What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Ups and Downs » 23 Oct 2012 13:58

We didn't sign halford until January. Emerse Fae was in the second year in the prem.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Ups and Downs » 23 Oct 2012 14:01

Bikey was after a loan as well. So hat just leave seol and the mighty sodje.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by melonhead » 23 Oct 2012 14:33

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Ideal I seem to remember us spending about £5M..

And this year, with the super rich AZ, we spent.. oh.. £5M.

Oh dear! That's quite a conundrum.


when we went up, in 06/07 season, the entire team cost around 6 million
so im not sure how youve come up with that figure, apart from by making it up


No, I did not make it up. However it turns out I was wrong, we spent MUCH MORE the last time we went up:

Emerse Fae £2.5M
Greg Halford £2.25M
Seol Ki-Hyeon £1.5M
Andre Bikey £1M
Sam Sodje £350K
Total £7.6M

This year we spent only £5M on transfer fees.
It turns out that last time WE SPENT 52% MORE on transfer fees.

So all you airheads who complained about JM's perceived lack of ambition can eat it, and all you buffoons who are now saying that "AZ is full of ambition" (mostly the same people) can STICK IT where the sun don't shine.

AZ/TSI gravy train? I DON'T THINK SO.


thats bollox


we bought seol, and sodje

seols 1.5 million was after add ons, which were probably never paid.more like 1 million, tops
total cost of squad that won the championship was less that 5 million
therefore my 6 million of the entire squad is correct.

comparing it to what we spent in january(or the next summer for fae :| ) makes no sense whatsoever, since we might spend 50 million this coming window, we have no idea

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Extended-Phenotype » 23 Oct 2012 15:32

Ouch. Ideal is having a threadmare, here.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Greatwesternline » 23 Oct 2012 16:42

I just remembered Duberry and De la Cruz.

A couple of old timers might be what we need. some experienced heads. They may not have played much but offered more advice and support than i'd imagine Simon Church


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by SCIAG » 23 Oct 2012 16:54

Greatwesternline I just remembered Duberry and De la Cruz.

A couple of old timers might be what we need. some experienced heads. They may not have played much but offered more advice and support than i'd imagine Simon Church

De La Cruz was a free iirc, and Duberry was in January.

Our signings in the first window:
Seol £1.5m
Sodje £350k
De La Cruz free
Bikey loan
Mate loan

January:
Duberry £800k (!- thought it was much less)
Halford £2.5m
Bennett £250k
Some youngsters (Andersen, Bozanic, others?)

Second summer:
Cissé £350k
Faé £2.5m
Bikey £1m
Rosenior p/ex

Second January:
Matejovsky £1.1m
Kébé £400k

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by robinsfriday » 23 Oct 2012 16:55

Greatwesternline I just remembered Duberry and De la Cruz.

A couple of old timers might be what we need. some experienced heads. They may not have played much but offered more advice and support than i'd imagine Simon Church


Could you be any more cliche? Get out.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by windermere_royal » 23 Oct 2012 17:25

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Greatwesternline I just remembered Duberry and De la Cruz.

A couple of old timers might be what we need. some experienced heads. They may not have played much but offered more advice and support than i'd imagine Simon Church

De La Cruz was a free iirc, and Duberry was in January.

Our signings in the first window:
Seol £1.5m
Sodje £350k
De La Cruz free
Bikey loan
Mate loan

January:
Duberry £800k (!- thought it was much less)
Halford £2.5m
Bennett £250k
Some youngsters (Andersen, Bozanic, others?)

Second summer:
Cissé £350k
Faé £2.5m
Bikey £1m
Rosenior p/ex

Second January:
Matejovsky £1.1m
Kébé £400k


christ didn`t we splash the cash

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by 10539.4 Miles Away » 23 Oct 2012 17:38

Caskeys Lovechild We spent at least £10m in transfer and signing on fees in the close season.

We cannot spend any more until January.

You are a fcuking moron.


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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by leon » 23 Oct 2012 17:54

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I seem to remember us spending about £5M..

And this year, with the super rich AZ, we spent.. oh.. £5M.

Oh dear! That's quite a conundrum.


when we went up, in 06/07 season, the entire team cost around 6 million
so im not sure how youve come up with that figure, apart from by making it up


No, I did not make it up. However it turns out I was wrong, we spent MUCH MORE the last time we went up:

Emerse Fae £2.5M
Greg Halford £2.25M
Seol Ki-Hyeon £1.5M
Andre Bikey £1M
Sam Sodje £350K
Total £7.6M

This year we spent only £5M on transfer fees.
It turns out that last time WE SPENT 52% MORE on transfer fees.

So all you airheads who complained about JM's perceived lack of ambition can eat it, and all you buffoons who are now saying that "AZ is full of ambition" (mostly the same people) can STICK IT where the sun don't shine.

AZ/TSI gravy train? I DON'T THINK SO.


Thankfully your views on race hate are built on firmer foundations.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by sandman » 23 Oct 2012 17:58

Ideal
No, I did not make it up. However it turns out I was wrong, we spent MUCH MORE the last time we went up:

Emerse Fae £2.5M
Greg Halford £2.25M
Seol Ki-Hyeon £1.5M
Andre Bikey £1M
Sam Sodje £350K
Total £7.6M

This year we spent only £5M on transfer fees.
It turns out that last time WE SPENT 52% MORE on transfer fees.

