Brendan Rogers

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Don't have too many issues with the guy over RFC (wrong manager at wrong club, has now worked out well for both), I just find myself getting angry when he's interviewed.

His complete over-confidence, and total, utter inability to be honest when his team have played sh*te. I think that's really what killed it for me when he was at Reading. No matter how rubbish we'd been we were always "brilliant" and we always "deserved to win" and he was always "proud". That just gives me no confidence in someone.

Honesty please

[SLAMMED]

Don't have too many issues with the guy over RFC (wrong manager at wrong club, has now worked out well for both), I just find myself getting angry when he's interviewed.

His complete over-confidence, and total, utter inability to be honest when his team have played sh*te. I think that's really what killed it for me when he was at Reading. No matter how rubbish we'd been we were always "brilliant" and we always "deserved to win" and he was always "proud". That just gives me no confidence in someone.

Honesty please

Don't forget that after every defeat 'we learned a lesson' and would take it into our next game.

[Royal Rother]

Interesting that Rodgers gets stick for signing Mills - who was his Chief Scout at that time?

[Wimb]

Interesting that Rodgers gets stick for signing Mills - who was his Chief Scout at that time?

Don't think it was the signing that people have an issue with, it was the fact he managed to fall out with his record signing at a time we needed all the help we could get.

Brian showed you can get a decent player out of him if you manage his ego well and make sure the rest of the team around him is OK and grounded.

Rodgers had a 3 year plan to get us back up... it's taken us three years to get up, would Rodgers have done it? probably not, but I wouldn't have been shocked if he'd turned it around fairly sharpish after a nervy relegation battle in 09/10.

Doesn't matter now and both Reading and Swansea fans are both very happy from how things panned out. Nice to see a lot of the animosity from certain Reading fans has disappeared though and they can at least respect the fact he's always had Reading close to his heart and genuinely cares for the club...

Still hope we stuff the b*stards next season

[Ian Royal]

Interesting that Rodgers gets stick for signing Mills - who was his Chief Scout at that time?

Don't think it was the signing that people have an issue with, it was the fact he managed to fall out with his record signing at a time we needed all the help we could get.

Brian showed you can get a decent player out of him if you manage his ego well and make sure the rest of the team around him is OK and grounded.

Rodgers had a 3 year plan to get us back up... it's taken us three years to get up, would Rodgers have done it? probably not, but I wouldn't have been shocked if he'd turned it around fairly sharpish after a nervy relegation battle in 09/10.

Doesn't matter now and both Reading and Swansea fans are both very happy from how things panned out. Nice to see a lot of the animosity from certain Reading fans has disappeared though and they can at least respect the fact he's always had Reading close to his heart and genuinely cares for the club...

Still hope we stuff the b*stards next season

If he hadn't got sacked and IF we hadn't gone down, I think he'd have done a very good job for us. The problem is, that "IF" is huge. It really was looking like being very close at absolute best.

[sandman]

Just proclaimed Rooney as player of the year and that he's ''Up there with Messi''.

[comeonyouroyals]

Just proclaimed Rooney as player of the year and that he's ''Up there with Messi''.

To be fair everyone is bumming Van Persie saying he is world class yet Rooney has scored one less this season and isn't close to his top form at the moment, all though he isn't in Messi and Ronaldos bracket he is still world class

[floyd__streete]

His complete over-confidence, and total, utter inability to be honest when his team have played sh*te. I think that's really what killed it for me when he was at Reading. No matter how rubbish we'd been we were always "brilliant" and we always "deserved to win" and he was always "proud". That just gives me no confidence in someone.

Yeah tbh agreed with this. There is something about him in his interviews and media appearances (see MOTD2 yesteday) which is both simultaneously a little bland and a little shifty. I don't hugely warm to him. He is much-hyped as the next big thing in management but I have this gut-feeling that he won't end up being the managerial great people seem to be touting him as lately.

[Alan Partridge]

His complete over-confidence, and total, utter inability to be honest when his team have played sh*te. I think that's really what killed it for me when he was at Reading. No matter how rubbish we'd been we were always "brilliant" and we always "deserved to win" and he was always "proud". That just gives me no confidence in someone.

Yeah tbh agreed with this. There is something about him in his interviews and media appearances (see MOTD2 yesteday) which is both simultaneously a little bland and a little shifty. I don't hugely warm to him. He is much-hyped as the next big thing in management but I have this gut-feeling that he won't end up being the managerial great people seem to be touting him as lately.

