So say 6,000 fans make it to the ground by bus or coach. What other option is there to get to the stadium? Car. Without taking into account the empty seats this season we have an average of c23.5k. 17.5k of those have to make the trip by car, or walk if they are within walking distance.

No wonder we're f*cking bottom of this study. Take a look at the initiatives run by other clubs, offer transport that is actually financially viable, build a f*cking rail station on the Basingtoke line and maybe even a tram (as part of a wider Reading area scheme) and bingo. Seriously, the transport planning for the stadium is inadequate, and has been since it opened.

when the busses from the burbs get full, they lay on extra. theres been two from farnboro most of this season etc. if the demand is there, id imagine theyd sort it

[Alexander Litvinenko]

There's what, about 10 buses to the suburbs of Reading holding, in the best case scenario, around 80 people, say another 10 buses to the outlying towns like Farnborough and Bracknell also holding 80 fans each, that's 1600 fans. Then you have the buses from the station, how many trips do they make, 20? 80 people each again (they tbf are always rammed full), that's another 3200. Then you have the park & ride, smaller single deckers used for that, 60 people, they run, what, 10 trips? 700 people.

So you have 1600, 3200, 700 which makes 5,500 fans getting to the ground by bus. A quarter. Take away the away fans who travel by bus, in the PL I suppose the average would be 5 coaches? 70 people each again, 350. So say 6,000 fans make it to the ground by bus or coach. What other option is there to get to the stadium? Car. Without taking into account the empty seats this season we have an average of c23.5k. 17.5k of those have to make the trip by car, or walk if they are within walking distance.

No wonder we're f*cking bottom of this study. Take a look at the initiatives run by other clubs, offer transport that is actually financially viable, build a f*cking rail station on the Basingtoke line and maybe even a tram (as part of a wider Reading area scheme) and bingo. Seriously, the transport planning for the stadium is inadequate, and has been since it opened.

when the busses from the burbs get full, they lay on extra. theres been two from farnboro most of this season etc. if the demand is there, id imagine theyd sort it

Doesn't that just apply to the more remote buses, which use non-'Ding companies? I think Reading Buses are already using just about all the capacity they have (vehicles and drivers) already, so don't have any more flexibility to add extra into the mix.

[melonhead]

thats a shuttle though. so they just keep going round and round till everyones got there

[Alexander Litvinenko]

True, but that doesn't help the peak time at around 5pm when everyone wants to be on a bus - it's about 20 minutes between the first bus leaving and getting back for its second trip. The only way to reduce the queuing would be to have more buses ready and waiting.

[Winchester Royal]

True, but that doesn't help the peak time at around 5pm when everyone wants to be on a bus - it's about 20 minutes between the first bus leaving and getting back for its second trip. The only way to reduce the queuing would be to have more buses ready and waiting.

It would also be good if they filled up more than one bus at a time.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

True, but that doesn't help the peak time at around 5pm when everyone wants to be on a bus - it's about 20 minutes between the first bus leaving and getting back for its second trip. The only way to reduce the queuing would be to have more buses ready and waiting.

It would also be good if they filled up more than one bus at a time.

For that they'd need to have a set of people at each bus counting the number of people getting on, and an individual queue for each bus. Otherwise all you get is people rushing onto the nearest bus, lots of pushing and shoving, no crowd control or queuing and over-loaded buses.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

The report mentions the Green Park railway station being on hold. Is it on-hold, or has it been pretty much binned?

Not sure things were much better when we had the small multi-storey car park, but a new purpose-built multi storey, with multiple exits would probably help things, as would a temporary one-way system or re-routing of traffic before and after the game.

On hold until housing development at Green Park ever restarts. Whether that ever re-starts is another question.

Not sure it's the number of exits from the car park that's the problem - it's the roads outside that they exit onto that are the hold-up.

If you mean the huge development at kennet meadows etc.. I thought it couldn't now happen till at least 2026

[Alexander Litvinenko]

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2102282_green_park_station_plan_hits_the_buffers