Olympic football

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I'm pretty sure that Frimpong has now declared for Ghana and so wouldn't have been eligable (similar to Victor Moses who, having played for England through all the age groups is now Nigerian).

EP, if you read what I actually wrote, instead of what you wanted me to write, you'll see that I was being critical of Pearce through his u21s selections as well as Team GB.

Inspite of that misquoting, I do still question some of his selections. I can't see the point of having Rose (how has he earnt consideration?), Bertrand and Taylor in an 18 man squad, especially when the squad doesn't include one right back as Richards is clearly there as a centre half (if I was selecting the squad I'd have had Kyle Naughton in there instead of Rose so that I had a natural right back). I can't really see the justification of Cork or Tompkins either. I'd have probably taken an experienced centre half as one of the overaged players as well.

Jesus - what the f/ck, man? Are you f/cking on or something? I'm talking about the Team GB part of your post you mixy f/cking rabbit - I just removed the U21 part because I haven't followed them as closely.

And I don’t want you to write anything, other than perhaps “guys, guys, this is goodbye, I’ve swallowed all my mums hormone tablets that she takes so she doesn’t have really dark arm hair and in an hour I’ll be f/cking dead.”

oxf*rd man, I only asked you a bloody question.

[TBM]

Kinda ruined the deb8 with that ^^ reply though m8

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Hardly a shining exchange of ideas to begin with, to be fair.

[Hoop Blah]

If you don't want a reply, don't ask a question.

If you don't want me to point out where you're quoting and questioning is misrepresenting my post and asking me to argue a point I haven't really made, then don't misquote my post.

As it stands I think he's made some poor selections in the Team GB squad, but probably not to the extent of the strange team selections he's made in both this role and the u21s.

[who are ya?]

I'm pretty sure that Frimpong has now declared for Ghana and so wouldn't have been eligable (similar to Victor Moses who, having played for England through all the age groups is now Nigerian).

EP, if you read what I actually wrote, instead of what you wanted me to write, you'll see that I was being critical of Pearce through his u21s selections as well as Team GB.

Inspite of that misquoting, I do still question some of his selections. I can't see the point of having Rose (how has he earnt consideration?), Bertrand and Taylor in an 18 man squad, especially when the squad doesn't include one right back as Richards is clearly there as a centre half (if I was selecting the squad I'd have had Kyle Naughton in there instead of Rose so that I had a natural right back). I can't really see the justification of Cork or Tompkins either. I'd have probably taken an experienced centre half as one of the overaged players as well.

Jesus - what the f/ck, man? Are you f/cking on or something? I'm talking about the Team GB part of your post you mixy f/cking rabbit - I just removed the U21 part because I haven't followed them as closely.

And I don’t want you to write anything, other than perhaps “guys, guys, this is goodbye, I’ve swallowed all my mums hormone tablets that she takes so she doesn’t have really dark arm hair and in an hour I’ll be f/cking dead.”

oxf*rd man, I only asked you a bloody question.

RattLOLed

[PieEater]

Tbf Rose has been uttershit.

[cmonurz]

We're better than Brazil!

The women at least. Great victory. Genuine medal contenders.

[Wax Jacket]

Genuine medal contenders.

I don't think it's fanciful to think both teams could get medals. would be quite exciting.

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As it stands I think he's made some poor selections in the Team GB squad

And that is all I said you said. But this Rain Man conversation has rather killed my enthusiasm for an answer to a genuine question.

[Hoop Blah]

As it stands I think he's made some poor selections in the Team GB squad

And that is all I said you said. But this Rain Man conversation has rather killed my enthusiasm for an answer to a genuine question.

No, what you said was that there weren't better players than the ones he selected, which wasn't the point I was making until you rearranged the words in my post.

I have to agree that Pearce isn't cut out for management.

The [players] he's picked for Team GB just don't make any sense. He selects some very average players.

Not sure I follow.

Butland, Bertrand, Richards, Cleverley, Allen, Giggs, Ramsey, Sinclair, Sturridge, and Bellamy are shoe-ins. The remaining few are as good as anyone else available.

