World Cup Play-Offs

[Barry the bird boggler]

LOL at the usual "why don't we have goaline technology" argument on SKY last night

Er, hello no we shouldn't, stuff like this happens, its part and parcel of the game you just have to handle it and get on with life - it is only a GAME after all!

More importanly how does France's qualification effect Engalnd's seeding for the draw in a couple of weeks; pot 1 or 2?

[TBM]

On the calls for video replays, where would you draw the line though?

As said it should be for the ref to use only....if he's 100% sure he has the decision correct then it shouldn't be used but if he's undecided then a quick radio up to the video man can clear things up. It should only be used for things like diving for penalties and goals being scored - not decisions that MAY lead up to a goal.

[Sun Tzu]

Given some of the absolutely stupid comments made by Matt Holland throughout the game I have no regard for anything he says about the goal.

[Stranded]

Like paps, a from me at whoever wrote it was marginal, in fact that replay suggest that there was definite movement of the arm for the first handball, never mind the second, which isn't actually so clear from that angle.

Ha ! it was a somewhat tongue in cheek comment !
It was a handball (talk of 'two' handballs is pointless really although the second movement is the more convincing one).

I'm bemused by the comment about officials getting every decision 'right'. it won;t happen ever. Officials make hundreds of decisions during a game (possibly thousands). They make them from a fixed point and often make several simultaneously. They won;t get them all right.

The one last night wasn't an error by the officials. They simply couldn't have seen it. None of them would have seen it and decided it wasn;t handball.

I hope this doesn't take us off down the road of video replays again. It would destroy the game. I've also heard people suggesting managers should be able to challenge two decisions per half. Obviously using the huge success that introducing that into cricket as the basis for that one !

I feel really sorry for the Irish, they deserved better (although not much better given their inability to score more than once in 210 minutes !). There have been many far more 'unfair' incidents but for it to happen so late in such a key game must have been a real sickener. I would have loved them to have been in S Africa if only to have had Doyle /Hunt / Hunt / Long / O'Dea to follow.

Does work well in tennis and American Football though.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

LOL at the usual "why don't we have goaline technology" argument on SKY last night

Er, hello no we shouldn't, stuff like this happens, its part and parcel of the game you just have to handle it and get on with life - it is only a GAME after all!

More importanly how does France's qualification effect Engalnd's seeding for the draw in a couple of weeks; pot 1 or 2?

Unbeleivably, Portugal and France can move up the World rankings based on their play off wins. Despite the fact that they only played the game due to being shit.

And that anti English racist Jack Warner has a say in the format for seeding.

Say no more.

Having said that, i dont really see the difference it makes. If England cant get through the group stage, whoever they play, it means they aint good enough. If they do get through a tough group, they will be better set for the rest of the tournament.

[Sun Tzu]

Not sure it works well in tennis. I don't watch huge amounts but what I have seen tends to include many challenges designed more to break up the game than actually question a call. It's also really different in an individual sport with play that is very compartmentalised. Replaying a point in tennis is straightforward, working out how on earth you would deal with a challenge based on a free kick not being awarded would be hard.

American football is also more 'play' orientated so possible easier to implement a challenge system. I'm not that up on the rules but suspect they are much more like rugby (ie pretty much fact based) whereas the laws of football are very dependent on the opinions of the official and require interpretation based on judgement of intent.

[Thaumagurist*]

To those who have given me abuse - I wasn't watching the game, I was having a curry. So fook off.

[Thaumagurist*]

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[No Fixed Abode]

Still, In O'Neills in Reading - I expect to see the old "We'll be supporting the Ivory Coast as they have the same flag as us posters"

[TBM]

Henry, I felt, was a beacon of fair play during his time in the Premier League.

Even after his comedy dive against Spain in WC2006 that lead to a goal?

Exactly, what a crock of shit when people claim Henry's always been a fair player, when he's really a dirty cheating oxf*rd.

LOL

[TBM]

Still, In O'Neills in Reading - I expect to see the old "We'll be supporting the Ivory Coast as they have the same flag as us posters"

You mean they wont be supporting England?

[No Fixed Abode]

Still, In O'Neills in Reading - I expect to see the old "We'll be supporting the Ivory Coast as they have the same flag as us posters"

You mean they wont be supporting England?

Nope. The Irish weren't on our side in the War, so I don't expect them to support us at football. At least France were on our side.

Still I'm lol'ing at those Irish fans in Temple bar back in 2004 who wore Franch shirts when they beat England......

[Sun Tzu]

Still, In O'Neills in Reading - I expect to see the old "We'll be supporting the Ivory Coast as they have the same flag as us posters"

You mean they wont be supporting England?

Nope. The Irish weren't on our side in the War,.

That will come as a bit of a shock to a lot of people....

[papereyes]

At least France were on our side.

Is that, like, a joke?

[No Fixed Abode]

At least France were on our side.

Is that, like, a joke?

[Alan Partridge]

Henry, I felt, was a beacon of fair play during his time in the Premier League.

Even after his comedy dive against Spain in WC2006 that lead to a goal?

Exactly, what a crock of shit when people claim Henry's always been a fair player, when he's really a dirty cheating oxf*rd.

time to change the avataROFL.

IreLOLand.

[Hoop Blah]

On the calls for video replays, where would you draw the line though?

As said it should be for the ref to use only....if he's 100% sure he has the decision correct then it shouldn't be used but if he's undecided then a quick radio up to the video man can clear things up. It should only be used for things like diving for penalties and goals being scored - not decisions that MAY lead up to a goal.

Then your just opening it up to more judgement and opinion though and once you've introduced it for goals then the pressure will be there to stretch that to the next level of incidents/decisions etc and it won't be long before it creeps into other areas.

Imagine the pressure the ref would be under from players and managers to review every decision he makes.

I just don't think it's workable, and, to be honest, the element of error makes the game interesting!

[TBM]

time to change the avataROFL.

IreLOLand.

Who wants this one?

[soggy biscuit]

time to change the avataROFL.

IreLOLand.

Who wants this one?

LOL!

[TFF]