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[Royalclapper]

Sacked via the New York Stock Exchange - long live English football.

[eleventh earl of mar]

[quote="John Madejski's Wallet"]Dimlows.

I wish people would stop harking back to 'this team won the premiership'. Yep, and the players are a year older (plus long term injuries) and the league was dogsh*t last season


Not disagreeing with you but the players at the other teams are also a year older, not just the Utd ones.

[No Fixed Abode]

Dimlows.

I wish people would stop harking back to 'this team won the premiership'. Yep, and the players are a year older (plus long term injuries) and the league was dogsh*t last season


As for the 'he's not proven himself/he's not big enough for ManU', Only in the UK does such arrogance abound. Bigger clubs than Manu appoint managers with less experience. That arrogance is really self defeating for the medium sized clubs in this country, let alone the bigger ones

with the back 4 Liverpool have then the league must be double dogshit this year. How can you quantify a league being shit? I hear it every (EVERY) year about the championship.

Agreed, the league must be terrible this year then. Liverpool winning it, is akin to Montpelier winning the French league a couple or three seasons ago.

[Ian Royal]

Dimlows.

I wish people would stop harking back to 'this team won the premiership'. Yep, and the players are a year older (plus long term injuries) and the league was dogsh*t last season


Not disagreeing with you but the players at the other teams are also a year older, not just the Utd ones.

But they weren't already relying on ancient players. Although a slightly younger terry and lampard would probably have won it for chelsea.

never forget the fear everyone else had of fergie. It's not just internal. No one fears utd anymore. Teams fancy their chances. Refs less intimidated. no more fergie time.

Half the time teams went to old trafford convinced they'd lose before they set foot on the pitch.

[Bandini]

Utd seeing if they can tempt Guardiola
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... fford.html

Manchester United are prepared to make a check on Pep Guardiola before turning to their list of more realistic targets.

Having sacked David Moyes and put Ryan Giggs in temporary charge until the end of the season, United must now identify the club’s long-term successor.

Louis van Gaal is desperate to land the Old Trafford job, but United have been made aware Jurgen Klopp is not interested in the post.

Atlético Madrid coach Diego Simeone has admirers at United, but the Argentine’s lack of English fluency is a major drawback.

Before making a firm approach to Van Gaal, Simeone or another candidate, United are set to make discreet moves to find out whether or not Guardiola could be tempted away from Bayern Munich.

Such a move would be a long-shot, as Guardiola is only 12 months into the three-year deal he signed at Bayern last summer. The Spaniard has already guided the German club to the Bundesliga title and faces Real Madrid in the first leg of the Champions League semi-finals on Wednesday night.

United are aware Guardiola sees United as a club he would eventually like to manage in England and sources suggest he is not entirely happy in Munich and with the influence of former Bayern players at the club.

After leaving Barcelona, Guardiola spent a year-long sabbatical in New York and improved his English. The 43-year-old has confirmed he would like to eventually manage in the Premier League.

Ahead of Bayern’s Champions League quarter-final, Guardiola revealed he may have been offered the chance to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson as United manager before Moyes was given the job, but could not fully understand the Scotsman’s accent.

Guardiola and Ferguson dined together in New York in September 2012 during the former midfielder’s break.

Good to see that they're adopting the same laser-like focus that served them so well in last summer's transfer window.

[Schards#2]

Dimlows.

I wish people would stop harking back to 'this team won the premiership'. Yep, and the players are a year older (plus long term injuries) and the league was dogsh*t last season


As for the 'he's not proven himself/he's not big enough for ManU', Only in the UK does such arrogance abound. Bigger clubs than Manu appoint managers with less experience. That arrogance is really self defeating for the medium sized clubs in this country, let alone the bigger ones

with the back 4 Liverpool have then the league must be double dogshit this year. How can you quantify a league being shit? I hear it every (EVERY) year about the championship.

Agreed, the league must be terrible this year then. Liverpool winning it, is akin to Montpelier winning the French league a couple or three seasons ago.

Liverpool have had a sensational run and have taken advantage of a year when Man Utd being totally out sorts and City and Chelsea throwing points away in easy games.

Fair play to them if they win but I suspect that it will be a one off and they'll be relatively long odds to retain it.

