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[leon]

Watched the game as a neutral along with a Chelsea fan.
Man Utd currently look no better than any side in 13th position with so little drive about them.

IMHO Chelsea should have won easily but , I am informed, they play well every week up to and around the penalty area but often fail to create a chance.

Caicedo now looks the player he was at Brighton but Casamiro looks the player that Real Madrid were only too happy to get rid of ( for the sort of money that clubs paid for Isak, Palmer and Harland), something that presumably could happen soon to Rashford, a mere shadow of his former self.

I watched the first half and then went to the shops. It says something when Chelsea are the team trying to play football. Not sure who in the Premier League genuinely entertain any more. It's probably me but top flight football nowadays leaves me fairly cold.

[BRO_BOT]

This is the best time to be a MU fan.

A new manager in, plenty of promise but yet to kick a ball and fcuk it up

[AthleticoSpizz]

……..and property prices still on the rise in sweet suburban Surrey
Boom-tish
(circa 2001 hna)

[Winston Biscuit]

This is the best time to be a MU fan.

A new manager in, plenty of promise but yet to kick a ball and fcuk it up

Just putting it out there that I think Amorim will be a success

[BRO_BOT]

This is the best time to be a MU fan.

A new manager in, plenty of promise but yet to kick a ball and fcuk it up

Just putting it out there that I think Amorim will be a success

I'll take it but what are you basing this on?

[Winston Biscuit]

This is the best time to be a MU fan.

A new manager in, plenty of promise but yet to kick a ball and fcuk it up

Just putting it out there that I think Amorim will be a success

I'll take it but what are you basing this on?

Just listen to and read a lot of euro football stuff and for the past 3-4 years he consistently gets raved about. Mainly his attacking style, but also his no nonsense taking from players.

Also, people often think Portugal has 3 big clubs, but it doesn't, it has 2 big clubs and Sporting, who are kind of a half big club.

What he did there was genuinely really very special. Not only are they the lesser of those 3 clubs by some way, who hadn't won the league in 20 years, but they were also still recovering from the financial effecfs of the incident where the fans invaded the training ground, attacked the players, and the players tore up their contracts and left.

In his first season he wins them the league. Last season wins them the league again. Right now they are top of the league.

If i could take my pick of any manager on the continent to take over my messy underperforming squad, give them a kick up the backside and get them doing what they should be doing, then Amorim would be that person.

(He also loves touchline shenanigans & bust ups so some value for us neutrals too!)

[BRO_BOT]

Just putting it out there that I think Amorim will be a success

I'll take it but what are you basing this on?

Just listen to and read a lot of euro football stuff and for the past 3-4 years he consistently gets raved about. Mainly his attacking style, but also his no nonsense taking from players.

Also, people often think Portugal has 3 big clubs, but it doesn't, it has 2 big clubs and Sporting, who are kind of a half big club.

What he did there was genuinely really very special. Not only are they the lesser of those 3 clubs by some way, who hadn't won the league in 20 years, but they were also still recovering from the financial effecfs of the incident where the fans invaded the training ground, attacked the players, and the players tore up their contracts and left.

In his first season he wins them the league. Last season wins them the league again. Right now they are top of the league.

If i could take my pick of any manager on the continent to take over my messy underperforming squad, give them a kick up the backside and get them doing what they should be doing, then Amorim would be that person.

(He also loves touchline shenanigans & bust ups so some value for us neutrals too!)

So not as good as ETH record as the hip up-and-comer 3/4 years ago

[Winston Biscuit]

I'll take it but what are you basing this on?

Just listen to and read a lot of euro football stuff and for the past 3-4 years he consistently gets raved about. Mainly his attacking style, but also his no nonsense taking from players.

Also, people often think Portugal has 3 big clubs, but it doesn't, it has 2 big clubs and Sporting, who are kind of a half big club.

What he did there was genuinely really very special. Not only are they the lesser of those 3 clubs by some way, who hadn't won the league in 20 years, but they were also still recovering from the financial effecfs of the incident where the fans invaded the training ground, attacked the players, and the players tore up their contracts and left.

In his first season he wins them the league. Last season wins them the league again. Right now they are top of the league.

If i could take my pick of any manager on the continent to take over my messy underperforming squad, give them a kick up the backside and get them doing what they should be doing, then Amorim would be that person.

(He also loves touchline shenanigans & bust ups so some value for us neutrals too!)

So not as good as ETH record as the hip up-and-comer 3/4 years ago

Disagree, his record is better IMO.

And let's not rerun hipster-gate again

[BRO_BOT]

Just listen to and read a lot of euro football stuff and for the past 3-4 years he consistently gets raved about. Mainly his attacking style, but also his no nonsense taking from players.

Also, people often think Portugal has 3 big clubs, but it doesn't, it has 2 big clubs and Sporting, who are kind of a half big club.

