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by royalsteve » 19 Oct 2006 23:41

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ArfnipIsARoyal I seem to recall in the STAR thread that their will be more retail points within them. Hopefully more staff will be hired and not just split up more.

Great, a wider selection of roll-over hotdogs :?


I've only ever had one hot dog at the ground. I was rather ill afterwards. Never ever again.

The burgers from the vans are ok though.


Contact Soel about the dog

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by royalsteve » 19 Oct 2006 23:51

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Schards#2 What evidence is there that Reading could fill 32,000 seats each week?

This season is our first ever in the top flight, it's a huge novelty AND we are doing well. Yet tickets for every game have gone on to general sale and there is no huge queue for season tickets.

Even if we stay up I would expect less demand next year as it won't be the unique experience it is now.

The current stadium is just the right size, maybe we could cope with about 4,000 more but largely to accomodate more away fans.


Sorry, but this is amazingly shortsighted.

For starters, 1000 fans didn't get the season tickets they wanted this term and, surely, any new fans we attract from being in the Prem will have to wait for tickets to go to general sale before they can buy them. This also applies to any neutral football fans unless they have been regular visitors in the past and, believe me, there are plenty who would like to get their fix of top flight footy at the Madstad if we had the seats to sell.

Am I alone in not being able to bring friends this season because every match is sold out? How long ago was it when fans really thought that we wouldn't sell 24k every week even in the Prem :?

As one of those who complained about the increase in tickets prices, surely increasing capacity, and reducing pressure on demand, will only help keep prices where they are, or to drop following relegation.

I find it so depressing to see long term fans who can't break out of the "Little Reading" mentality and realise that much of southern England has now become our catchment area and that a successful team would have every chance of selling out our proposed new capacity on a regular basis.

Not only that, if we want a successful team that is good enough to become a permanent fixture in the top flight, it is vital that we have this increased revenue stream avaliable.

Can you see our existing fan base stumping up the necessary from 20k home seats given how many whinged like babies after this season's hike :roll:

Worst case scenario; We expand and get relegated. The alternative; Do nothing and fight a war of attrition in a stadium that isn't big enough to support our ambitions.

I'll have £50 with you now, Shards, that we'll average 30K plus in our first 3 seasons post expansion, provided that we avoid relegation.


Look at our first season in the stadium....it seemed too big, with Elm Park crowds the year before averaging 7000.....laughable now but the catchment is huge......lots of money in this area......biggest town in England....and increasing, esp if approval is given to Prudential for the approx 7500 new homes near the stadium/green park

Also, Mr Mad wants to sell - sellling with increasing revenues year on year will mean he can sell for more.

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by M4 Junction 11 » 20 Oct 2006 00:04

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ArfnipIsARoyal I seem to recall in the STAR thread that their will be more retail points within them. Hopefully more staff will be hired and not just split up more.

Great, a wider selection of roll-over hotdogs :?


I've only ever had one hot dog at the ground. I was rather ill afterwards. Never ever again.

The burgers from the vans are ok though.

I usually just go for the chips outside. Hope this is an opportunity to give more selection (and generally to improve the quality) inside.

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by alad » 20 Oct 2006 01:20

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Schards#2 What evidence is there that Reading could fill 32,000 seats each week?

This season is our first ever in the top flight, it's a huge novelty AND we are doing well. Yet tickets for every game have gone on to general sale and there is no huge queue for season tickets.

Even if we stay up I would expect less demand next year as it won't be the unique experience it is now.

The current stadium is just the right size, maybe we could cope with about 4,000 more but largely to accomodate more away fans.


Sorry, but this is amazingly shortsighted.

For starters, 1000 fans didn't get the season tickets they wanted this term and, surely, any new fans we attract from being in the Prem will have to wait for tickets to go to general sale before they can buy them. This also applies to any neutral football fans unless they have been regular visitors in the past and, believe me, there are plenty who would like to get their fix of top flight footy at the Madstad if we had the seats to sell.

Am I alone in not being able to bring friends this season because every match is sold out? How long ago was it when fans really thought that we wouldn't sell 24k every week even in the Prem :?

As one of those who complained about the increase in tickets prices, surely increasing capacity, and reducing pressure on demand, will only help keep prices where they are, or to drop following relegation.

I find it so depressing to see long term fans who can't break out of the "Little Reading" mentality and realise that much of southern England has now become our catchment area and that a successful team would have every chance of selling out our proposed new capacity on a regular basis.

Not only that, if we want a successful team that is good enough to become a permanent fixture in the top flight, it is vital that we have this increased revenue stream avaliable.

