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Would you rather be?

Reading
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Southampton
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Re: S8nts

by Victor Meldrew » 19 Jan 2013 13:03

Royal Rother I guess one either has to just accept that the last traces of the concept of loyalty in football have disappeared and / or fall out of love with the pro game a little bit more.

The point is that the owners / funders of the club have given Adkins what was needed for him to do the great job that he undoubtedly has done, paid him the wages to set him up for life, and establish himself as a fine manager who will now be in demand, so they have the absolute right to do what the hell they want in their quest to establish the club as a proper Premier League "contender".

So sympathy for Adkins is probably misplaced but hell, it don't half stink to me.

And I really really struggle to see how this guy is nailed on to do a better job than Adkins which surely must be the justification in their minds for making the move.

Falling out of love with the pro game is a long and very gradual process but at least Reading FC appears to be run with an underpinning ethos that is out of step with much of its competitors and will give me something to feel a tiny bit proud of from my armchair and the terracing at Windsor FC.


That's until McDermott gets the sack. :wink:
BTW not much has been said about O'Driscoll getting sacked by Forest.
Regrettably your point about "loyalty" doesn't just apply to pro football,it applies to life generally as well as in sport and IMHO one of the sadder aspects of our ever-changing world.

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Re: S8nts

by Royal Rother » 19 Jan 2013 13:11

Last week you said we were "saddled with Brian for the rest of the season" after beating WBA, this week you think he'll be under threat again if we lose to Newcastle.

Make your mind up.

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Re: S8nts

by leicsRoyal » 19 Jan 2013 13:26

Fantastic decision to get rid of Adkins.

I think Adkins had enough about him to keep Saints up. The new guy may have but hopefully not.

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Re: S8nts

by Big Ern » 19 Jan 2013 14:04

leicsRoyal Fantastic decision to get rid of Adkins.

I think Adkins had enough about him to keep Saints up. The new guy may have but hopefully not.


The new guy can't even speak English and has no experience of this league.

I think Southampton will capitulate now and have given us a chance

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Re: S8nts

by Victor Meldrew » 19 Jan 2013 14:43

Royal Rother Last week you said we were "saddled with Brian for the rest of the season" after beating WBA, this week you think he'll be under threat again if we lose to Newcastle.

Make your mind up.


A week to dwell on it and I was in Southampton yesterday when their news broke (no relevance really other than when stuck in traffic for hours I had more time to think about managerial matters with much discussion on the radio).
I think our owner might be influenced by the decision made by Saints and previously by QPR.
A win today and Brian will surely still be our manager whereas a defeat makes him vulnerable.
I am flattered that you take so much notice of whatever I post and take the time and trouble to go hunting for such posts. :wink:


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Re: Southampton Sack Adkins, new manager Mauricio Pochettino

by royalsteve » 19 Jan 2013 15:58

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Niko Why is this in the "Rumours and Gossip" part of the Team board when it relates to neither...?


so where do you suggest it goes then, durr



viewtopic.php?f=3&t=107055&start=1300
The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013

Maybe here? Durr :roll:


talk about thick, so how do you navigate to that from the ome page moron!

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Re: Southampton Sack Adkins, new manager Mauricio Pochettino

by SCIAG » 19 Jan 2013 16:24

Scroll down and click on "General Football"?

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Re: Southampton Sack Adkins, new manager Mauricio Pochettino

by royaldownunder » 19 Jan 2013 17:21

royalsteve
talk about thick, so how do you navigate to that from the ome page moron!


Oh dear, I will try to explain this as simply as I can as it seems you are a few brain cells short:
Firstly you have posted this in the section for "Reading football club" rather than "Wider world of football and sport" where it should be...
Last I heard Mr Adkins wasn't on the RFC radar.

Here's how to navigate to my link from the "ome page"
1. Go to "Ome page"
2. Click on "General football" in the "Wider world of football and sport" section.
3. Go to "The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round 2012/2013" thread and amaze everyone with your rapier wit and insightful opinions.

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Re: S8nts

by Royal Rother » 19 Jan 2013 18:01

I remember stuff, but yeah, you should be flattered!


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Re: Southampton Sack Adkins, new manager Mauricio Pochettino

by Ian Royal » 19 Jan 2013 19:43

So, he takes them to back to back promotions and they are currently clear of the relegation zone, which is the best they can really hope for this season. And they sack him!? That's criminal.

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Re: S8nts

by Cypry » 19 Jan 2013 19:47

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Royal Rother Last week you said we were "saddled with Brian for the rest of the season" after beating WBA, this week you think he'll be under threat again if we lose to Newcastle.

Make your mind up.


