Sniffer Dogs at Madejski

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by One Beer is never enough. » 17 Jan 2008 14:41

Isnt this a bit of a non event really. 'Local' company try to gain some training experience for their equipment. Approach football club, get permission nto try on a big stage. Club let people know what is happening, therefore anyone with half an ounce knows not to bring it.

It would have been more outrageous if the club hadnt made this public knowledge, but would have served GIS/ ICTS (whoever they are - I cant find any trace of them on the web apart from publicity links) better.

End result keyboard warriers getting up in arms and complain and get the oppurtunity taken away from the local company. Local company and RFC who have tried to be open and honest receive bad publicity for supporting a community issue - community in the wider sense - not stereotyping football supporters.

FWIW, if it had been kept secret, I doubt very much that they would have had very much - if any - success anyway.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 17 Jan 2008 15:01

So you would have had no problem if one of these sniffer dogs had alerted it's handler to pull you over in your car or deny you entry into the ground while you are searched in public?

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by shadesrwrf » 17 Jan 2008 15:23

A victory for the pc brigade.

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by Barry the bird boggler » 17 Jan 2008 15:24

I can see the point, if nothing else it demonstrates to those behind the scenes the efficiency and likely problems that would arise from employing these measures at big events.

But as it would do no more in the public eye than tarnish football supporters even more with a wholly unecessary and undeserved label then its good thats its been dropped.

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by Wycombe Royal » 17 Jan 2008 15:24

Huntley & Palmer So you would have had no problem if one of these sniffer dogs had alerted it's handler to pull you over in your car or deny you entry into the ground while you are searched in public?

I wouldn't, because I know they wouldn't find anything. But if it means they do catch poeple who are carrying drugs then my minute or so of inconvenience is worth it.


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by Schards#2 » 17 Jan 2008 15:27

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Huntley & Palmer So you would have had no problem if one of these sniffer dogs had alerted it's handler to pull you over in your car or deny you entry into the ground while you are searched in public?

I wouldn't, because I know they wouldn't find anything. But if it means they do catch poeple who are carrying drugs then my minute or so of inconvenience is worth it.


As Skyline said, a significant proportion of bank notes in circulation have traces of cocaine on them.

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by Wycombe Royal » 17 Jan 2008 15:34

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Huntley & Palmer So you would have had no problem if one of these sniffer dogs had alerted it's handler to pull you over in your car or deny you entry into the ground while you are searched in public?

I wouldn't, because I know they wouldn't find anything. But if it means they do catch poeple who are carrying drugs then my minute or so of inconvenience is worth it.


As Skyline said, a significant proportion of bank notes in circulation have traces of cocaine on them.

That's alright then because I won't be carrying any. :wink:

Oh and I'm sure these people know that. They don't end up searching endless hordes of people at airports who will also be carrying bank notes do they?

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by shadesrwrf » 17 Jan 2008 15:40

Wycombe Royal They don't end up searching endless hordes of people at airports who will also be carrying bank notes do they?


Exactly. This country pisses me off. Oh no, we can't clamp down on illegal drug use because it might upset a few people with nothing better to do than complain about every little thing. No wonder the streets of Lower Earley are teeming with teenage crime.

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by One Beer is never enough. » 17 Jan 2008 15:45

Huntley & Palmer So you would have had no problem if one of these sniffer dogs had alerted it's handler to pull you over in your car or deny you entry into the ground while you are searched in public?


No problem whatsoever, and due to my near daily contact with various controlled substances, I would likely be sniffed out.

PS - dont think they would have used the dogs to smell the drugs in moving cars .... that is probably a step to far for your average springer..... :lol:


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by hilaryscott » 17 Jan 2008 15:55

Just to let you know - it was us at EP who broke the story and went to Jon at STAR for a comment. It was press released but no one else picked up on it.

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by shadesrwrf » 17 Jan 2008 15:57

hilaryscott Just to let you know - it was us at EP who broke the story and went to Jon at STAR for a comment. It was press released but no one else picked up on it.


