VAR

[Franchise FC]

I think poor little Fraser has a problem-if the wind blows at over 5 mph or a player runs nearby creating a bit of a draft it causes him to fall over.

That may be the case. In this case, however, he was completely wiped out

[Sanguine]

I think poor little Fraser has a problem-if the wind blows at over 5 mph or a player runs nearby creating a bit of a draft it causes him to fall over.

Tell me that there is more to it here than your dislike of Bournemouth, from where Fraser was signed?
Because the guy was totally clattered.

[South Coast Royal]

I think poor little Fraser has a problem-if the wind blows at over 5 mph or a player runs nearby creating a bit of a draft it causes him to fall over.

Tell me that there is more to it here than your dislike of Bournemouth, from where Fraser was signed?
Because the guy was totally clattered.

No, I was talking in general terms-I didn't see the City game nor the incident-he is more of a diver than most IMHO and as a little 'un wins more free kicks than he should.

BTW re-Bournemouth I had a sizeable bet on them getting promoted this season (value for money odds) so, unlike quite a few on here, I am not presently anti-Bournemouth (for this season only )

[BROB0T]

I think poor little Fraser has a problem-if the wind blows at over 5 mph or a player runs nearby creating a bit of a draft it causes him to fall over.

Tell me that there is more to it here than your dislike of Bournemouth, from where Fraser was signed?
Because the guy was totally clattered.

No, I was talking in general terms-I didn't see the City game nor the incident-he is more of a diver than most IMHO and as a little 'un wins more free kicks than he should.

BTW re-Bournemouth I had a sizeable bet on them getting promoted this season (value for money odds) so, unlike quite a few on here, I am not presently anti-Bournemouth (for this season only )

How did you calculate your odds to compare against the available odds to ascertain value?

[South Coast Royal]

Tell me that there is more to it here than your dislike of Bournemouth, from where Fraser was signed?
Because the guy was totally clattered.

No, I was talking in general terms-I didn't see the City game nor the incident-he is more of a diver than most IMHO and as a little 'un wins more free kicks than he should.

BTW re-Bournemouth I had a sizeable bet on them getting promoted this season (value for money odds) so, unlike quite a few on here, I am not presently anti-Bournemouth (for this season only )

How did you calculate your odds to compare against the available odds to ascertain value?

Gut instinct.

[Franchise FC]

According to David Moyes, West Ham have had two apologies from PGMOL for incorrect VAR decisions.

How can they get it so wrong ?

[Sanguine]

According to David Moyes, West Ham have had two apologies from PGMOL for incorrect VAR decisions.

How can they get it so wrong ?

Add in the Fraser foul and no action on Kane, and VAR (or, PL referees' application of it) hit new depths this weekend.

[Franchise FC]

According to David Moyes, West Ham have had two apologies from PGMOL for incorrect VAR decisions.

How can they get it so wrong ?

Add in the Fraser foul and no action on Kane, and VAR (or, PL referees' application of it) hit new depths this weekend.

I’ve not heard definitively that they’ve apologised for those you mention, but they bloody should

Are they trying to discredit the system so that it’s ditched ?

[Sanguine]

It's the lack of accountability that kills it. They might sit in their comfy little referees' meeting and say 'Tierney, that was a load of bollocks, wasn't it?' but that means little in the wider scheme of things. I suggested before that all VAR decisions should be subject to documentation (they probably already are) that is then made public, so that fans can after a match understand the decision-making process that the officials followed.

[Franchise FC]

It's the lack of accountability that kills it. They might sit in their comfy little referees' meeting and say 'Tierney, that was a load of bollocks, wasn't it?' but that means little in the wider scheme of things. I suggested before that all VAR decisions should be subject to documentation (they probably already are) that is then made public, so that fans can after a match understand the decision-making process that the officials followed.

Just make the radio conversation audible to everyone (a la rugby).

[BROB0T]

It really takes away from goal celebrations!

I'd be happy to bin it

[Donny Ironside]

It's the lack of accountability that kills it. They might sit in their comfy little referees' meeting and say 'Tierney, that was a load of bollocks, wasn't it?' but that means little in the wider scheme of things. I suggested before that all VAR decisions should be subject to documentation (they probably already are) that is then made public, so that fans can after a match understand the decision-making process that the officials followed.

This was in my presentation and they said no

[URZZZZ]

Find the notion of having VAR in some games and not in others crazy in the same competition. Can’t quite work out if Villa’s goal should have stood but the fact they spend a good 3/4 minutes looking at it says enough

[BROB0T]

Find the notion of having VAR in some games and not in others crazy in the same competition. Can’t quite work out if Villa’s goal should have stood but the fact they spend a good 3/4 minutes looking at it says enough

It was offside but they gave a foul 4fs

[6ft Kerplunk]

Wasn't overly convinced it was a foul. Cavani seemed to run straight into the defender rather than the defender stepping across to block him.

[URZZZZ]

Wasn't overly convinced it was a foul. Cavani seemed to run straight into the defender rather than the defender stepping across to block him.

That’s the difficulty really, it’s a hard one to tell and could have gone either way

For me, the fact they spent so long looking at it means they should have just stuck with the referees original decision. But then maybe I just don’t understand how VAR should be operated

One thing which continues to frustrate is the delayed linesman’s flag. Not necessarily their fault as that’s what they’ve been told to do, but you’d think one day it’ll result in a really bad injury with Lindelof’s a warning sign yesterday. The Watkins goal wasn’t even close, it’s a really stupid rule

[BROB0T]

Wasn't overly convinced it was a foul. Cavani seemed to run straight into the defender rather than the defender stepping across to block him.

It looked offside to me rather than a foul. I'd be going mad if it was the other way around

Headed down after the cross, next player takes a touch putting Ings (iirc) offside for the final touch

[6ft Kerplunk]

One thing which continues to frustrate is the delayed linesman’s flag. Not necessarily their fault as that’s what they’ve been told to do, but you’d think one day it’ll result in a really bad injury with Lindelof’s a warning sign yesterday. The Watkins goal wasn’t even close, it’s a really stupid rule

Wasn't van Dijk's knee injury after a delayed flag? Its utterly stupid when its clearly offside.

[6ft Kerplunk]

Wasn't overly convinced it was a foul. Cavani seemed to run straight into the defender rather than the defender stepping across to block him.

It looked offside to me rather than a foul. I'd be going mad if it was the other way around

Headed down after the cross, next player takes a touch putting Ings (iirc) offside for the final touch

I don't think it was clear that Watkins actually got a touch, that's why I thought the decision was taking so long. Ball didn't seem to deviate or spin differently as it went passed his studs. Both were onside from the header back across.

How come players have to change shirts if they get blood on it but Dalot didn't have to change the his blood soaked sock?

[BROB0T]

Wasn't overly convinced it was a foul. Cavani seemed to run straight into the defender rather than the defender stepping across to block him.

It looked offside to me rather than a foul. I'd be going mad if it was the other way around

Headed down after the cross, next player takes a touch putting Ings (iirc) offside for the final touch

I don't think it was clear that Watkins actually got a touch, that's why I thought the decision was taking so long. Ball didn't seem to deviate or spin differently as it went passed his studs. Both were onside from the header back across.

Yeah, that was my thinking as well in terms of how long it took.

Very soft foul