So all you airheads who complained about JM's perceived lack of ambition can eat it, and all you buffoons who are now saying that "AZ is full of ambition" (mostly the same people) can STICK IT where the sun don't shine.

AZ/TSI gravy train? I DON'T THINK SO.



Better to be an airhead than to have shit for brains tbf.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Royal Lady » 23 Oct 2012 19:05

You do all remember that TSI LOANED RFC the money for Roberts ? The club are paying them back, iirc. So they aren't GIVING us money out of the goodness of their hearts or anything.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by SPARTA » 23 Oct 2012 19:09

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Sparta wrote: What did SJM actually do?


Only been a Reading fan for a short time Sparta making comments like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No. You just took that the wrong way. The OP asks what AZ does. Who knows?! What does SJM do? (not in a 'what did he achieve' sense). The OP ignores or doesn't understand what SJM did/does as a Chairman. Just because you don't hear from the owner on a daily or weekly basis doesn't mean he's not doing anything for us behind the scenes. Just because Anton doesn't get in front of a camera at every opportunity doesn't mean he's not interested. To simplify it, he is the money, and the ideas. SJM is the Chairman and does whatever a Chairman does, but perhaps slightly less so, as he lends his experience to the young new owner who will ultimately take on the role of Chairman, or perhaps bring one in later, if he can't dedicate enough time to the role.

People on here are laughing at posters claiming we have spent £10m on bringing players in this summer. Why? It's easily that when you take into consideration transfer fees (£5m) and then the signing on fees and agent fees. Pogrebnyak was rumoured to have received around £2-3m. Even if it was a mere £1.5m, there's still free transfers (whom usually get a bigger than average signing on fee) in Danny Guthrie, Garath McCleary and Nicky Shorey. That would be another £1.5m easily. Then consider agents fees.

It all adds up. SJM would never have provided us with that money for those players. Guthrie and Pogrebnyak certainly wouldn't be here.

People shouldn't be worried about what AZ does. They should only be concerned that he has the clubs best interests at heart, and doesn't lumber us with millions of debt through bringing in the Pogrebnyak's and Danny Guthrie's, if it's not actually his money but the clubs/debt.

Also worth bearing in mind that we missed out on a deadline day deal for Wilfred Zaha, who we were looking at spending around £4m on, which clearly wasn't enough. But that money is still there for January, and possibly more if both manager (whoever that may be come Jan) and owner feel we need more than a couple of better quality players, and hopefully move some of the Championship standard players on while they carry a reasonable value, or their contract runs out next summer (Church).

Royal Lady You do all remember that TSI LOANED RFC the money for Roberts ? The club are paying them back, iirc. So they aren't GIVING us money out of the goodness of their hearts or anything.


John Madejski loaned us money many times over, and we were (possibly still are) paying him back each year. In fact it was revealed some or all of those loans were interest based, whereas we thought they were interest free. There is nothing abnormal about an owner loaning money to a club and wanting it back. Roman Abramovich has loaned his money to the club and expects a % of it back as well. Very few clubs are owned by a sugar daddy - Man City appear to be the only Premier League club with that set-up currently.


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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Ups and Downs » 23 Oct 2012 19:16

Royal Lady You do all remember that TSI LOANED RFC the money for Roberts ? The club are paying them back, iirc. So they aren't GIVING us money out of the goodness of their hearts or anything.


I'm not sure t was a simple as that. It would have been repaid over a number of years if the takeover hadn't been successful.

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by SPARTA » 23 Oct 2012 19:18

Ideal No, I did not make it up. However it turns out I was wrong, we spent MUCH MORE the last time we went up: (WTF?)

Emerse Fae £2.5M
Greg Halford £2.25M
Seol Ki-Hyeon £1.5M
Andre Bikey £1M
Sam Sodje £350K
Total £7.6M


Erm, that's cooking the books a little isn't it?

First Premiership season:

Seol Ki-Hyeon £1.5M
Sam Sodje £350K
Michael Duberry £800k

More?

Second Premiership season:

Emerse Fae £2.5M
Greg Halford £2.25M
Andre Bikey £1M
Liam Rosenior (Swap deal)

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Divvy » 23 Oct 2012 20:11

I think Ideal has been made to look a tad silly here, once again. Good work.

Where's the money gone, he cries? :roll:

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by oldebiscuit » 23 Oct 2012 20:24

Archie's penalty I'd like to know. He doesn't say anything publicly, he hardly spends any money on the team. I believe it's time we started to ask the question if this takeover was actually good for the club or not. I miss Sir John!


Eeerrr! What exactly have the Romans done for us?

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by Platypuss » 24 Oct 2012 11:41

IdeaLOL

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by winchester_royal » 24 Oct 2012 12:27

Still, at least he's been proven right about Brendan Rodgers

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Re: What does Anton Zingarevich actually DO?

by melonhead » 26 Oct 2012 11:44

Royal Lady You do all remember that TSI LOANED RFC the money for Roberts ? The club are paying them back, iirc. So they aren't GIVING us money out of the goodness of their hearts or anything.



why the oxf*rd would they?


if you could point me towards any businessmen who dont mind handing out milions of pounds, wiithout wanting it back, that would be great, i seriously need to speak with them

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