Can't think of anyone obvious he’s left out... Don’t say David c/nting Beckham.

Although I'd argue Rose doesn't warrant inclusion, the point I was making with Team GB was that he didn't pick the right balance for such a small squad, not that he was leaving out a load of 'obvious' selections or failing to pick the 'shoe-ins'.

That's probably where you failed to follow the original point and got a little confused.

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No, what you said was that there weren't better players than the ones he selected, which wasn't the point I was making until you rearranged the words in my post.

I didn’t rearrange anything. I removed U21’s from the sentence. I wasn't even arguing for the record. I genuinely wondered who he might have left out. Had no idea asking you the question would back you into a corner.

Although I'd argue Rose doesn't warrant inclusion, the point I was making with Team GB was that he didn't pick the right balance for such a small squad.

Then you didn't make your point very clearly by saying the team he picked for this GB team doesn't make any sense and that he selected some very average players, which I took to mean his selection was wrong.

So you meant 'balance' by that? Ok. You've still only offered Rose up as an example of whatever point you are supposed to be making.

[Hoop Blah]

No, I offered up the fact that he hasn't got a right back in the squad as a fundemental flaw and that potentially I would've taken an experienced centre half as one of my over aged players. Again, it's not so much about the players in the squad but the balance of the team and supporting players.

As I orgininally said though, my feelings towards Pearce are based on his u21s management as well as Team GB. His mis-handling of the u21s at times has a far greater impact on my opinion of his than this one off squad selection which, to be fair to Pearce, was hampered by the injuries to Hodgsons squad players as well as some that might've been in the Olympics.

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No, I offered up the fact that he hasn't got a right back in the squad as a fundemental flaw and that potentially I would've taken an experienced centre half as one of my over aged players.

Eh? Micah Richards is a RB.

He could have taken Rio I guess, but it's not a stretch of the imagination that Pearce, like many, rates Richards higher and saw him as a flexible RB/CB option valuable to a small squad.

Like I said, your criticism of the U21's may be valid, but I'm not all that sure he has done much wrong as far as Team GB is concerned and you haven't really given much to change that opinion.

[Hoop Blah]

Richards has only played one of the three games at right back though. The others he's played at centre back.

Who's played right back in the other 2 of those games, a right back? Nope, two quite left footed fullbacks in Bertrand and Taylor.

If Richards was there as the right back then play him there. If he's there as a centre back, then take a right back. If Richards is there as a versatile rb/cb then why take all of Caulker, Tomkins and Dawson as well in an 18 man squad without another right back?

[Ian Royal]

Sturridge really is just a little bit of a ball greedy git. Just don't like him very much, despite his undeniable talent.

Team GB could easily have lost that by 3 goals through stupid mistakes. So it's a good result.

[Handsome Man]

Nice passing and we're not slow: it looks good!

I can't help comparing with England. We didn;t have anybody as good as Cleverly, Sturridge or Richards at the Euros and this goalie is outplaying Hart at the moment.

[Hoop Blah]

As much as I like Richards (at right back) I don't think you could say he's looked too great for Team GB. He's been caught out far too many times and his switching off and drifting out of position/bad decisions have contributed to giving chances away. In contrast Terry and Lescott were pretty outstanding at the Euros.

Cleverly looked very good tonight and he and Allen with Ramsey in front of them looked a better combination than when Giggs has played. It's true we didn't have anyone like him in the Senior side, but of he and Wilshire had been fit then we almost certainly would've done.

Sturridge hasn't quite learnt how best to use his talents yet but I've got high hopes for him.

Although he's not a natural right back, Taylor had a very good game tonight, especially going forward and linking up well with Bellamy.

[Ian Royal]

Yeah, been impressed with the passing from Allen, Ramsay and Cleverly. Offer a completely different dimension to England's senior team. They've faded quite badly towards the end of games. Richards and thewhole defence has left itself gaping on far too many occasions.

[soggy biscuit]

Sturridge with quite possibly the worst miss I have ever seen

[Pepe the Horseman]

Ramsey has been our stand out player in the last two games in my opinion. Hopefully rumours of him being loaned out are bollox, think he'll be back to his best this season.