World Cup Qualification - Brazil 2014

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Wikipedia has Wales listed in the bottom pot.

Indeed, but with the following caveat:

Given the June 2011 FIFA Ranking and results during this month, pot seeding is expected to be as follows.

So nothing concrete yet, hence my point.

[sheshnu]

How many countries in the bottom few (expected) pots have got as many players as Wales who play in one of Europe's top leagues? How have they managed to be so consistently terrible? Admittedly for every Craig Bellamy there's a Jermaine Easter, but their first team surely isn't one of the worst in Europe (on paper).

[papereyes]

How many countries in the bottom few (expected) pots have got as many players as Wales who play in one of Europe's top leagues? How have they managed to be so consistently terrible? Admittedly for every Craig Bellamy there's a Jermaine Easter, but their first team surely isn't one of the worst in Europe (on paper).

They keep on having managers who want to bring the younger players through.

[T.R.O.L.I.]

WaLOLes

The final Fifa world rankings before the 2014 World Cup qualification draw make bad reading for Wales.

Despite climbing two places to 112th, Wales have been overtaken by the Faroe Islands and will be among the sixth and last Uefa seeds in Saturday's draw.

Full story from BBC Sport

[TBM]

Its obvious we will draw France in our group and fail to qualify

[soggy biscuit]

England 6th????

LOL

[Barry the bird boggler]

England 6th????

LOL

I didn't realise we'd got as high as 4th

[roadrunner]

England 6th????

LOL

I didn't realise we'd got as high as 4th

I'm surprised by 6th tbh.

[cmonurz]

Because we don't lose much. And we beat most of the teams we should.

If you think about it, our dismal championship campaigns are based around (in the main) beating or sometimes drawing with lesser teams and then losing one match to a half-decent side. Then we ace qualifying again, then beat some lesser teams, then lose one match to a half-decent side.

[leww_rfc]

oh my days..

What I'd like:
Norway, Slovenia, Belarus, Georgia, Macedonia, Wales

What we'll no doubt end up with (or something along the same lines):
Spain, France, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Finland, Wales

[Tails]

Would it be fair to assume out of WC and WC qualifying, we lost two matches? out of say 15?

[papereyes]

Because we don't lose much. And we beat most of the teams we should.

If you think about it, our dismal championship campaigns are based around (in the main) beating or sometimes drawing with lesser teams and then losing one match to a half-decent side. Then we ace qualifying again, then beat some lesser teams, then lose one match to a half-decent side.

This.

Plus its the best five or six results in a given year, so the worst results are just ignored.

[Compo's Hat]

Think it begins at 11am if i have got the time difference right.

[Stranded]

Think it begins at 11am if i have got the time difference right.

That would mean a 7am start in Rio, so not sure that's right.

[Compo's Hat]

Think it begins at 11am if i have got the time difference right.

That would mean a 7am start in Rio, so not sure that's right.

Ah bollocks, got it the wrong way round. 7pm UK time

[PEARCEY]

oh my days..

What I'd like:
Norway, Slovenia, Belarus, Georgia, Macedonia, Wales

What we'll no doubt end up with (or something along the same lines):
Spain, France, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Finland, Wales

Give up leww. I have. Even in that first group Wales would comfortably finish bottom.

[PEARCEY]

WaLOLes

The final Fifa world rankings before the 2014 World Cup qualification draw make bad reading for Wales.

Despite climbing two places to 112th, Wales have been overtaken by the Faroe Islands and will be among the sixth and last Uefa seeds in Saturday's draw.

Full story from BBC Sport

Grrrrr....................

[PEARCEY]

How many countries in the bottom few (expected) pots have got as many players as Wales who play in one of Europe's top leagues? How have they managed to be so consistently terrible? Admittedly for every Craig Bellamy there's a Jermaine Easter, but their first team surely isn't one of the worst in Europe (on paper).

Injuries to our few good players, Ramsey, Bale and Collison haven't helped. The premature retirement of the likes of Giggs and even Savage made matters worse...but really its inexcusable to be as dire as this. The only way is up

[SpaceCruiser]

oh my days..

What I'd like:
Norway, Slovenia, Belarus, Georgia, Macedonia, Wales

What we'll no doubt end up with (or something along the same lines):
Spain, France, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Finland, Wales

I would love to see France in a very hard group. It's about time they got knocked out at the qualifying stage and it'd be appropriate for how they cheated to get to the last World Cup.

[Compo's Hat]

How has Norway got into pot 1?