The not renewing ST list

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by TFF » 16 Jun 2007 09:44

Renewals closed - anyone know how many not taken up?

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by premiership_bound » 16 Jun 2007 10:10

'm sure someone does

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by West Stand Man » 16 Jun 2007 10:58

Woodcote Royal At less than £600, our season tickets cost no more than a decent night out for 2 taking in a top West End restaurant. There is no shortage of locally based football fans who enjoy this kind of lifestyle.

Whilst I can see a number of long term supporters deciding that £30 a match is too expensive, I will be amazed if the club have the slightest difficulty in passing on these seats to others with deeper pockets.

I feel sorry for those who struggle to pay the price of Premiership football but, given the current success of the team in one of the best leagues in the world, there will be many who see a seat at the Mad Stad as good value for money.....................me included.


You, me, my dad, my daughter, my nephew and my brother-in-law and about 15k+ others. Mind you, if you were to believe the apparent weight of opinion on here the club won't have sold any STs at all!

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by Winchester Royal » 16 Jun 2007 13:00

I've not renewed mine, but it was kind of by accident.

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by working class hero » 16 Jun 2007 13:31

I have renewed 4 and lapsed the other 2. If prices rise any further I shall make this my last season.

As WR points out there are many who can afford these prices so in the short term those of us who drop out will not be missed. I suspect when the bad times return nemesis will strike. The glory hunters will not stick around and I - and I suspect most other long term fans who were priced out - will not return to watch the team even if prices drop.


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by susieroyal » 16 Jun 2007 17:24

Woodcote Royal At less than £600, our season tickets cost no more than a decent night out for 2 taking in a top West End restaurant. There is no shortage of locally based football fans who enjoy this kind of lifestyle.

Whilst I can see a number of long term supporters deciding that £30 a match is too expensive, I will be amazed if the club have the slightest difficulty in passing on these seats to others with deeper pockets.

I feel sorry for those who struggle to pay the price of Premiership football but, given the current success of the team in one of the best leagues in the world, there will be many who see a seat at the Mad Stad as good value for money.....................me included.


600 quid for a night out??!! Surely no food in any restaurant is worth paying that for!

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by philM » 16 Jun 2007 19:38

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Woodcote Royal At less than £600, our season tickets cost no more than a decent night out for 2 taking in a top West End restaurant. There is no shortage of locally based football fans who enjoy this kind of lifestyle.

Whilst I can see a number of long term supporters deciding that £30 a match is too expensive, I will be amazed if the club have the slightest difficulty in passing on these seats to others with deeper pockets.

I feel sorry for those who struggle to pay the price of Premiership football but, given the current success of the team in one of the best leagues in the world, there will be many who see a seat at the Mad Stad as good value for money.....................me included.


600 quid for a night out??!! Surely no food in any restaurant is worth paying that for!


If you go for a mini suite at the Hilton on your Big London Night Out it would cost you £650 for that alone. If you fancy the 4 Seasons you could pay £2,400.

And it's impossible to get a room at either of them at weekends unless you book way ahead. A meal, bar & taxis and your average London hotel will easily cost you £600 for a few hours of hedonism.
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by Baines » 16 Jun 2007 19:39

susieroyal
Woodcote Royal At less than £600, our season tickets cost no more than a decent night out for 2 taking in a top West End restaurant. There is no shortage of locally based football fans who enjoy this kind of lifestyle.

Whilst I can see a number of long term supporters deciding that £30 a match is too expensive, I will be amazed if the club have the slightest difficulty in passing on these seats to others with deeper pockets.

I feel sorry for those who struggle to pay the price of Premiership football but, given the current success of the team in one of the best leagues in the world, there will be many who see a seat at the Mad Stad as good value for money.....................me included.


600 quid for a night out??!! Surely no food in any restaurant is worth paying that for!


Wine.

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by Woodcote Royal » 16 Jun 2007 22:22

susieroyal
Woodcote Royal At less than £600, our season tickets cost no more than a decent night out for 2 taking in a top West End restaurant. There is no shortage of locally based football fans who enjoy this kind of lifestyle.

Whilst I can see a number of long term supporters deciding that £30 a match is too expensive, I will be amazed if the club have the slightest difficulty in passing on these seats to others with deeper pockets.