What he did there was genuinely really very special. Not only are they the lesser of those 3 clubs by some way, who hadn't won the league in 20 years, but they were also still recovering from the financial effecfs of the incident where the fans invaded the training ground, attacked the players, and the players tore up their contracts and left.

In his first season he wins them the league. Last season wins them the league again. Right now they are top of the league.

If i could take my pick of any manager on the continent to take over my messy underperforming squad, give them a kick up the backside and get them doing what they should be doing, then Amorim would be that person.

(He also loves touchline shenanigans & bust ups so some value for us neutrals too!)

So not as good as ETH record as the hip up-and-comer 3/4 years ago

Disagree, his record is better IMO.

And let's not rerun hipster-gate again

His record is not better

I'm happy to define hipster manager as 'one likely to turn up for work on a skateboard'

[Winston Biscuit]

So not as good as ETH record as the hip up-and-comer 3/4 years ago

Disagree, his record is better IMO.

And let's not rerun hipster-gate again

His record is not better

Disagree. One took over a massive outsider for the league, with no league success in 20 years, who had gone through an appalling financial situation, the other took over the biggest club in the Netherlands who had just missed out on the league title by a single point

They both had success, but where their respective clubs were when they took over them was incomparable

[Vision]

I'm curious to know what "success" looks like and what the timeframe is for the new guy.

Winning Trophies or does it have to be the right trophies?

Qualifying for the Champions League or winning it?

Competing for the Premier League or winning it?

Does he get a year, 2 or maybe 3 to achieve any of this?

FWIW he looks like a very good appointment to me but I'm wondering what he has to do in the first year/18 months to stop the knives coming out.

[Winston Biscuit]

There have been 14 Man Utd managers since Sir Matt Busby (Ruben Amorim is the 15th), but only 4 of them won their first league game

[Snowflake Royal]

Dip in and out of this thread for the lols and just seen Utd are 13th, already 13 points behind Liverpool.

[BRO_BOT]

Rashford might have scored but he still only had 13 touches on the ball.

Being a striker at Utd is a very isolated position.

[6ft Kerplunk]

I don't think I'm any kind of tactical genius but maybe they should trying playing like they did for the first 5mins for the entire match.

[Sutekh]

Just putting it out there that I think Amorim will be a success

I'll take it but what are you basing this on?

Just listen to and read a lot of euro football stuff and for the past 3-4 years he consistently gets raved about. Mainly his attacking style, but also his no nonsense taking from players.

Also, people often think Portugal has 3 big clubs, but it doesn't, it has 2 big clubs and Sporting, who are kind of a half big club.

What he did there was genuinely really very special. Not only are they the lesser of those 3 clubs by some way, who hadn't won the league in 20 years, but they were also still recovering from the financial effecfs of the incident where the fans invaded the training ground, attacked the players, and the players tore up their contracts and left.

In his first season he wins them the league. Last season wins them the league again. Right now they are top of the league.

If i could take my pick of any manager on the continent to take over my messy underperforming squad, give them a kick up the backside and get them doing what they should be doing, then Amorim would be that person.

(He also loves touchline shenanigans & bust ups so some value for us neutrals too!)

But then Portugal’s “big 2.5” would struggle for the top 6 in the PL and the strength overall of the PL is obviously far greater than Portugal’s where the big teams only really have to turn up in 4 games so this will be Amorim’s first real test in management. No reason he can’t succeed and, let’s face it, he can’t really do worse than ETH or Rangnick or Mourinho and he should be able to rival Solskjaer for a decent win rate. The next two transfer windows will be interesting as presume he’ll be well backed. Wonder if Rashford will be given the elbow or whether Amorim will rejuvenate him, be interesting to see whether there’s an agreement not to go back and buy in several Sporting players.

Overall don’t think United could have landed a better name to take them on and he’ll get them challenging again, eventually.

[Whore Jackie]

Rashford might have scored but he still only had 13 touches on the ball.

Being a striker at Utd is a very isolated position.

Nice line from Barney Ronay in The Guardian re Rashford.

Rashford seemed out of sorts in those early moments. That is, he seemed hungry, energised and furiously mobile. He sprinted after lost passes, fouled and harried.

Be amazed if United don't break the bank and get Gyökeres in at some point. Zirkzee looks to be almost as poor a signing as Antony.

[katweslowski]

As a neutral I can't get over just how uninspiring this man united team is.

Also I couldn't believe how many backroom staff were at the game. When it panned over to the new manager, you could see in the background all the other staff wearing official club coats sat together.

I estimate around 15 of them in total.

This just seems that the cycle repeating itself. The entire team needs gutting.

[LUX]

United up to thirteenth.

New era already

[Sutekh]

United up to thirteenth.

New era already

Might be able to mount a challenge for the Conference League next season then.