Another finals another load of idiots

[No Fixed Abode]

there is nothing worse in all of sport discussion than people banging on about rugby and comparing it to football.
NOTHING

But why can't many football fans watch a game without acting like a cocknocker? You can still have a laugh without punching anyone's head in, throwing bottles or just generally being an arse.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... ester.html

I was talking Union tbf - I should have specified.

[No Fixed Abode]

STOP MAKING ME AGREE WITH YOU KES.

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

xx

[Zammo]

Hope you enjoyed your walk around a local park or art gallery with your Morrissey headphones on yesterday, Kes?

Proper scenes in the Walkabout. Rammed full of England lads, singing, beer everywhere, celebrations....yet no trouble.

[Uke]

STOP MAKING ME AGREE WITH YOU KES.

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

xx

Get a room!

[No Fixed Abode]

Hope you enjoyed your walk around a local park or art gallery with your Morrissey headphones on yesterday, Kes?

Proper scenes in the Walkabout. Rammed full of England lads, singing, beer everywhere, celebrations....yet no trouble.

Throwing beer everywhere. Wish I was there.

[Maneki Neko]

nice scenes with welsh and english before and even after the game.

[Uke]

Irish fans tidying up after partying in Bordeaux

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 84956.html

[Mr Optimist]

Groups of England fans did the same in Marseille, getting up early to help clean the streets of the rubbish and empty bottles, but the story doesn't fit the media agenda, so got little in the way of publicity.

[tidus_mi2]

Here's the thing, English and Welsh fans pre and post match no trouble. What was the common denominator in the fan troubles involving English fans? The Russians.

[harry]

Irish fans singing to Swedish fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Znw7Da1n6c

[Sutekh]

Groups of England fans did the same in Marseille, getting up early to help clean the streets of the rubbish and empty bottles, but the story doesn't fit the media agenda, so got little in the way of publicity.

Absolutely. Both incidents should be covered well by the media but as you say it doesn't fit the agenda...

[Winston Smith]

Because something isn't reported in the media, doesn't mean it is purposely not reported due to a media agenda. Might just be a sh*t story.

[Scutterbucketz]

Groups of England fans did the same in Marseille, getting up early to help clean the streets of the rubbish and empty bottles, but the story doesn't fit the media agenda, so got little in the way of publicity.

You don't really need the media for things to spread these days. It didn't really show up much on social media either. Not sure why that was. Maybe English fans litter picking just isn't whacky enough.

Am I the only person who finds the Irish fans properly cringeworthy? Admittedly, their behaviour is infinitely preferable to fighting and acting like animals, but it all seems a bit too much like enforced jollity for my tastes.

[Uke]

Groups of England fans did the same in Marseille, getting up early to help clean the streets of the rubbish and empty bottles, but the story doesn't fit the media agenda, so got little in the way of publicity.

You don't really need the media for things to spread these days. It didn't really show up much on social media either. Not sure why that was. Maybe English fans litter picking just isn't whacky enough.

Am I the only person who finds the Irish fans properly cringeworthy? Admittedly, their behaviour is infinitely preferable to fighting and acting like animals, but it all seems a bit too much like enforced jollity for my tastes.

Damn them going over there, with their 'jollity'...

[harry]

Groups of England fans did the same in Marseille, getting up early to help clean the streets of the rubbish and empty bottles, but the story doesn't fit the media agenda, so got little in the way of publicity.

You don't really need the media for things to spread these days. It didn't really show up much on social media either. Not sure why that was. Maybe English fans litter picking just isn't whacky enough.

Am I the only person who finds the Irish fans properly cringeworthy? Admittedly, their behaviour is infinitely preferable to fighting and acting like animals, but it all seems a bit too much like enforced jollity for my tastes.

Damn them going over there, with their 'jollity'...

How dare they cheer that bloke on the balcony, compliment the Swedes on their sexy wives, help the French motorists with the flat tyre, etc, etc
Don't they know they should be fighting in the streets

[Scutterbucketz]

Or a least on the pitch.

[St Pauli]

Interesting contrast between this article and the comments below by people who were in Marseille:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/euro-201 ... the-police

[Hoop Blah]

Interesting contrast between this article and the comments below by people who were in Marseille:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/euro-201 ... the-police

You'll have to point out the interesting contrasts from the two comments from people there (well one who was actually in Marseilles and pretty much agreed with the main point of poor policing, the other one I assume was elsewhere watching Ireland).

[Uke]

Not too much to disagree with here...

You want to know why the English football hooligans are the way they are? Check out their national media. As the England supporters made wreck for two days in Marseille, the English media blamed everyone else for their behaviour. The French police were over-reacting, the local football fans were provoking them, UEFA shouldn't have put them in Marseille because of its 'large North African population', though it was never explained why this would pose a particular problem for the English given that North Africa is one of the few places on the planet they didn't colonise back in the day.

The only problem is that this time the chant of 'come and have a go if you think you're hard enough' drew the attention of another group of fans who did think they were hard enough and were very keen to have a go.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/ ... 13552.html

[St Pauli]

Interesting contrast between this article and the comments below by people who were in Marseille:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/euro-201 ... the-police

You'll have to point out the interesting contrasts from the two comments from people there (well one who was actually in Marseilles and pretty much agreed with the main point of poor policing, the other one I assume was elsewhere watching Ireland).

As already pointed out, the German policing was very, very hands off in 2006. English fans still kicked off. You're wrong, and anyone who was in Marseille and is honest with themselves know's it.