VAT

[Royal Lady]

The warehouse sale was all old stock that they wanted to get rid of rather than a desperate attempt to raise cash !

The idea that a voucher for STH to spend is a nice one and amy well pay for itself in terms of extra trade, but I don't think we're owed any VAT rebate at all any more than I'm owed it on the tank of petrol I bought last week but have only used half of.

There is the argument that ST holders should be refunded for the games which come under the 15% VAT rule. After all, the club had our money in advance - it's not really anything like the petrol analogy you've just given. Having said that though, I shan't be fretting over losing a fiver.

[Sun Tzu]

The warehouse sale was all old stock that they wanted to get rid of rather than a desperate attempt to raise cash !

The idea that a voucher for STH to spend is a nice one and amy well pay for itself in terms of extra trade, but I don't think we're owed any VAT rebate at all any more than I'm owed it on the tank of petrol I bought last week but have only used half of.

There is the argument that ST holders should be refunded for the games which come under the 15% VAT rule. After all, the club had our money in advance - it's not really anything like the petrol analogy you've just given. Having said that though, I shan't be fretting over losing a fiver.

I'm not sure there is an argument though. You don't buy a number of tickets to games, you buy one ticket that entitles you to go to all games during a season. It's entirely like the petrol analogy - the petrol station had my money in advance, I used some of the petrol during the 17.5% period and some is unused and will be used in the 15% period.

[Big Foot]

The warehouse sale was all old stock that they wanted to get rid of rather than a desperate attempt to raise cash !

The idea that a voucher for STH to spend is a nice one and amy well pay for itself in terms of extra trade, but I don't think we're owed any VAT rebate at all any more than I'm owed it on the tank of petrol I bought last week but have only used half of.

There is the argument that ST holders should be refunded for the games which come under the 15% VAT rule. After all, the club had our money in advance - it's not really anything like the petrol analogy you've just given. Having said that though, I shan't be fretting over losing a fiver.

14k STH x £5 = £80k

What a nice gesture it'd be for the club to refund this ahead of Xmas

It'd be worth itself in terms of positive marketing especially considering unrest over the treatment of fans by other areas of the club

[Royal Lady]

They won't send everyone a cheque for a fiver - they'd send a voucher to be used in the megastore and you'd end up spending more money.

[rabidbee]

Agreed that nobody is owed anything; however, _were_ a refund due, it would be from the government, not the club.

[Sun Tzu]

It would be a lot less than that given that we have a lot of junior STH.

Presumably next season we'll all be happy to pay an extra 2.5% to the club in January when the VAT rate rises mid season ?

[rabidbee]

Mind you, even though nothing is owed to anybody, the idea of a £5 voucher is a nice one. Make it valid on sales of, maybe, £30 or more and it might encourage people to go and spend money that they hadn't planned to spend, or tip the waverers to get what they wanted.

[Sun Tzu]

It would be just like the wadge of £5 off vouchers we all got from the club a few weeks back !

[Royal Lady]

It would be a lot less than that given that we have a lot of junior STH.

Presumably next season we'll all be happy to pay an extra 2.5% to the club in January when the VAT rate rises mid season ?

According to the radio this morning, a spokesman for RFC said that they would be passing on the VAT reductions on ticket sales and merchandise.

From this, I would assume that although ST holders have already paid for this year, this should mean that for next season, ST's will have 15% VAT on them, as the reduction runs for a year! Therefore, paying up front for a ST will definitely be the best option, if people can afford it!

Swings and roundabouts.

[The 17 Bus]

If I bought a ticket for the Coventry game today, before this 'change' they would have charged me £26.50 (or £29.50 in the Upper West).

Now it's £26 (or £29).

The proper prices should have been £25.93 and £28.87 (UW).

In the first case the club have conned me out of 7p, in the second, nearly DOUBLE that - 13p.

Have they put the prices up then??? am sure it is £22-50 now in the three proper stands!!