Can you see our existing fan base stumping up the necessary from 20k home seats given how many whinged like babies after this season's hike :roll:

Worst case scenario; We expand and get relegated. The alternative; Do nothing and fight a war of attrition in a stadium that isn't big enough to support our ambitions.

I'll have £50 with you now, Shards, that we'll average 30K plus in our first 3 seasons post expansion, provided that we avoid relegation.


Look at our first season in the stadium....it seemed too big, with Elm Park crowds the year before averaging 7000.....laughable now but the catchment is huge......lots of money in this area......biggest town in England....and increasing, esp if approval is given to Prudential for the approx 7500 new homes near the stadium/green park

Also, Mr Mad wants to sell - sellling with increasing revenues year on year will mean he can sell for more.


That's rubbish. The average for 97-98 was almost 10,000.

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by Sharpy » 20 Oct 2006 09:24

just noticed on OS plans that the corners arent filled in :shock:


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by TFF » 20 Oct 2006 09:25

Sharpy just noticed on OS plans that the corners arent filled in :shock:


Yes, the corners will be removed to allow better access for the emergency services.

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by SWLR » 20 Oct 2006 09:28

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Sharpy just noticed on OS plans that the corners arent filled in :shock:


Yes, the corners will be removed to allow better access for the emergency services.


And to allow Moroninho's head in.

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by Sharpy » 20 Oct 2006 09:32

thats oxf*rd, there is enough room as it is ffs

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by TFF » 20 Oct 2006 09:36

Sharpy thats oxf*rd, there is enough room as it is ffs


Actually the real reason is that removing the corner seats will allow more air and light to reach the playing surface, which has been suffering since we started the ground share.

I understand that as a contribution to the development costs, London Irish will be paying for the removal of the offending seats.


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by Platypuss » 20 Oct 2006 09:38

Sharpy just noticed on OS plans that the corners arent filled in :shock:


Someone sold them to a woman in Nigeria.

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by M4 Junction 11 » 24 Oct 2006 10:11

There are some good ideas in this thread and on the what would you like to see in the new concourses? thread. Has anyone sent any feedback to the club? There are also some comments on the BBC Berkshire website.

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by STAR Liaison » 24 Oct 2006 12:03

M4 Junction 11 There are some good ideas in this thread and on the what would you like to see in the new concourses? thread. Has anyone sent any feedback to the club? There are also some comments on the BBC Berkshire website.


I will be filling in the questionnaire this week, but EVERYONE with an opinion should. This is a real opportunity to influence the design so if you do not bother to contact the club with your ideas you have no right to complain at the final design if it does not suit you.

The club really does want responses so get writing

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by Rhys The Royal » 24 Oct 2006 12:06

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M4 Junction 11 There are some good ideas in this thread and on the what would you like to see in the new concourses? thread. Has anyone sent any feedback to the club? There are also some comments on the BBC Berkshire website.


I will be filling in the questionnaire this week, but EVERYONE with an opinion should. This is a real opportunity to influence the design so if you do not bother to contact the club with your ideas you have no right to complain at the final design if it does not suit you.

The club really does want responses so get writing


I thought the consultation period finished on Friday?


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by M4 Junction 11 » 24 Oct 2006 12:33

Anyone submitting a formal questionnaire feel free to use my ideas. Did I mention a new adult comfort area where you could go to 'relax' at half time.

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by M4 Junction 11 » 31 Oct 2006 17:18

I was just reading the Scoping Report. Though a bit dull thought I would still share it with you :)
another plan and some correspondence.

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by Reading Abbey » 04 Nov 2006 17:23

M4 Junction 11 I was just reading the Scoping Report. Though a bit dull thought I would still share it with you :)
another plan and some correspondence.


Links don't work. :?

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by M4 Junction 11 » 04 Nov 2006 17:34

I think it's because the whole of the planning section of the Reading Borough Council website is down.

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by SWLR » 30 Nov 2006 16:52

This has all gone very quiet. What is the next stage (could trawl through the OS, but can't be bothered!).

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by Barry the bird boggler » 30 Nov 2006 16:58

Think we're now just waiting for approval from RBC after that I guess contracts can be drawn up with the builders and start/end dates and the costs and number of seats can be finalised.

Presumably RBC are due to review this shortly, anyone know when?

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by Coppelled Streets » 31 Dec 2006 16:17

Thought we may have heard a little more by now. We must be close to getting the go ahead for this I would have thought.
Having a little flick through the plans again, the club seem to be undecided whether to build on the North and South first or the East Stand and were asking fans what they preferred.
What did you (if at all) suggest?

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