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by Gordons Cumming » 09 Jan 2007 09:15

premiership_bound Well that didn't last long. Car park withdrawn http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Parking/0,,10306,00.html



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by TFF » 09 Jan 2007 09:58

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That Friday Feeling I should have known it. The RFC I know and LOLove :roll:

So you are blaming RFC then for something beyond their control?


I'm not blaming them for us not being allowed to park there.

You would think though, that having failed with previous attempts to negotiate parking on Green Park that RFC would have made sure that all parties concerned (and let's assume this is the Pru that have stepped in) were consulted and in agreement before the decision was taken to publicise and then actually sell parking tickets.

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by Wycombe Royal » 09 Jan 2007 10:30

That Friday Feeling
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That Friday Feeling I should have known it. The RFC I know and LOLove :roll:

So you are blaming RFC then for something beyond their control?


I'm not blaming them for us not being allowed to park there.

You would think though, that having failed with previous attempts to negotiate parking on Green Park that RFC would have made sure that all parties concerned (and let's assume this is the Pru that have stepped in) were consulted and in agreement before the decision was taken to publicise and then actually sell parking tickets.

And how do you know RFC hadn't done that? You just assume they hadn't.

Decisions do get reversed you know even when assurances have been previously given.

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by Warfield Royal » 09 Jan 2007 12:36

I don't think that the advance take up by season ticket holders would have been as much as 500. Most car drivers start driving and only worry about parking when they arrive.

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by Gordons Cumming » 09 Jan 2007 12:39

Warfield Royal I don't think that the advance take up by season ticket holders would have been as much as 500. Most car drivers start driving and only worry about parking when they arrive.


Only idiot car drivers.


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by RoyalBlue » 09 Jan 2007 13:11

The withdrawal of this car parking facility, presumably after the late intervention of someone like Prudential is a damn disgrace.

It's time that the club got the likes of Reading Borough Council and Martin Salter MP to pressurise Green Park and Prudential into helping out with the parking problems -it's amazing how much offering assistance (or not) with planning applications can influence organisations like that!

Thereagain I wouldn't put it past Reading Borough Council to be the very people who have scuppered the car parking plans! They never really seem to have gone out of their way to help and at times have appeared very anti football parking.

Maybe Mr Madejski should make it clear that there is no more money for art galleries, museums, academies etc. until the council have delivered on the parking issues!

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by Whore Jackie » 09 Jan 2007 13:27

RoyalBlue The withdrawal of this car parking facility, presumably after the late intervention of someone like Prudential is a damn disgrace.

It's time that the club got the likes of Reading Borough Council and Martin Salter MP to pressurise Green Park and Prudential into helping out with the parking problems -it's amazing how much offering assistance (or not) with planning applications can influence organisations like that!

Thereagain I wouldn't put it past Reading Borough Council to be the very people who have scuppered the car parking plans! They never really seem to have gone out of their way to help and at times have appeared very anti football parking.

Maybe Mr Madejski should make it clear that there is no more money for art galleries, museums, academies etc. until the council have delivered on the parking issues!


I'm pretty sure Reading Borough Council take all the revenue from the Stadium Car Park, so it's a win-win situation if their car park is full and they don't have to worry about the logistics of 500 more cars trying to get on the A33 Relief Road post-match.

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by premiership_bound » 09 Jan 2007 13:30

Why would the council get the revenue from the stadium owned car park. They don't even get the revenue from their own car parks.

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by Top Flight » 09 Jan 2007 13:38

A monorail connecting Reading town centre to the Mad Stad is the answer. That is by far the best solution. Similar to the Alton Towers monorail system.

Las Vegas has a monorail system:

http://www.lvmonorail.com/

Why can't Reading?
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by Wycombe Royal » 09 Jan 2007 13:39

Top Flight A monorail connecting Reading town centre to the Mad Stad is the answer. That is by far the best solution. Similar to the Alton Towers monorail system.

Are you going to pay for it?

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by RoyalBlue » 09 Jan 2007 13:41

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Top Flight A monorail connecting Reading town centre to the Mad Stad is the answer. That is by far the best solution. Similar to the Alton Towers monorail system.

Are you going to pay for it?


No, I'm paying for the London Olympics! :wink:

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by Top Flight » 09 Jan 2007 13:46

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Top Flight A monorail connecting Reading town centre to the Mad Stad is the answer. That is by far the best solution. Similar to the Alton Towers monorail system.

Are you going to pay for it?


No, you can pay for it through your council tax!

I live in London, so I shouldn't have to pay for it. The cost can be recouped through fairs as well.

RFC can pay some and also the companies in Green Park and in the area should pay as well as it helps their staff get to work each day. There can be a station at the Mad Stad, a station at Green Park, a station at Rose Kiln Lane, a station by the Oracle and then a station at the Train station!

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by Top Flight » 09 Jan 2007 13:50

http://www.freewaymonorail.org/

Seattle is planning to have a monorail as well.........

Major US Cities are going down the monorail route.

Why can't Reading, home to the UK's Silicon Valley be a progressive, forward thinking town/city and build a monorail system. Reading needs one more than most places with the fastest growing traffic in Europe and a serious need to connect the various districts that make up Reading!

Advantages of Monorail:



Monorail technology is:

most flexible in its ability to adapt to existing infrastructure and topography

the least disruptive in its construction

Lightweight

Less Costly to build, and to operate and maintain

Quieter and non-polluting

Minimal in its material and infrastructure needs

Provides very frequent service

Rapid and Reliable
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by premiership_bound » 09 Jan 2007 13:50

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Top Flight A monorail connecting Reading town centre to the Mad Stad is the answer. That is by far the best solution. Similar to the Alton Towers monorail system.

