Paul Scholes

Who's the better player?

Scholes
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92%
Lampard
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8%
 
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Re: Paul Scholes

by TBM » 17 Aug 2010 17:30

Big Foot If Scholes is so good, why hasn't he received the individual accolades his team mates have?


But would his team mates have won those awards without Scholes in the team?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by 3 veesinarow » 18 Aug 2010 12:24

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Anyway, talk of the number of awards or goals scored meaning one player is better than another is :roll:

Scholes>Lampard - somebody poll it.


coz if awards and goals don't indicate who the better player is, a poll on hobnob sure as shit will


Numbskull.

The poll is to indicate who amongst Nobbers believe is the better player, not anything else.

Awards are subjective, medals are material proof of achievement and goals win games, but don't mean that a player is the "best" simply because he has scored more than his opponent in debates such as this. For instance, Gary Lineker scored hatfuls, but would come second to Bobby Moore in a who was the better player poll, despite the different eras in which they played.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Seal » 18 Aug 2010 13:57

Scholes is a footballers' footballer. Plays the team game to perfection. The kind of player everyone would love to have in their team.

It is a team game after all is it not? It's all about the prizes your CLUB wins, not your players.

Lampard is a excellent goal scoring midfielder.

Scholes is the best player of his generation.

No comparison.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by winchester_royal » 18 Aug 2010 15:18

Seal Scholes is a footballers' footballer. Plays the team game to perfection. The kind of player everyone would love to have in their team.

It is a team game after all is it not? It's all about the prizes your CLUB wins, not your players.

Lampard is a excellent goal scoring midfielder.

Scholes is the best player of his generation.

No comparison.


But then why hasn't Scholes won any individual accolades?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by rfcjoe » 18 Aug 2010 15:21

Because he isn't selfish, and is a team player. I rarely see Lampard tracking back, or sitting deep while a fellow midfielder pushes on.


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Re: Paul Scholes

by TBM » 18 Aug 2010 15:27

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Seal Scholes is a footballers' footballer. Plays the team game to perfection. The kind of player everyone would love to have in their team.

It is a team game after all is it not? It's all about the prizes your CLUB wins, not your players.

Lampard is a excellent goal scoring midfielder.

Scholes is the best player of his generation.

No comparison.


But then why hasn't Scholes won any individual accolades?


Cos these awards are all blinkered and people seem to think that you have to pull off every move in the book, score 20+ goals a season and appear in every newspaper and in every interview on MOTD/Sky

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Re: Paul Scholes

by winchester_royal » 18 Aug 2010 15:28

But...what about the individual accolades? :|

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Re: Paul Scholes

by TheMaraudingDog » 18 Aug 2010 15:51

LOL @ Winchester and Big Foot.

Schmeichel was the best Prem keeper in the 90's, prob the best keeper ever to play in the Prem and you could say the best keeper of all time, but he never won player of the year, not even Uniteds player of the year and never got a vote for the Europe / World player if the year, reason was because his role wasn't to steal headlines and he was never in all the fashion mags, like Scholes he just went about his business and was the best at what he did.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by papereyes » 18 Aug 2010 15:55

I'd be fairly sure he won some trinkets like BLAHBLAH Goalkeeper of the Year though.


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Re: Paul Scholes

by soggy biscuit » 18 Aug 2010 15:56

Seal Scholes is the best player of his generation.


Not to take anything away from Scholes who is pure class but:

Maldini > (fat) Ronaldo > Giggs > Schmeichel > Del Piero > Scholes

And probably a fair few more too

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Y21_Royal » 18 Aug 2010 16:13

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Seal Scholes is the best player of his generation.


Not to take anything away from Scholes who is pure class but:

Maldini > (fat) Ronaldo > Giggs > Schmeichel > Del Piero > Scholes

And probably a fair few more too


In fairness I think you can argue that Schmiechel & Maldini aren't of the same generation as Scholes.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by soggy biscuit » 18 Aug 2010 16:22

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Seal Scholes is the best player of his generation.


Not to take anything away from Scholes who is pure class but:

Maldini > (fat) Ronaldo > Giggs > Schmeichel > Del Piero > Scholes

And probably a fair few more too


In fairness I think you can argue that Schmiechel & Maldini aren't of the same generation as Scholes.


Having looked up Schmeichel's age I agree, didn't realise. Maldini & Scholes played 15 seasons at the same time so disgaree on that one

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Re: Paul Scholes

by soggy biscuit » 18 Aug 2010 16:26

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Seal Scholes is the best player of his generation.


Not to take anything away from Scholes who is pure class but:

(fat) Ronaldo > Giggs > Schmeichel > Del Piero > Scholes

And probably a fair few more too


You can also through Zidane > Figo > Buffon in there too.

Scholes is quality but to say the best of his generation is just laughable.


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Re: Paul Scholes

by Y21_Royal » 18 Aug 2010 16:28

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Y21_Royal In fairness I think you can argue that Schmiechel & Maldini aren't of the same generation as Scholes.


Having looked up Schmeichel's age I agree, didn't realise. Maldini & Scholes played 15 seasons at the same time so disgaree on that one


Isn't Maldini about 5 years older than Scholes though? I suppose its how you define a generation really.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by royal tee » 18 Aug 2010 16:30

Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"

Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."

Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."

Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."

Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."

Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."

Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."

Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."

Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."

Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."

Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."

Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."

Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."

Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."

Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."

Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."

Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."

Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."

Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."

Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some of those players is great."

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Big Foot » 18 Aug 2010 16:38

Wonder what the best ever post-war manager thinks about Paul Scholes?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Y21_Royal » 18 Aug 2010 16:39

Big Foot Wonder what the best ever post-war manager thinks about Paul Scholes?


Kevin Keegan's quoted on there m8

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Re: Paul Scholes

by TBM » 18 Aug 2010 16:42

Big Foot Wonder what the best ever post-war manager thinks about Paul Scholes?


Fergie?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Silver Fox » 18 Aug 2010 16:43

Big Foot Wonder what the best ever post-war manager thinks about Paul Scholes?


Impossible to say as he died in 1996

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Big Foot » 18 Aug 2010 17:01

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Big Foot Wonder what the best ever post-war manager thinks about Paul Scholes?


Fergie?

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