[Sanguine]

Liverpool have had a sensational run and have taken advantage of a year when Man Utd being totally out sorts and City and Chelsea throwing points away in easy games.

Fair play to them if they win but I suspect that it will be a one off and they'll be relatively long odds to retain it.

Agree they won't be favourites to win it next season - but isn't it a bit disingenuous to caveat a potential title with '...throwing points away in easy games.'

I mean, that's how titles are decided, isn't it? It's certainly what has stopped Liverpool challenging in recent years.

On paper, Chelsea and City have 32-34 'easy' games a season.

[No Fixed Abode]

Liverpool have had a sensational run and have taken advantage of a year when Man Utd being totally out sorts and City and Chelsea throwing points away in easy games.

Fair play to them if they win but I suspect that it will be a one off and they'll be relatively long odds to retain it.

Agree they won't be favourites to win it next season - but isn't it a bit disingenuous to caveat a potential title with '...throwing points away in easy games.'

I mean, that's how titles are decided, isn't it? It's certainly what has stopped Liverpool challenging in recent years.

On paper, Chelsea and City have 32-34 'easy' games a season.

Can have no arguments if Liverpool win the league, they look so much fresher having played approx 12 games or so less than City and Chelsea. Plus with 'those' decisions going for you, your name is on the title.

[Sanguine]

Your tears are heart-wrenching.

[No Fixed Abode]

Your tears are heart-wrenching.

No tears here. Just stating facts. Liverpool, less games = Fresher. Decisions = Those decisions you get when you're name is on a trophy. (Happens to other clubs as well you know)

[Sanguine]

Are you BF's m8 from Wigan?

[No Fixed Abode]

Are you BF's m8 from Wigan?

Ah, the victim response. Tick.

[Sanguine]

Are you BF's m8 from Wigan?

Ah, the victim response. Tick.

This makes even less sense than choosing to fcuk your sister.

Literally drowning in your tears m8.

[No Fixed Abode]

Are you BF's m8 from Wigan?

Ah, the victim response. Tick.

This makes even less sense than choosing to fcuk your sister.

Literally drowning in your tears m8.

Definitely rattLOLed with the old personal attack there!

[Schards#2]

Liverpool have had a sensational run and have taken advantage of a year when Man Utd being totally out sorts and City and Chelsea throwing points away in easy games.

Fair play to them if they win but I suspect that it will be a one off and they'll be relatively long odds to retain it.

Agree they won't be favourites to win it next season - but isn't it a bit disingenuous to caveat a potential title with '...throwing points away in easy games.'

I mean, that's how titles are decided, isn't it? It's certainly what has stopped Liverpool challenging in recent years.

On paper, Chelsea and City have 32-34 'easy' games a season.

Yeah, that's fair enough.

I guess I'm trying to say that there won't be many seasons where not one of the big guns really nails it, as has happened this season. Not that that happening is a bad thing.

[Sanguine]

Fwiw (not much, but I like stats), Liverpool can still make 89 points, which would be enough to have won the league in 15 of the 21 Premier League seasons. I'll have a look at the end of the season (I really do like stats), but I think it's more that this season the top three clubs have all nailed it, to some extent.

City could come second with 87 points, which would have been enough to win it in 11 of those 21 seasons.

Only 3 times has a club come 3rd with over 80 points, which all of the top 3 should pass.

[Whatevs]

Fwiw (not much, but I like stats), Liverpool can still make 89 points, which would be enough to have won the league in 15 of the 21 Premier League seasons. I'll have a look at the end of the season (I really do like stats), but I think it's more that this season the top three clubs have all nailed it, to some extent.

City could come second with 87 points, which would have been enough to win it in 11 of those 21 seasons.

Only 3 times has a club come 3rd with over 80 points, which all of the top 3 should pass.

does that point to those teams being really good or a shit league? I have no idea how you decide. I can't help but think that as usual it's somewhere in the middle

EDIT: didn't fully read the sentence after the bracket, just seen it now

[Royal Rother]

Worth remembering (when considering Liverpool's pending achievement) that a couple of months ago it was popular opinion amongst the pundits (spit) that this was shaping up to be the best / highest quality Premier League ever, as so many teams were playing stunning football.

[frimmers3]

does any of the above really matter any more when the holy grail is qualification for the champions cash cow?

[Man Friday]

Man City will win the PL. Liverpool will bottle it.