Paddy Kenny LOL

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by blade 1 » 07 Jul 2009 17:55

Think its pretty harsh really.

How long were davids and mutu banned for for taking proper drugs?

This time your man goes in for a pack of tunes and could get banned for 2 years.

It probably means we need to buy a new keeper and have even less chance of keeping our better players.

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by papereyes » 08 Jul 2009 09:24

blade 1 Think its pretty harsh really.

How long were davids and mutu banned for for taking proper drugs?

This time your man goes in for a pack of tunes and could get banned for 2 years.

It probably means we need to buy a new keeper and have even less chance of keeping our better players.

iirc, there's a pretty comprehensive list of what substances are banned and where the banned substances can be found. The only possibly controversy is a different formulation (|cf Scot skier and the stereoisomer(.

Stupidity and ignorance can never be used as a defence.

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 08 Jul 2009 13:00

papereyes Stupidity and ignorance can never be used as a defence.

It's been tried in our back four often enough.

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by blade 1 » 08 Jul 2009 18:44

Point taken,

i would imagine that all players are told to get anything medical from the club doctors. So he only has himself to blame

However we are talking about a man who ended up getting his ear bitten off in a fight outside a curryhouse.

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by Deathy » 08 Jul 2009 19:28

PeROFLfoROFLmance enhancing dROFLug


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by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 08 Sep 2009 09:20

How could a drug enhance a goalkeepers performance especialy when it is Paddy Kenny.

A bit harsh on a player that has always taken a bit of stick from the RFC fans.

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by Wycombe Royal » 08 Sep 2009 09:35

The Real Sandhurst Royal How could a drug enhance a goalkeepers performance especialy when it is Paddy Kenny.

A bit harsh on a player that has always taken a bit of stick from the RFC fans.

You can't give different punishments to players who play in different positions.

He needs to be made an example of so as to raise the awareness of how important it is for a professional sportsman to check ALL medicines they take. The fact that it was unintentional is not an excuse.

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by (.)Boobies(.) » 08 Sep 2009 12:26

The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.


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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 08 Sep 2009 13:09

(.)Boobies(.) The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.

I do think the governing bodies in sport need to start being able to differentiate between cheating and having a trace of a drug in your system through a medication etc. They are not the same and shouldn't be treated as such.

It's rather like being convicted of drink driving because you were found to have eaten a packet of wine gums.

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by Wycombe Royal » 08 Sep 2009 13:15

(.)Boobies(.) The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.

No it doesn't. He took a banned substance through his own stupidity, and punishments like this need to be handed out so as to try and prevent others being stupid. He wants to be a professional sportsman and take the riches that comes with it so he also has to take the punishment when he breaks the rules.

You can't start making exceptions just because it was a mistake. They know the rules and they know they have to get all medications approved BEFORE they take them.

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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 08 Sep 2009 13:17

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(.)Boobies(.) The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.

He took a banned substance through his own stupidity, and punishments like this need to be handed out so as to try and prevent others being stupid..


Why exactly is there a need to stop sportsmen accidentally taking tiny quantities of drugs that'll make no difference whatsoever?

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by Silver Fox » 08 Sep 2009 13:53

What's the problem exactly? I know that there is a bunch of banned substances and that any over the counter treatments might contain these and that failing a drug test would mean a ban and I'm not even involved in any sort of organised sport. Any sportsperson subject to the rules regarding dugs has got no excuse if they fall foul of them.


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by Wycombe Royal » 08 Sep 2009 13:53

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(.)Boobies(.) The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.

He took a banned substance through his own stupidity, and punishments like this need to be handed out so as to try and prevent others being stupid..


Why exactly is there a need to stop sportsmen accidentally taking tiny quantities of drugs that'll make no difference whatsoever?

Because it provides an excuse to those who are taking it intentionally which they can use to argue their case.

The substance is banned in any quantity and EVERY sportsman knows this. Paddy Kenny didn't follow a simple process of making sure a medication was safe to take. He gets paid a lot of money to do a job he probably loves doing, it isn't really much to ask for them to follow anti-drug rules is it?

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by ZacNaloen » 08 Sep 2009 14:23

With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.


You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.

If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by Hoop Blah » 08 Sep 2009 14:45

ZacNaloen With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.


You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.

If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.


The masking agents and processes for clearing drugs from the systems are just as advanced as the testing though aren't they?

Once you start allowing certain levels you just make it a lot harder to enforce.

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by Wycombe Royal » 08 Sep 2009 14:58

ZacNaloen With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.


You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.

If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.

Or alternatively just ban the taking of these drugs completely.

Oh they've already done that.

And as these cases are very rare it would appear that most sportsmen/women aren't as stupid as poor old Paddy.

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by krisholland » 08 Sep 2009 18:01

Hoop Blah
ZacNaloen With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.


You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.

If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.


The masking agents and processes for clearing drugs from the systems are just as advanced as the testing though aren't they?

Once you start allowing certain levels you just make it a lot harder to enforce.


I am still curious how a goalkeeper or whatever sportsman is going to perform better from cannabis.
To me it`s almost as puzzling as testing chessplayers for steroids(don`t laugh..this really happens).

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by blade 1 » 08 Sep 2009 20:05

It is pretty harsh seeing as it could well cost him his future at united. (being out of contract at the end of the season.)

Davids got 4 months for taking a proper performance enhancing drug. Bednar got caught buying coke and got three months. So comparatively it seems unfair. But he must have known the rules and known he had to get it through the club doctor.

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Re: Paddy Kenny LOL

by leww_rfc » 08 Sep 2009 21:33

blade 1 It is pretty harsh seeing as it could well cost him his future at united. (being out of contract at the end of the season.)

Davids got 4 months for taking a proper performance enhancing drug. Bednar got caught buying coke and got three months. So comparatively it seems unfair. But he must have known the rules and known he had to get it through the club doctor.


who is his replacement as goalie?

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