A week to dwell on it and I was in Southampton yesterday when their news broke (no relevance really other than when stuck in traffic for hours I had more time to think about managerial matters with much discussion on the radio).
I think our owner might be influenced by the decision made by Saints and previously by QPR.
A win today and Brian will surely still be our manager whereas a defeat makes him vulnerable.
I am flattered that you take so much notice of whatever I post and take the time and trouble to go hunting for such posts. :wink:


I think people underestimate how close Brian and Anton have got - strikes me that Anton is (for some reason) a bit star struck with Brian - I can see Anton being very loyal to Brian regardless of results, and I'd go so far as to say I expect Brian to still be at the helm next year even if we are relegated....

The grass isn't always greener, as Mr Cortese might believe....

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Re: S8nts

by AthleticoSpizz » 19 Jan 2013 20:07

Victor Meldrew Interesting to read the comments on here where NOBODY feels that Saints have made the right decision.
It has been expected down here for the past 2 years and is no surprise-Adkins and Cortese have never got on.
What is something of a surprise is how long it has taken to happpen and the timing although of course they earlier sacked Pardew after a 4-0 away win!!.

Despite what an earlier poster said Espanyol didn't sack him,he resigned because it was a club going nowhere and selling it's best players.
The new assistant speaks fluent English and the new manager already speaks Spanish,Italian and Portugese so English will probably come easy to him.
Apparently he and his assitant have been following what has been happening in the Premier League for some time-it's not as if everything will be brand new and after all football and football-speak are quite universal.
Let's hope he doesn't bring in any decent Spanish players like Laudrup has or they might soon be out of reach for us.

As with most on here I don't reallly care what happens to Saints but from a Reading perspective I think today's game at Newcastle is massive.
Win it and Newcastle get dragged into the relegation mix,lose it and Newcastle join Saints as a club drrawing away from us.
If we lose I do think Brian's job is under threat with just 12 days of the transfer window to go and I wonder if our fans will be as outraged as Saints' fans are about Adkins and if those Saints' fans would be as outraged as our fans posting in this topic about Brian if he were to get the chop.


http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/it ... ino-sacked

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Re: S8nts

by Cypry » 19 Jan 2013 20:33

After today I can see a possibility that Adkins could well end up at Newcastle in the not too distant future...Pardew seems to be taking them one way...


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Re: S8nts

by Ian Royal » 20 Jan 2013 01:48

I genuinely don't understand all the hate for Adkins and the descriptions of smugness. I can only assume it's from people who can't tell the difference between smugness and things like intelligence, competence and being articulate.

I'd have him at Reading in a nanosecond if McDermott were to leave. Baffling decision by the Saints owner.

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Re: S8nts

by Ian Royal » 20 Jan 2013 01:51

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leicsRoyal Fantastic decision to get rid of Adkins.

I think Adkins had enough about him to keep Saints up. The new guy may have but hopefully not.


The new guy can't even speak English and has no experience of this league.

I think Southampton will capitulate now and have given us a chance

WTF has speaking English got to do with being a good manager! Have someone reliable who can translate and it's a minor stumbling block at most.

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Re: Southampton Sack Adkins, new manager Mauricio Pochettino

by Royal Bahamas » 20 Jan 2013 02:23

Ian Royal So, he takes them to back to back promotions and they are currently clear of the relegation zone, which is the best they can really hope for this season. And they sack him!? That's criminal.


I think that you can safely say that he will be the hottest Managerial Property in Britain, for any team currently looking for a Manager. He'll have his pick.....and it will probably be a Premier Team.

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Re: S8nts

by Royal Rother » 20 Jan 2013 08:13

Ian Royal I genuinely don't understand all the hate for Adkins and the descriptions of smugness. I can only assume it's from people who can't tell the difference between smugness and things like intelligence, competence and being articulate.


My thoughts entirely!

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Re: S8nts

by Royal Rother » 20 Jan 2013 08:18

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leicsRoyal Fantastic decision to get rid of Adkins.

I think Adkins had enough about him to keep Saints up. The new guy may have but hopefully not.


The new guy can't even speak English and has no experience of this league.

I think Southampton will capitulate now and have given us a chance

WTF has speaking English got to do with being a good manager!


I feel a little dirty but Ern is right - communication is a significant factor. Apart from tactical nuances and everything that goes with communication, the impact of important motivational speeches pre-games is bound to be diluted if coming through a translator.

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Re: Southampton Sack Adkins, new manager Mauricio Pochettino

by RFCSPACE » 20 Jan 2013 08:41

Royal Bahamas
Ian Royal So, he takes them to back to back promotions and they are currently clear of the relegation zone, which is the best they can really hope for this season. And they sack him!? That's criminal.


I think that you can safely say that he will be the hottest Managerial Property in Britain, for any team currently looking for a Manager. He'll have his pick.....and it will probably be a Premier Team.


I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Cardiff, Leicester or Crystal Palace ditch their respective manager and sign him up.

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Re: S8nts

by frimmers3 » 20 Jan 2013 09:10

it has been my experience to date that no matter how limited the english language available to a non native is,said have no troubles interpreting their wage packets.

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