England - the future....

[Ascotexgunner]

No international side has ever won a World Cup with a foreign manager, and I think only Greece have done it in the Euros. Personally I think a Tuchel appointment will end in tears.

I think its would have ended in tears for all available English candidates too tbh.

I dunno, Eddie Howe for me would have been my pick. But we shall see.
For Wales I'd always want a Welshman.

[Snowflake Royal]

Well I'm certainly looking forward to him being the second coming as soon as he wins a couple of games and.l then being a shit foreign yes man after the first disappointing result.

[LUX]

Confession…. My first reaction was “ surely there must be a suitable Englishman available”……., but reading Farage/ the Express/ Mail’s offensive reaction I have performed a complete U turn. Not proud tbh.

[Snowflake Royal]

Confession…. My first reaction was “ surely there must be a suitable Englishman available”……., but reading Farage/ the Express/ Mail’s offensive reaction I have performed a complete U turn. Not proud tbh.

I think it's reasonable to want someone English to manage England, it is the national side after all. That, of course, doesn’t mean one needs to have a xenophobic reaction to someone of another nationality being appointed.

It's a sad sign of how far our nation has regressed, that something seen as completely normal and accepted pushing towards 20 years ago with the likes of Ericsson and Capello now prompts xenophobic diatribes. Why anyone would want to take England back to 70s attitudes is beyond me, but that's where we seem to be unfortunately. And heading ever on back to the stone age.

[Sutekh]

Confession…. My first reaction was “ surely there must be a suitable Englishman available”……., but reading Farage/ the Express/ Mail’s offensive reaction I have performed a complete U turn. Not proud tbh.

I think it's reasonable to want someone English to manage England, it is the national side after all. That, of course, doesn’t mean one needs to have a xenophobic reaction to someone of another nationality being appointed.

It's a sad sign of how far our nation has regressed, that something seen as completely normal and accepted pushing towards 20 years ago with the likes of Ericsson and Capello now prompts xenophobic diatribes. Why anyone would want to take England back to 70s attitudes is beyond me, but that's where we seem to be unfortunately. And heading ever on back to the stone age.

Doesn't help the "buy in" that Capello and Ericsson were overall failures though. Personally would prefer an English/British manager but there aren't any out there that are really up to the job (and haven't been for ages but then that's a real issue with leading PL clubs chasing £££££ and not investing in the time managers from these shores need to develop, there must be great talent out there somewhere, it wouldn't suddenly just stop). At the end of the day Thomas is the best England could currently get, so who cares where he comes from?

[Snowflake Royal]

Confession…. My first reaction was “ surely there must be a suitable Englishman available”……., but reading Farage/ the Express/ Mail’s offensive reaction I have performed a complete U turn. Not proud tbh.

I think it's reasonable to want someone English to manage England, it is the national side after all. That, of course, doesn’t mean one needs to have a xenophobic reaction to someone of another nationality being appointed.

It's a sad sign of how far our nation has regressed, that something seen as completely normal and accepted pushing towards 20 years ago with the likes of Ericsson and Capello now prompts xenophobic diatribes. Why anyone would want to take England back to 70s attitudes is beyond me, but that's where we seem to be unfortunately. And heading ever on back to the stone age.

Doesn't help the "buy in" that Capello and Ericsson were overall failures though. Personally would prefer an English/British manager but there aren't any out there that are really up to the job (and haven't been for ages but then that's a real issue with leading PL clubs chasing £££££ and not investing in the time managers from these shores need to develop, there must be great talent out there somewhere, it wouldn't suddenly just stop). At the end of the day Thomas is the best England could currently get, so who cares where he comes from?

Southgate is arguably our most successful manager, no trophy but multiple finals, certainly 2nd best, and yet his club record was nothing to cry home about.

Just because Howe and co haven't won the Premier League with moneybags FC doesn't mean they aren't up to the job.

Ericsson didn't really do a bad job. Better than Taylor, Hodgson et al.

[stealthpapes]

I don't know how the stats have changed - maybe a homework exercise - but when I was doing my FA coaching badges, Germany had approximately ten times the number of qualified coaches at every level.

Culture and process beats individuals every single time.

[BRO_BOT]

Confession…. My first reaction was “ surely there must be a suitable Englishman available”……., but reading Farage/ the Express/ Mail’s offensive reaction I have performed a complete U turn. Not proud tbh.

I think it's reasonable to want someone English to manage England, it is the national side after all. That, of course, doesn’t mean one needs to have a xenophobic reaction to someone of another nationality being appointed.

exactly...

[Sanguine]

With the addition of Harwood-Bellis and Jones, there are eight of Carsley's U21 European champions in the latest England squad - albeit I think maybe Gomes, Palmer, Colwill and Jones will be the one that Tuchel keeps on.

Slough's Lewis Hall get his first call-up too.