Are you going to pay for it?


No, you can pay for it through your council tax!

I live in London, so I shouldn't have to pay for it. The cost can be recouped through fairs as well.

RFC can pay some and also the companies in Green Park and in the area should pay as well as it helps their staff get to work each day. There can be a station at the Mad Stad, a station at Green Park, a station at Rose Kiln Lane, a station by the Oracle and then a station at the Train station!


That will be a lot of goes on the dodgems and merry-go-rounds to pay for a monrail. Mind you I suppose that's how Alton Towers paid for it :wink:

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by Top Flight » 09 Jan 2007 13:54

Costs

Monorail systems can require lower capital costs to build and operate than light-rail systems. Because this monorail system would not involve tunneling, it will cost substantially less than a rail system based on subways.

Monorail systems typically have lower operation-and-maintenance costs than light-rail systems, because they can be fully-automated, which requires significantly less operating costs. "Monorail is about half to one-third [the O&M cost] of LRT," according to Michael Crawford, P.E. of Grimail Crawford, Inc., Tampa, Florida.

At-grade light rail does not allow for the possibility of automation. The private sector almost always chooses to builds monorail systems rather than light rail, since they are cheaper to construct and operate, less intrusive on their property and customers, and provides a more enjoyable experience for its patrons.

In addition, monorail systems represent one of the only transit systems that have operated at a profit, including both the Tokyo and Seattle monorails. (Is there a bus or light-rail system that operates at a profit anywhere in the world? Please pass on word if you know of any.) In fact, all of Japan’s monorails are said to run at a profit. And the Seattle monorail paid for itself within 2 years - the cost to the city was zero and, in fact, the monorail brings the city about $800,000 in tax revenue every year and a profit for RailSafe of about $500,000.

Copied and pasted from internet.........

I reckon its a good idea! It would be perfect for Reading. There is no better solution for Reading than a monorail in my worthless, uncredible opinion!

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by RoyalBlue » 09 Jan 2007 14:06

Top Flight Costs

Monorail systems can require lower capital costs to build and operate than light-rail systems. Because this monorail system would not involve tunneling, it will cost substantially less than a rail system based on subways.

Monorail systems typically have lower operation-and-maintenance costs than light-rail systems, because they can be fully-automated, which requires significantly less operating costs. "Monorail is about half to one-third [the O&M cost] of LRT," according to Michael Crawford, P.E. of Grimail Crawford, Inc., Tampa, Florida.

At-grade light rail does not allow for the possibility of automation. The private sector almost always chooses to builds monorail systems rather than light rail, since they are cheaper to construct and operate, less intrusive on their property and customers, and provides a more enjoyable experience for its patrons.

In addition, monorail systems represent one of the only transit systems that have operated at a profit, including both the Tokyo and Seattle monorails. (Is there a bus or light-rail system that operates at a profit anywhere in the world? Please pass on word if you know of any.) In fact, all of Japan’s monorails are said to run at a profit. And the Seattle monorail paid for itself within 2 years - the cost to the city was zero and, in fact, the monorail brings the city about $800,000 in tax revenue every year and a profit for RailSafe of about $500,000.

Copied and pasted from internet.........

I reckon its a good idea! It would be perfect for Reading. There is no better solution for Reading than a monorail in my worthless, uncredible opinion!


For further details email topflight@monorail.com.my :wink:

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by Top Flight » 09 Jan 2007 14:09

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Top Flight Costs

Monorail systems can require lower capital costs to build and operate than light-rail systems. Because this monorail system would not involve tunneling, it will cost substantially less than a rail system based on subways.

Monorail systems typically have lower operation-and-maintenance costs than light-rail systems, because they can be fully-automated, which requires significantly less operating costs. "Monorail is about half to one-third [the O&M cost] of LRT," according to Michael Crawford, P.E. of Grimail Crawford, Inc., Tampa, Florida.

At-grade light rail does not allow for the possibility of automation. The private sector almost always chooses to builds monorail systems rather than light rail, since they are cheaper to construct and operate, less intrusive on their property and customers, and provides a more enjoyable experience for its patrons.

In addition, monorail systems represent one of the only transit systems that have operated at a profit, including both the Tokyo and Seattle monorails. (Is there a bus or light-rail system that operates at a profit anywhere in the world? Please pass on word if you know of any.) In fact, all of Japan’s monorails are said to run at a profit. And the Seattle monorail paid for itself within 2 years - the cost to the city was zero and, in fact, the monorail brings the city about $800,000 in tax revenue every year and a profit for RailSafe of about $500,000.

Copied and pasted from internet.........

I reckon its a good idea! It would be perfect for Reading. There is no better solution for Reading than a monorail in my worthless, uncredible opinion!


For further details email topflight@monorail.com.my :wink:


Did you like my sales pitch?

Maybe I should get a job in the monorail manufacturing sector as an International Sales Manager.

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by TFF » 09 Jan 2007 14:27

Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine,
Bona fide,
Electrified,
Six-car
Monorail!
What'd I say?



Monorail!



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by Wycombe Royal » 09 Jan 2007 14:27

What exactly would a monorail be cheaper than?

Bus routes? I doubt it.

Building a new train station on an existing line? I doubt it.

I certainly would want to pay for it from my council tax as it isn't needed.

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by STAR Liaison » 09 Jan 2007 14:43

RoyalBlue It's time that the club got the likes of Reading Borough Council and Martin Salter MP to pressurise Green Park and Prudential into helping out with the parking problems -it's amazing how much offering assistance (or not) with planning applications can influence organisations like that!


I can assure you that this happened years ago and it still happening now but some organisations are able to withstand pressure it seems.

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