Jimmy Kebe

[melonhead]

Having listened to Adkins interviews with Dellor recently Adkins does not come across as the type to accidentally stumble into giving an answer.

If he didn't want to answer 5 questions about Jimmy Kebe, he wouldn't have IMO.
I don't buy the 'he was asked therefore had to answer' nonsense. If he hadn't wanted to go in to the matter in detail at that particular moment, then he wouldn't have.

I do kind of agree - he could have just said that Kebe wasn't fit, which - to be fair - I'm sure we'd all have believed readily enough.

After Kebe (who never wants to give interviews) had taken it upon himself to ring BBCRB on Saturday to state that he had been fully fit for two weeks but not selected to play? Why should the manager lie to cover up for that barsteward? I'm glad that for once a manager told things exactly how they were, including how Kebe could have helped keep us up last year had he not been 'injured'.

hilarious.
now kebe wasnt actually injured last year either, and was just making it up cos he couldnt be arsed to play in the prem?

what are you on about adkins covering for him?
jimmy clearly didnt want/need covering for, hence his phonecall to BBCRB

[RoyalBlue]

"I felt my hamstring tweak on Monday and felt it better not to risk it," Kebe confirmed to BBC Sport.

I believe Jimmy.

me too.

and a bit disappointed by adkins calling him out over his fitness/health etc.
very bad management doing it in public etc.
probably enough for some sort of reparation in another walk of life

So you are one of those who does believe that they removed 'gullible' from the dictionary!

Why the f*ck would anyone believe Kebe, particularly after his call to BBCRB declaring himself fully fit (and had been for two weeks) and implying frustration at his non-selection on Saturday? To me the guy seems to get 'injured' and 'fit' when it suits him. Perhaps I am wrong but could it be that on this occasion what suits him is the possibility of a move to another club? Will someone please confirm or deny that it was Kebe who got into a dispute/work to rule at his last club in order to force a transfer move through?

In my opinion 'When the going gets tough, Kebe gets injured'.

If we don't get a decent offer he should be left to rot at the training ground.

[melonhead]

He shouldn't have to protect Kebe.

from what?

[melonhead]

So you are one of those who does believe that they removed 'gullible' from the dictionary!

.

playground insults from 1982

top work

[Colin Cheeselog]

He shouldn't have to protect Kebe.

from what?

Sexual predators, obviously.

[melonhead]

Why the f*ck would anyone believe Kebe, particularly after his call to BBCRB declaring himself fully fit (and had been for two weeks) and implying frustration at his non-selection on Saturday? To me the guy seems to get 'injured' and 'fit' when it suits him. Perhaps I am wrong but could it be that on this occasion what suits him is the possibility of a move to another club? Will someone please confirm or deny that it was Kebe who got into a dispute/work to rule at his last club in order to force a transfer move through?

In my opinion 'When the going gets tough, Kebe gets injured'.

If we don't get a decent offer he should be left to rot at the training ground

winner of the coveted melonheads worst poster ever award with its accompanying induction onto the hall of infamy.


and there really is no need to swear young man.
the key is to try and keep your rattledness hidden, not broadcast it

[melonhead]

He shouldn't have to protect Kebe.

from what?

Sexual predators, obviously.

when you are as attractive as jimmy, it just comes with the territory.

it must be very difficut for him tbf

[melonhead]

So you are one of those who does believe that they removed 'gullible' from the dictionary!

To me the guy seems to get 'injured' and 'fit' when it suits him. .

this is the problem you see.since you really have no oxf*rd clue what youre on about, you should probably ignore thos thoughts as they conga through your head, and not just blurt them out willy nilly.

Perhaps I am wrong

well durr

[Hoop Blah]

Will someone please confirm or deny that it was Kebe who got into a dispute/work to rule at his last club in order to force a transfer move through?

Yes, it was reported at the time that he went on strike to get his move to Reading.

[royal67]

From the Chronicle:

Adkins' comments sparked rumours that the winger had refused to play amidst interest from Crystal Palace, but he told the Chronicle that is completely untrue.

