Club's double standard . . . .

[Svlad Cjelli]

Will do - but if people could just remember that the club are doing what they are told to do by the SGSA & RBC to meet the terms of their safety licence - and like any organisation will do the minimum they think possible to meet the requirements - it'll put so many things into perspective.

They're in the business of selling tickets, not persecuting groups of supporters.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Can I just add that RFC do not have to insist that an away club sell every ticket above the minimum allocation, they can be sent on a sale or return basis if the two clubs agree, and that is the same for all clubs that we go to as well. RFC would rather take the income from 1500 extra tickets than none, so if we were in no danger of sellng the seats, then there is no need to insist an away club has to before we allocate more.

Just saying like tho I think I said it twice .
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[Svlad Cjelli]

Can I just add that RFC do not have to insist that an away club sell every ticket above the minimum allocation, they can be sent on a sale or return basis if the two clubs agree, and that is the same for all clubs that we go to as well. RFC would rather take the income from 1500 extra tickets than none, so if we were in no danger of sellng the seats, then there is no need to insist an away club has to before we allocate more.

Just saying like tho I think I said it twice .
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True. But they do have the right to insist on payment in full, which would be the insurance policy against opening up half the stand (with cost of stewards, refreshments, etc) and then only having 20 people in it. As you say, it's a mutual agreement thing, with the home club having a right to insist on certain things.

[Barry the bird boggler]

What we all need is a safe standing campaign.....

[EPR]

Has it been documented anywhere what is so unsafe about standing?

[EPR]

After all if transient standing is OK but persistent standing is unsafe then I want to understand why that is.

[jonboy29red]

can you see the kop or stretford or end being closed for constant standing ? it comes over to be one rule for big clubs and one for smaller

[Red]

can you see the kop or stretford or end being closed for constant standing ? it comes over to be one rule for big clubs and one for smaller

Sounds like it's down to the local council and presumably Machester and Liverpool councils don't reallly give as much of a pfuck as Wolverhampton.

So not really different rules for bigger clubs, more a case of different umpires.

[Svlad Cjelli]

can you see the kop or stretford or end being closed for constant standing ? it comes over to be one rule for big clubs and one for smaller

Reductions in capacity are just as effective as closing a stand. Currently a similar threat hangs over St James Park over persistent standing......

[davis69]

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the difference?

[davis69]

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the difference?

[davis69]

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the difference?

[Silver Fox]

Please ask about concerts next

a similar threat hangs over St James Park over persistent standing......

The where?

[Svlad Cjelli]

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the
difference?

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the difference?

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the difference?

Because that is not classed as "persistent standing" - it's that which is against ground regulations, not standing per se.

[davis69]

But what is the difference between standing for 30 mins before the game and standing for 30 mins in the game

[The Cube]

Clubs have to offer 10% of the stadium capacity (or 3,000 seats)- whichever is lower. Clubs have the option to offer more than that - up to any figure they like.

I have some really bad news for you. We got relegated. It was a while ago.

[West Stand Man]

Why is it acceptable to stand at half time and before the game? But not while the match is going on? What's the difference?

You really aren't helping the standing case with your mindless observations. There are some valid arguments in support of standing - try to focus on them rather than this type of stupidity.

[FiNeRaIn]

Hilarious that Rugby League teams can have Terracing but football can't. New St helen's ground for 2012 to have both seating and standing options.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_St_Helens_Stadium

[who are ya?]

But football fans are all brain dead hooligans who don't know how to stand up for 90 minutes without causing deaths

[Ian Royal]

But what is the difference between standing for 30 mins before the game and standing for 30 mins in the game

The law says you can do one and not the other.

It's well known the law is an utter ass in this case and there is really is no genuine safety concern about standing that, ahem... stands up The problem comes that football has a bad press still and most the MPs either don't give a rats arse or think that going back to standing means going back to concrete terraces and Hillsborough disasters (not actually caused by the terracing).

Which is impressive given there are several million supporters of the sport out there, many of who would either like to stand, or think it's reasonable for those who want to, to do so in safe and designated areas and most of whom are eligible to vote.