You missed the bit about 'today' - paying on the day is £4 more.

So before this chnage they would have charged you £27 or£30, right???

[Deadlock]

Seb is wrong. The official site is showing prices after the 50p has been deducted.

I'm very bored, so here are some dull figures.

Description  Original Price  Equivalent at 15%  Actual new price  Gain/loss
Lower west, east, north and south stands, pre-paid
Adult              £23             £22.51            £22.50         +£0.01
65 & over & 17-21  £17             £16.64            £16.50         +£0.14
16 & under         £12             £11.74            £11.50         +£0.24

Upper west, pre-paid
Adult              £26             £25.45            £25.50         -£0.05
65 & over & 17-21  £18             £17.61            £17.50         +£0.11
16 & under         £13             £12.72            £12.50         +£0.22

Lower west, east, north and south stands, matchday
Adult              £27             £26.42            £26.50         -£0.08
65 & over & 17-21  £21             £20.55            £20.50         +£0.05
16 & under         £16             £15.65            £15.50         +£0.15

Upper west. matchday
Adult              £30             £29.36            £29.50         -£0.14
65 & over & 17-21  £22             £21.53            £21.50         +£0.03
16 & under         £17             £16.63            £16.50         +£0.13

As can be easily seen, the only losers from the price cuts will be adults who buy in the Upper West, or adults who pay on the day. Everybody else gains. People who sit in the Upper West are all rich anyway, so won't miss the extra 5p, and people who pay on the day are mugs, who should be used to being taken to the cleaners at every opportunity.

[The 17 Bus]

I see where my mistake was - I thought the ticket prices were £22.50 - reducing to £22.

Whereas they're actually £23 reducing to £22.50

As it is I CAN'T BELIEVE the club are wasting such huge amounts over this. They're costing us some serious money per ticket that could better be spent on players. EVERYONE would have been happy to spend the extra 5 p or whatever to secure decent signings, but as it is, Madjeski has taken the easy option - and not even made it an issue by LOSING MONEY.

DOES HE EVEN KNOW HOW BUSINESS oxf*rd WORKS?

you are wrong again Seb, when you posted they were already reduced, so not reducing to at all.

As for how business works it is simple, he makes money, his staff work, simple.

[rabidbee]

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE DEFENDING THE CHAIRMAN HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN MARLBORO LIGHTS, CILLA BLACK AND HIS HAIRPIECE

get a proper job!

[RoyalBlue]

The warehouse sale was all old stock that they wanted to get rid of rather than a desperate attempt to raise cash !

The idea that a voucher for STH to spend is a nice one and amy well pay for itself in terms of extra trade, but I don't think we're owed any VAT rebate at all any more than I'm owed it on the tank of petrol I bought last week but have only used half of.

The duty on petrol went up to cover it tho

I think that you will find that the cheating barstewards actually increased fuel duty by more than the cut in VAT - thus still managing to fool some of the people all of the time.

BTW did any of the food and non alcoholic drinks prices get reduced at the Mad Stad?

[Forbury Lion]

The warehouse sale was all old stock that they wanted to get rid of rather than a desperate attempt to raise cash !

The idea that a voucher for STH to spend is a nice one and amy well pay for itself in terms of extra trade, but I don't think we're owed any VAT rebate at all any more than I'm owed it on the tank of petrol I bought last week but have only used half of.

There is the argument that ST holders should be refunded for the games which come under the 15% VAT rule. After all, the club had our money in advance - it's not really anything like the petrol analogy you've just given. Having said that though, I shan't be fretting over losing a fiver.

The club collect VAT on behalf of the government, The money has been collected and therefore passed on to the government on the quarterly VAT return.

[TheMaraudingDog]

Man United are refunded season ticket holders on the VAT.

[Sun Tzu]

Wouldn't a lot of Man Utd fans been able to claim the VAT back in the summer, on the grounds of being non UK residents ?