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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by Rex » 29 Jan 2009 23:45

Or just get a multi card reader and plug it in.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by Deathy » 29 Jan 2009 23:47

rabidbee I've been told that the club are quite hard on cameras. However, I suspect that they're partly concerned about video - SLRs, of course, mostly don't take video. I've taken my camera to plenty of away games without problem, and I've used my camera a few times at home. Frankly, unless you're sat near the front or you have very expensive lenses, you're unlikely to get any shots that could be sold.

If you're using a compact, SO9, you'll be fine. If you're worried, carry it on your person not in a bag, I suppose, as you're less likely to be searched.

Oh, and Jay, you're pictures are frankly attrocious!


On a bog standard 3 megapixel? Behave.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by rabidbee » 30 Jan 2009 00:23

My point being that photos on a bog standard 3mp camera are attrocious, which is why some might prefer to use better.

To answer the question, Handsome Man has used his Canon G10 (a compact) at games, and had good results.

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by Deathy » 30 Jan 2009 00:30

rabidbee My point being that photos on a bog standard 3mp camera are attrocious, which is why some might prefer to use better.

To answer the question, Handsome Man has used his Canon G10 (a compact) at games, and had good results.


I don't doubt that. I mearly meant that you do not need to take a whacking great camera to football to get reasonable photos.
Especially when a lot of cam phones are heading towards 10 megapixels, including a nice looker from LG that isn't far off.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by Rex » 30 Jan 2009 00:34

Mobile phone cameras are still not subtle enough and either burn out in the glare of the sun, cannot adjust to action shots or blurr in low level lighting. There is still less control over the image and the camera optics used are low grade, cannot control focal length etc.

Carl Zeiss lens excluded.


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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by rabidbee » 30 Jan 2009 00:34

Deathy, you _do_ need to take a decent camera if you want to take decent photos. A high megapixel count does not equate to high qulaity photos - in fact, 10mp on a camera phone's sensor will produce such noisy photos that I suspect they will be worse than a 6mp camera. You're still dealing with a tiny, plastic lens - the principle factor in picture quality. Look at how badly your camera has coped with the contrast between the sunshine and the shadow - you can't even see who is running into shot behind the ref, and half off Seol has burned out. Why? Crap sensor.

You took "some" pictures at that game, not decent pictures. Worse pictures, in fact, than if you'd bought a chepo disposable camera off a till at Tesco's.

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by The 17 Bus » 30 Jan 2009 08:22

Greed, they suit the purpose but are not good.

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by meeky_no9 » 30 Jan 2009 09:19

Got this picture taken from the liverpool game in our 1st prem season.


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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by gh7901 » 30 Jan 2009 09:22

Yeah they are dreadful pictures. Nothing wrong with them for a phone camera, Ive got similar ones of games a few years back, but they are not good pictures.
The one phone Ive had (and still have it now) that actually takes half decent pictures is my SE K800i - dont know if its a slightly better lens or what, but its good. Still way, way off what I'd expect from a proper 3 megapixel camera though

Makes me laugh when people boast about having a 5/7/8mp camera on their phone, because the images are still crap


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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by Winchester Royal » 30 Jan 2009 15:03

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S09Royal Why aren't we allowed to take SLR Camera's into the ground to take photos?


Because people who own SLR cameras are almost always professional photographers who will later sell or publish their images.


Bullshit Gary.

It's because we might hit somebody with it, and that is from the mouth of the club.

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by Winchester Royal » 30 Jan 2009 15:06

royalexile You can take photos openly prior to the game, in the intermission and at the end. The FA allegedly have ownership and broadcasting rights over any images taken during a game. Taking a camera phone into a game is not something that can be challenged. The only time i took an SLR into a game openly was at QPR in 2005. At home games i have seen stewards threaten to confiscate cameras or evict the people concerned. A 5Meg mobile is sufficient to take general shots but not the exciting action shots that some could crave.


Not true. The ownership of the image lies with the photographer, although he is not allowed to distribute without accreditation.

I've only taken an SLR to a match once, and that was Derby away last season.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by rabidbee » 30 Jan 2009 15:14

I think the point is that they have the exclusive right to the making of images, which they try to guard jealously. Taking pictures at matches is, I suppose, copyright theft.

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by rabidbee » 30 Jan 2009 15:16

Winchester Royal It's because we might hit somebody with it, and that is from the mouth of the club.


Are they insane? Why would we spend a grand or more on a delicate piece of kit, to use it as a weapon? I'd rather headbutt a rhino!


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by Winchester Royal » 30 Jan 2009 15:23

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Winchester Royal It's because we might hit somebody with it, and that is from the mouth of the club.


Are they insane? Why would we spend a grand or more on a delicate piece of kit, to use it as a weapon? I'd rather headbutt a rhino!


Yes, they actually are, it's possibly the most ridiculous thing that I've ever been told by the club. Apart from perhaps "Hillsborough happened because people were standing up", but that's a whole different kettle of fish.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by eddiegrundy » 30 Jan 2009 18:51

It depends what sort of quality you want. The top end digital cameras are approaching the performance of an SLR. I got myself a Panasonuc TZ5 for Christmas as it had a decent zoom on it which I hoped would enable me to take pictures of distant action. I'm still getting to grips with it but I quite like it so far. The attached is not bad. Hope the RHS shows up but it may be truncated. It takes good videon clips too.



EDIT - Can't get the slidey bars going so you can see the RHS. Right click on the photo and save it to a temp file so you can see it all.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by Arnie_Pie » 30 Jan 2009 19:45

It is all about the zoom. This little number has 10x and for a pocket camera would do the business -

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/916937/ ... black.html

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by eddiegrundy » 30 Jan 2009 20:49

Arnie_Pie It is all about the zoom. This little number has 10x and for a pocket camera would do the business -

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/916937/ ... black.html


That's the TZ4. I got a TZ5 as it is the latest model and has additional features such as the larger viewing screen on the back of the camera. The TZ4 is a decent camera for the price though and the TZ5 costs a fair bit more. I also bought a fast 8 Gb memory card whiich was about £30. I read somewhere that a slow card may be too slow to record video images properly due to speed issues. You need to buy a memory card of some description as the built in memory supplied is pitiful, as with all digital cameras.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by rabidbee » 31 Jan 2009 00:21

Having the name "Leica" on the lens certainly has some significance.

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by The 17 Bus » 31 Jan 2009 06:05

rabidbee
Winchester Royal It's because we might hit somebody with it, and that is from the mouth of the club.


Are they insane? Why would we spend a grand or more on a delicate piece of kit, to use it as a weapon? I'd rather headbutt a rhino!


I would like a stab at that as well.

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Re: Home Games - Photo's

by SLAMMED » 31 Jan 2009 10:08

eddiegrundy EDIT - Can't get the slidey bars going so you can see the RHS. Right click on the photo and save it to a temp file so you can see it all.


Thank the lord for side scrollers on laptops 8)

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