That figures. I do hope the EP won't be running any stories complaining about Reading's drug problem for a while.

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by One Beer is never enough. » 17 Jan 2008 16:02

hilaryscott Just to let you know - it was us at EP who broke the story and went to Jon at STAR for a comment. It was press released but no one else picked up on it.


Well done, find an angle, get peoples backs up and prevent a crime reduction initiative. Lets hope some drug crazed football fan doesnt give you any grief in the near future. :roll:

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by Silver Fox » 17 Jan 2008 16:03

Huntley & Palmer So you would have had no problem if one of these sniffer dogs had alerted it's handler to pull you over in your car or deny you entry into the ground while you are searched in public?


I'd point it out that it must have been the ginger bloke I was with who the dogs had latched on to!


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by URZZZZZZZZ » 17 Jan 2008 16:53

In fairness, many a time I have walked round the stadium and smelt the herbs. Probs worth doing, family club and all that!!

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by RoyalBlue » 17 Jan 2008 18:08

hilaryscott Just to let you know - it was us at EP who broke the story and went to Jon at STAR for a comment. It was press released but no one else picked up on it.


So how did Manchester United Independent Supporters and The Mirror pick up on it? Did the EP ring them for a comment too?!!

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hilaryscott Just to let you know - it was us at EP who broke the story and went to Jon at STAR for a comment. It was press released but no one else picked up on it.


That figures. I do hope the EP won't be running any stories complaining about Reading's drug problem for a while.


Come off it - the company weren't doing it for the good of the community!!!

If they're that worried, why not walk their wonderful dogs somewhere where there is a real drug problem (certainly not your average football ground) to prove what a good scheme they have!!

In reality, this initiative would have made **ck all difference to drug problems in Reading and would only have served to further tarnish the image of football supporters, the overwhelming majority of whom are (despite what the politicians and media would try to have us believe) decent law-abiding citizens.

FWIW I'm damn glad that the PC brigade won this - next stop ID cards! And for those of us with long memories, RFC sucked up to the midget Moynihan by IIRC being the first club to introduce ID/Membership type cards too - that really helped stamp out football related violence as promised - not!

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Maybe the company has certain Directors that we are not aware of with a link to RFC.


If so, certain said Directors were bang out of order trying to impose such a scheme on their supporters/customers.

Football has enough bad publicity without it seeking to take on the adverse drug problem publicity that belongs far more with nightclubs, gigs, pubs etc.

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by shadesrwrf » 17 Jan 2008 18:25

:lol:

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by rg6royal » 17 Jan 2008 18:45

Didn't fancy an Alsation sniffing my boLOLLOLocks before the footie tbh :lol:

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by Armadillo Roadkill » 17 Jan 2008 20:03

I will welcome this to Madejski when the trial is simultaneous with ones at Royal Ascot and National Opera.

So illegal drugs and football problems in terms of specific drugs and their threat level:

Herbage: doesn't exaclty start a riot, does it?
Extasy: not noted for cuasing aggression
Smack: emaciated, sleepy, rubbish in a fight
Coke: act like a moster: to be discouraged.

Now then drugs that turn people proper nasty:

Crystal Meth, Crack: Use usually involves the kind of financial commitment not really compatible with tickets to Premiership matches.
Alcohol: Evil drug that fuels a conservative 70% of all violent crime, and is inextricably linked with violence at football. Widely available.

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by Blue and White Toucan » 17 Jan 2008 20:51

Extasy: not noted for cuasing aggression


Only dyslexia :lol:

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by BLUES & ROYAL » 17 Jan 2008 20:51

Do you know what old Mike Lewis used to call our fans a "Bunch of moaning minnies"
I know he was a plank and all that but he certainly read right through our whinging fan base and sadly I have a tendency to agree with him.

I have read through threads and threads (God knows why) of utter shite from the keyboards of so called fans of this club this week and now this.

What is the fffin problem with random drug searches?

IF YOU DON'T CARRY ANY YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!!

Stop your grizzling you Liberal wishy washy folk and get a life!

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