World Cup 2018

[Sutekh]

Peru really the best side by a mile but losing

And the Denmark bring on Martin Braithwaite

[CountryRoyal]

Peru unfortunate there.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

The peru fans' horns can fukk off

But yeah, really one sided game

[Zip]

I really wanted Peru to win that. They offered so much more than Denmark. Carrillo was outstanding

[tulip]

Didn't watch the Peru/Denmark game since had to make some time free for necessary tasks.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw9Mv6VftuM

[Pepe the Horseman]

Sure this has been covered before, but how far can you go back with VAR? Say someone's offside, but it's not given, goes out for a corner, then they score from the resulting corner. Can you go back to the initial offside? Or would it get picked up before the corner's taken?

[CountryRoyal]

Croatia - Nigeria painfully dull. For a team with as many quality players as Croatia they’re a bit naff. Like the Adriatic Belgium.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Croatia - Nigeria painfully dull. For a team with as many quality players as Croatia they’re a bit naff. Like the Adriatic Belgium.

Really liked Croatia at the Euros, so was expecting a bit more from them.

[Snowflake Royal]

Sure this has been covered before, but how far can you go back with VAR? Say someone's offside, but it's not given, goes out for a corner, then they score from the resulting corner. Can you go back to the initial offside? Or would it get picked up before the corner's taken?

If play stops you can't go back once play restarts.



Also, are we now saying that the Peru penalty that was missed wasn't a penalty!? Because it was blatant, his back foot was clipped out from under him as he went to step with it to open up the space for a shot.

[tmesis]

Sure this has been covered before, but how far can you go back with VAR? Say someone's offside, but it's not given, goes out for a corner, then they score from the resulting corner. Can you go back to the initial offside? Or would it get picked up before the corner's taken?

If play stops you can't go back once play restarts.



Also, are we now saying that the Peru penalty that was missed wasn't a penalty!? Because it was blatant, his back foot was clipped out from under him as he went to step with it to open up the space for a shot.

I think he was going down before the contact, and stretched leg out as he fell to get that contact.

[Royal Rother]

African nations used to be a breath of fresh air in the WC - now they are just pretty rancid.

[BR0B0T]

African nations used to be a breath of fresh air in the WC - now they are just pretty rancid.

you're as bad as Frimmers & tulip with this racist shizzle

[Snowflake Royal]

Sure this has been covered before, but how far can you go back with VAR? Say someone's offside, but it's not given, goes out for a corner, then they score from the resulting corner. Can you go back to the initial offside? Or would it get picked up before the corner's taken?

If play stops you can't go back once play restarts.



Also, are we now saying that the Peru penalty that was missed wasn't a penalty!? Because it was blatant, his back foot was clipped out from under him as he went to step with it to open up the space for a shot.

I think he was going down before the contact, and stretched leg out as he fell to get that contact.

On the drag back and turn? You're having a laugh!

[tmesis]

If play stops you can't go back once play restarts.



Also, are we now saying that the Peru penalty that was missed wasn't a penalty!? Because it was blatant, his back foot was clipped out from under him as he went to step with it to open up the space for a shot.

I think he was going down before the contact, and stretched leg out as he fell to get that contact.

On the drag back and turn? You're having a laugh!

To me this looked like where the first contact was made.



IF that's the case, he's looking for the contact. It's a terrible angle to judge though*. I think there was one other angle, from side, which was clearer, but I can't find a clip showing that to check.

* weirdly for the France VAR decision, they also kept showing the side view, which was also the worst angle to see if the defender got the ball or not.

[Snowflake Royal]

I think he was going down before the contact, and stretched leg out as he fell to get that contact.

On the drag back and turn? You're having a laugh!

To me this looked like where the first contact was made.



IF that's the case, he's looking for the contact. It's a terrible angle to judge though*. I think there was one other angle, from side, which was clearer, but I can't find a clip showing that to check.

* weirdly for the France VAR decision, they also kept showing the side view, which was also the worst angle to see if the defender got the ball or not.

I mean, yeah, if you want to look at a still it's ambiguous, but the video couldn't be clearer that he's caught and impeded. You've only got to watch it to see he's got eyes for nothing but the ball and that the contact happens behind him where he can't possibly see it to engineer it. His foot is going down to the ground to push off for a step and the Dane's leg goes through it taking it out from under him.

I mean, there's not even been any media question that it was dodgy. People said live they thought there might be no contact, but after seeing it its a clear pen.

I don't have enough to express bemusement at the idea it wasn't a clear penalty on review.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

* weirdly for the France VAR decision, they also kept showing the side view, which was also the worst angle to see if the defender got the ball or not.

Yeah i noticed that, the angles they were showing you in the VAR were the worst ones for judging the incident

The Peru player absolutely played for that contact, still a pen though

[Snowflake Royal]

* weirdly for the France VAR decision, they also kept showing the side view, which was also the worst angle to see if the defender got the ball or not.

Yeah i noticed that, the angles they were showing you in the VAR were the worst ones for judging the incident

The Peru player absolutely played for that contact, still a pen though

They showed those views of the France one because those were the views that best showed the offence - the trailing leg being clipped. A view to show whether and how much of a touch the defender got on the ball was immaterial. The ball was still (just about) in play for the striker to reach regardless of how much of a touch the defender got.

I'm pretty sure the laws don't talk about contact on the ball or player, but about impeding them.

[Snowflake Royal]

Having checked they do talk about contact on the player, but it's not required. There is literally no mention of getting the ball first preventing something being a foul. Not that I could find under law 12 anyway.

[Snowflake Royal]

Patrice Evra is great value in the studio, comes across as smart, witty and interesting. Almost makes ITV tolerable.

[10539.4 Miles Away]

Well I've given up on the subscription I have paid for here as the rights holder (Optus) are oxf*rd rubbish, stream only lasts a minute or two before you have to close the app completely and restart it so have moved to watching a flawless illegal ITV stream.

This Germany Mexico game is shaping up very nicely, fast paced, end to end and a ton of shots in the first 20. Don't know a great deal about the Mexicans, hope they don't tire.