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[BRO_BOT]

Antony gets Man Of The Match on his Betis debut

just seen the numbers for his game won 1 of his 6 duels, 2 shots etc

his assist* was a shot that the goalkeeper saved but was put away by another player

[From Despair To Where?]

Is that just Betis trolling United?

[6ft Kerplunk]

just seen the numbers for his game won 1 of his 6 duels, 2 shots etc

tbf that is really upping his performance level from how he's been at United.

[Winston Biscuit]

Lisandro Martinez has done his ACL

[BRO_BOT]

The linesperson knew that was a mile off but was fcuked if he was gonna watch another 30 mins of that!

[genome]

How can the Lino not spot that FOUR players are offside

[Ascotexgunner]

How can the Lino not spot that FOUR players are offside

The ironic question being asked to Van Horseface when Fergietime was mentioned and him getting upset and retorting to "lino time"

[Sutekh]

United for the cup then with luck like that.

What I don’t understand though is why VAR is not being used until later in the competition. If the home club has the technology then it should be used. Does the same apply to goal line technology?

[Snowflake Royal]

United for the cup then with luck like that.

What I don’t understand though is why VAR is not being used until later in the competition. If the home club has the technology then it should be used. Does the same apply to goal line technology?

It should either be used everywhere, or not at all. Otherwise its a two tier system.

I get maybe qualifiying stages would be an exception, and it's a lot of games to manage, with some quite poor facilities (this is why you should give lower placed clubs the choice of venues if you want to avoid replays, maybe even get some neutral ones for all lower tier ties with no facility for VAR.

[From Despair To Where?]

Not about United but maybe more evidence to my theory that, when it comes to managing sports teams, Radcliffe really doesn't get it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cn57nvklnypo

[Dirk Gently]

United for the cup then with luck like that.

What I don’t understand though is why VAR is not being used until later in the competition. If the home club has the technology then it should be used. Does the same apply to goal line technology?

It should either be used everywhere, or not at all. Otherwise its a two tier system.

I get maybe qualifiying stages would be an exception, and it's a lot of games to manage, with some quite poor facilities (this is why you should give lower placed clubs the choice of venues if you want to avoid replays, maybe even get some neutral ones for all lower tier ties with no facility for VAR.

I can't understand why they don't use goalline technology either, as in the Wolves v Blackburn game. GLT's in regular use across the EFL and it's hardly controversial. It's just a tool that makes things easier for the ref, and is objective and scientific so quite different to VAR.

Might as well stop referees wearing contact lenses until later rounds of the cup so everyone gets the same level of inaccuracy. .

[Orion1871]

Just watching Real Betis vs Real Sociedad. Betis winning 3-0 with Sociedad down to nine men. There's a lad called Antony playing on the right for Betis who scored and is a constant threat. Perhaps Man United should try to sign him.

[Royal Rother]

United for the cup then with luck like that.

What I don’t understand though is why VAR is not being used until later in the competition. If the home club has the technology then it should be used. Does the same apply to goal line technology?

It should either be used everywhere, or not at all. Otherwise its a two tier system.

Bullshit argument that keeps coming up every few months.

Who gets treated differently if VAR is in place?

[BRO_BOT]

Just watching Real Betis vs Real Sociedad. Betis winning 3-0 with Sociedad down to nine men. There's a lad called Antony playing on the right for Betis who scored and is a constant threat. Perhaps Man United should try to sign him.

He had 18 months to prove he wasn't dogshit, he didn't manage it!

[Snowflake Royal]

United for the cup then with luck like that.

What I don’t understand though is why VAR is not being used until later in the competition. If the home club has the technology then it should be used. Does the same apply to goal line technology?

It should either be used everywhere, or not at all. Otherwise its a two tier system.

Bullshit argument that keeps coming up every few months.

Who gets treated differently if VAR is in place?

Teams playing in the same round of the same competition without VAR.

[Dirk Gently]

It should either be used everywhere, or not at all. Otherwise its a two tier system.

Bullshit argument that keeps coming up every few months.

Who gets treated differently if VAR is in place?

Teams playing in the same round of the same competition without VAR.

But that same thing applies to lots of things in a cup competition. A team playing in a non-league ground will be lacking a lot of things that a team playing in a PL stadium the in the same round of the same competition will have. Decent pitches, larger dressing rooms, better recovery and warm-up facilities, etc etc etc.

That's the beauty of the cup.

[Snowflake Royal]

Bullshit argument that keeps coming up every few months.

Who gets treated differently if VAR is in place?

Teams playing in the same round of the same competition without VAR.

But that same thing applies to lots of things in a cup competition. A team playing in a non-league ground will be lacking a lot of things that a team playing in a PL stadium the in the same round of the same competition will have. Decent pitches, larger dressing rooms, better recovery and warm-up facilities, etc etc etc.

That's the beauty of the cup.

Not officiating.

[Dirk Gently]

Teams playing in the same round of the same competition without VAR.

But that same thing applies to lots of things in a cup competition. A team playing in a non-league ground will be lacking a lot of things that a team playing in a PL stadium the in the same round of the same competition will have. Decent pitches, larger dressing rooms, better recovery and warm-up facilities, etc etc etc.

That's the beauty of the cup.

Not officiating.

All of the match officials are of the same level, but why does it matter if the facilities or aids available to officials are different between different matches?

The teams aren't competing with the others in all the other cup matches like they would in a league. They're only competing against the team that they're playing in that individual cup tie, who will, by definition, have exactly the same conditions, officials and everything else.

So why is this important?

[Snowflake Royal]

But that same thing applies to lots of things in a cup competition. A team playing in a non-league ground will be lacking a lot of things that a team playing in a PL stadium the in the same round of the same competition will have. Decent pitches, larger dressing rooms, better recovery and warm-up facilities, etc etc etc.

That's the beauty of the cup.

Not officiating.

All of the match officials are of the same level, but why does it matter if the facilities or aids available to officials are different between different matches?

The teams aren't competing with the others in all the other cup matches like they would in a league. They're only competing against the team that they're playing in that individual cup tie, who will, by definition, have exactly the same conditions, officials and everything else.

So why is this important?

Ok, you can disagree.

I don't think it is a level playing field for one club to get through to the next round thanks to VAR correcting a mistake whilst another club misses out because there was no VAR to correct a mistake for them. It can affect who one team meets in the next round too.

You wouldn’t have a league/division operating with VAR at some grounds and not others, I see it as the same thing. You don't, that's fine.

[Dirk Gently]

Not officiating.

All of the match officials are of the same level, but why does it matter if the facilities or aids available to officials are different between different matches?

The teams aren't competing with the others in all the other cup matches like they would in a league. They're only competing against the team that they're playing in that individual cup tie, who will, by definition, have exactly the same conditions, officials and everything else.

So why is this important?

Ok, you can disagree.

I don't think it is a level playing field for one club to get through to the next round thanks to VAR correcting a mistake whilst another club misses out because there was no VAR to correct a mistake for them. It can affect who one team meets in the next round too.

You wouldn’t have a league/division operating with VAR at some grounds and not others, I see it as the same thing. You don't, that's fine.

Fair enough.

So you're replacing VAR correcting a mistake whilst another club misses out because there was no VAR to correct a mistake with the potential for mistakes at any match, especially with GLT which is much simpler and more objective than VAR.

In my book it's just the way it is in cup ties. Some are played in swirling wind and rain, some aren't; some are played on non-league mudbaths and some on PL pitches; some are played on a Saturday at 3pm and some on a Tuesday at 8pm; some are played after the draw for the next round is made and some aren't. And each tie is a mini-competition that exists in isolation of all the other matches.