"The fans say Jimmy Kebe refused to play and this sort of thing but I would never do that. I've been at Reading for six years and never have I refused to play. Why would I now?," he said.

"It wasn't a good game for Reading and I feel they need to make somebody guilty for this result and maybe that's me."

Palace are believed to have made a bid for Kebe and he confirmed his long-term future remains uncertain, saying: "There is interest from clubs but I'm here at Reading. The manager knows the situation, we will see."

[RoyalBlue]

I do kind of agree - he could have just said that Kebe wasn't fit, which - to be fair - I'm sure we'd all have believed readily enough.

After Kebe (who never wants to give interviews) had taken it upon himself to ring BBCRB on Saturday to state that he had been fully fit for two weeks but not selected to play? Why should the manager lie to cover up for that barsteward? I'm glad that for once a manager told things exactly how they were, including how Kebe could have helped keep us up last year had he not been 'injured'.

hilarious.
now kebe wasnt actually injured last year either, and was just making it up cos he couldnt be arsed to play in the prem?

what are you on about adkins covering for him?
jimmy clearly didnt want/need covering for, hence his phonecall to BBCRB

You might think it hilarious but try plotting this guy's past injuries against times when the team has been going through tough periods in terms of results. It seems to me that part way through these your hero gets injured and then struggles to regain fitness. In my opinion he is not a player who enjoys/thrives playing in those circumstances. Evidence would also tend to suggest that he suffers from a disproportionate number of injuries and, compared to others, is an incredibly slow healer. And tell me, what were the circumstances surrounding his departure from his last club?

As for your final point - it's OK for Kebe to get on the phone (probably against club policies) and make his manager out to be the bad guy but not OK for the manager to speak out in defence of himself and the club by naming and shaming that individual? Why the hell should Adkins go along with Kebe's agenda and story if he doesn't agree with it? Why do I think Kebe wanted covering? Because I believe he lacked the b*llocks to state that he didn't want to play (for whatever reason) and wanted to dress it up as a recurrence of an injury that just a day or so earlier he had shouted from the roof tops that he had fully recovered from. Do the Reading FC physios/medical staff not work out of hours? Why did Kebe not consult with them?

It will be so funny if the move(s) he aspires to now fall through because the club(s) get cold feet over his injury record!

[arreff]

I wonder what the posters think about a regulation stating that all players should honour their contracts. I am a little concerned that it is becoming more and more prevalent for players to sign a contract and then shortly after decide that they can just walk away from their obligations. Just this year we have had Suarez, Rooney, and now Bale attempting to sulk long enough to force a transfer.

[madstadblues]

Groin Strain Injury
A Groin Strain is one of the most common injuries in sports, especially football. The term describes a strain of the Adductor muscles that are located on the inside of the thigh. The injury usually occurs when the muscle is forcibly stretched beyond its limits and the muscle tissue tears. A tear in a muscle is referred to as a strain and, depending on its severity, is classified as a first, second or third degree strain.

The immediate treatment for any muscle injury consists of the RICE protocol - rest, ice, compression and elevation (never apply ice directly to the skin). As a general rule, grade one Groin Strains should be rested from sporting activity for about 3 weeks, and grade two injuries for about 4 to 6 weeks. In the case of a complete rupture, the muscle may have to be repaired surgically and the rehabilitation afterwards will take at least 3 months.

He must have had a bad one.

(BTW - how many professional footballers do Mali have to select from for their International Team?)

[TFF]

Dear Jimmy,

You're dead to me now.

[The Goat was fed]

There is an awful lot of crap being talked here today, but the "Jimmy Kebe" gets injured on cue chat has to be up there with some of the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard.

Kebe wound up West Ham for fun. Then, in what was our biggest (promotion-wise) match of the season, he played his best ever Reading performance at Upton Park. Not only was he getting over the top the tackles all game, he put up with some racist abuse and defended like a trojan. In fact, that was sometimes my favourite thing about Jimmy. There were times, especially when playing with Cummings, he was our best Right-Back as well as best Right-Winger! He's never let the club down on the pitch and has had plenty of opportunity to leave when he was pulling up trees in the Championship. This is bad management.