I feel sorry for those who struggle to pay the price of Premiership football but, given the current success of the team in one of the best leagues in the world, there will be many who see a seat at the Mad Stad as good value for money.....................me included.


600 quid for a night out??!! Surely no food in any restaurant is worth paying that for!


I agree, but try getting a table at a top London restaurant :?


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by Spirit of Elm Park » 16 Jun 2007 22:37

working class hero I have renewed 4 and lapsed the other 2. If prices rise any further I shall make this my last season.

As WR points out there are many who can afford these prices so in the short term those of us who drop out will not be missed. I suspect when the bad times return nemesis will strike. The glory hunters will not stick around and I - and I suspect most other long term fans who were priced out - will not return to watch the team even if prices drop.


However, I can't afford a ST but i will still get one. I believe it is still value for seeing the team I have supported since a lad, playing in the best league in the world, even if the prices did rise slightly, which they won't, I'd still pay.

Given the age of this thread and the apparent lack of posts, I would say the non renewals are a small minority.

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by Chaney » 17 Jun 2007 06:03

really make me wonder if its worth extending the stadium if we are struggling to sell out of ST,s now

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by Bowman's Quiver » 17 Jun 2007 08:44

Chaney really make me wonder if its worth extending the stadium if we are struggling to sell out of ST,s now


How do you know we are struggling to sell out now?

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by shadesrwrf » 17 Jun 2007 08:56

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Chaney really make me wonder if its worth extending the stadium if we are struggling to sell out of ST,s now


How do you know we are struggling to sell out now?


There's absolutely no chance we'll be struggling. I know of several people who are hoping to get STs this time round, and I'm sure plenty of others do too.


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by weybridgewanderer » 17 Jun 2007 09:20

Chaney really make me wonder if its worth extending the stadium if we are struggling to sell out of ST,s now


3 or 4 people that post on here indicate they are not renewing does not mean we will struggle to sell out o fseason tickets

however as nigel howe keeps saying the expansion will give scope for "pricing options". Hopefully mean those that can't these prices year in year out will have an opportunity to come back.

Rather than price, I think the bigger threat to season tickets is if we stay mid table season after season.

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by Behindu » 17 Jun 2007 09:26

From what I understand the numbers sold are not at all bad, but there will be scope for new STH to get one.
Given that many people who aren't renewing seem to be banking on getting tickets on a match by match basis I think we'll still be selling out every week - making it pretty obvious why we are expanding the ground !

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by Skin » 17 Jun 2007 11:08

non renewals were MINIMAL.

demand will outstrip supply for new ST's again

source: bird in TO yesterday letting me renew late.

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by The 17 Bus » 17 Jun 2007 20:25

Good news, means my dad will get to games as he is able to, without there being an empty seat, so that means more will be able to attend matches, also means I have enough for most games if I choose to attend.

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by Behindu » 17 Jun 2007 20:28

Skin non renewals were MINIMAL.

demand will outstrip supply for new ST's again

source: bird in TO yesterday letting me renew late.


Numbers I heard were a little higher than 'minimal' to be honest, but probably about what would be expected.
I'd always reckoned you'd get a 10% turnover annually and if you add in a number of 'one season wonder' types and a proportion that the club may have decided not to allow to renew and the numbers seem right from what I was told.

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by TFF » 17 Jun 2007 20:43

Behindu
Skin non renewals were MINIMAL.

demand will outstrip supply for new ST's again

source: bird in TO yesterday letting me renew late.


Numbers I heard were a little higher than 'minimal' to be honest, but probably about what would be expected.
I'd always reckoned you'd get a 10% turnover annually and if you add in a number of 'one season wonder' types and a proportion that the club may have decided not to allow to renew and the numbers seem right from what I was told.


Persistant standing?
Tickets to away fans?
Fighting the above away fans?

Tell us what you know :wink:

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by Behindu » 17 Jun 2007 20:54

Thinking more of the people mentioned in another thread who had their ST cancelled due to not keeping up with instalments...

I suspect that there were also some tickets traced back to agencies etc

Any bans for standing etc would probably have just been for a few games, doubt many would be given long term banning orders.

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