Furthermore, a few of you really need to wise up re: Adkins media relations. Admittedly it's my line of work, but his media performance last night followed was Crisis PR interview 101. Yes you apologise, creating a sense of accountability and then you deflect (with Kebe chat in this case) thus making people forget your accountability.

[RoyalBlue]

So you are one of those who does believe that they removed 'gullible' from the dictionary!

To me the guy seems to get 'injured' and 'fit' when it suits him. .

this is the problem you see.since you really have no oxf*rd clue what youre on about, you should probably ignore thos thoughts as they conga through your head, and not just blurt them out willy nilly.

Perhaps I am wrong

well durr

If you want to make it personal, I genuinely believe it is you that is lacking in intelligence and logic. Furthermore, I suspect I am in a position to know far more about sporting injuries and sports science/medicine than you. Leaving that aside, my thoughts and suppositions are exactly that - thank you for emphasising that fact by underlining and bolding 'To me'. You are welcome to think differently and draw diametrically opposite conclusions. You won't agree with me and I won't agree with you. Do either of us really care?

I also have the intelligence and training to know that you do have to be careful how you express your thoughts in writing on forums such as this, just in case someone has a litigious nature. Hence the absence of categoric statements and inclusion of qualifiers.

And you still haven't commented on the circumstances surrounding Kebe's last departure from a club. Did he leave them in a good way and on good terms?

[Platypuss]

Kebe's own words demonstrate he wasn't really fit for Blackpool after all then.

[Hoop Blah]

...He's never let the club down on the pitch and has had plenty of opportunity to leave when he was pulling up trees in the Championship. This is bad management.

As with Guthrie/McDermott there will be an element of mis-management by Adkins here, but you have to wonder what the rest of the first team squad think of his stance that Kebe has to earn his place back in the team. From the comments made by some last year they probably welcome the competition for places as opposed to just keeping the shirt warm for when Kebe comes back.

As for not letting us down on the pitch, there were many a time when Kebe would duck out of a challenge, amble around looking disinterested or not take his man on and opt for the safe ball too often when his confidence was low. McDermott got some form of consistency and a higher level of performance from him, but don't forget how turgid, and gutless at times, some of his performances have been.

[RoyalBlue]

There is an awful lot of crap being talked here today, but the "Jimmy Kebe" gets injured on cue chat has to be up there with some of the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard.

Kebe wound up West Ham for fun. Then, in what was our biggest (promotion-wise) match of the season, he played his best ever Reading performance at Upton Park. Not only was he getting over the top the tackles all game, he put up with some racist abuse and defended like a trojan. In fact, that was sometimes my favourite thing about Jimmy. There were times, especially when playing with Cummings, he was our best Right-Back as well as best Right-Winger! He's never let the club down on the pitch and has had plenty of opportunity to leave when he was pulling up trees in the Championship. This is bad management.

Furthermore, a few of you really need to wise up re: Adkins media relations. Admittedly it's my line of work, but his media performance last night followed was Crisis PR interview 101. Yes you apologise, creating a sense of accountability and then you deflect (with Kebe chat in this case) thus making people forget your accountability.

So Dellor was acting as Adkins' stooge by asking the question about Kebe's absence? I very much doubt it since Dellor clearly has little time for the new manager at present. I very much doubt Adkins was waiting in the hope that Dellor would ask, so if it was as you say, why didn't he highlight the Kebe issue himself? - he had shown no sign till then of doing so.

As for letting the club down on the pitch, he has put in some pretty poor performances on occasions and often failed to play anywhere near to his full potential (the Swansea playoff final was far from his finest hour). His injury record and extremely slow healing process has meant that he has also let the club down by not being on the pitch enough!

[Platypuss]

Furthermore, a few of you really need to wise up re: Adkins media relations. Admittedly it's my line of work, but his media performance last night followed was Crisis PR interview 101. Yes you apologise, creating a sense of accountability and then you deflect (with Kebe chat in this case) thus making people forget your accountability.

If you were really as much of a PR guru as you are trying to make out you wouldn't be flaunting your agenda so readily.