As much as I like Swansea it is all a bit cringe worthy how everyone in the media has creamed themselves stupid over them, as if what they are doing is all part of some Rodgers masterstroke. They've been playing like this for 5 years. This is what Martinez had them doing and had he stayed I have no doubts the next year they would have made the top 6. Now he's been at Wigan a while and they've got the players to play similarly they are doing what his Swansea sides used to do. Rodgers does have a similar philosophy in terms of posession football and 4-5-1/4-3-3 setup to Martinez which was why he was so perfectly suited to the Swansea job. He didn't have to change anything. They already had the best defense in the league, they already played the system, they already passed the ball for fun. What they didn't have was a cutting edge once Scotland was sold off. Rodgers improved the final 3rd with Sinclair, think he brought Leon Britton back? This year he's bought an excellent keeper, got a couple of excellent loans in Caulker/Sigurdsson and got another good striker in with Graham. He's bought very well this year but still the main guts of their team is the one Martinez had all those years ago.

They've done tremendously well, I felt of the 3 they were the best suited to stay up because I felt they had a good side already with pace in bucketloads and a solid defense. But seriously you'd have thought they invented passing the ball if you switched on to MOTD, whose complete lack of football awareness in this country is shown up by the fact they've only just realised Swansea are quite a good footballing side.

The QPR match was still evidence to me that when plan A doesn't work then they are in trouble, I thought they were really tediously awful and reminded me of Reading under him. They will have a test next season as teams work them out, having said that with how awful the Premier League is I believe they will have enough to stay up again. It will be tougher for them though.

[wolsey]

His complete over-confidence, and total, utter inability to be honest when his team have played sh*te. I think that's really what killed it for me when he was at Reading. No matter how rubbish we'd been we were always "brilliant" and we always "deserved to win" and he was always "proud". That just gives me no confidence in someone.

Yeah tbh agreed with this. There is something about him in his interviews and media appearances (see MOTD2 yesteday) which is both simultaneously a little bland and a little shifty. I don't hugely warm to him. He is much-hyped as the next big thing in management but I have this gut-feeling that he won't end up being the managerial great people seem to be touting him as lately.

As much as I like Swansea it is all a bit cringe worthy how everyone in the media has creamed themselves stupid over them, as if what they are doing is all part of some Rodgers masterstroke. They've been playing like this for 5 years. This is what Martinez had them doing and had he stayed I have no doubts the next year they would have made the top 6. Now he's been at Wigan a while and they've got the players to play similarly they are doing what his Swansea sides used to do. Rodgers does have a similar philosophy in terms of posession football and 4-5-1/4-3-3 setup to Martinez which was why he was so perfectly suited to the Swansea job. He didn't have to change anything. They already had the best defense in the league, they already played the system, they already passed the ball for fun. What they didn't have was a cutting edge once Scotland was sold off. Rodgers improved the final 3rd with Sinclair, think he brought Leon Britton back? This year he's bought an excellent keeper, got a couple of excellent loans in Caulker/Sigurdsson and got another good striker in with Graham. He's bought very well this year but still the main guts of their team is the one Martinez had all those years ago.

They've done tremendously well, I felt of the 3 they were the best suited to stay up because I felt they had a good side already with pace in bucketloads and a solid defense. But seriously you'd have thought they invented passing the ball if you switched on to MOTD, whose complete lack of football awareness in this country is shown up by the fact they've only just realised Swansea are quite a good footballing side.

The QPR match was still evidence to me that when plan A doesn't work then they are in trouble, I thought they were really tediously awful and reminded me of Reading under him. They will have a test next season as teams work them out, having said that with how awful the Premier League is I believe they will have enough to stay up again. It will be tougher for them though.

Agreed, yet to be convinced that Rodgers isn't a one trick pony. When he was with us he needed to have change management (as well as man management) skills which he didn't have.

Still, Management change worked wonderfully for us, and he found a made to measure team in Swansea (still think that they will struggle next season, and I still struggle to like his media persona)

[Wax Jacket]

I would say Rodgers is a better one-trick pony than Martinez, looking at the table

[soggy biscuit]

As much as I like Swansea it is all a bit cringe worthy how everyone in the media has creamed themselves stupid over them, as if what they are doing is all part of some Rodgers masterstroke. They've been playing like this for 5 years.

+1

It's as if everyone has forgotten how praised Swansea were for their style of football when Martinez was there.

[Hoop Blah]

Agree with most of what has been said above about the progression of Martinez' side, however, there isn't really any doubt that Rodgers managed to take it further and that takes good management.

Not only did he get more out of some of the players they already had, but he made a couple of very astute additions to the side. Also, if it was that easy to pick up the baton after the good work put in place by Martinez then surely Sousa would've taken them up.

There is something easy to dislike about his manner in interviews though, but even Dellor used to say that in person he was quite impressive and inspiring.

[Royal Rother]

I would say Rodgers is a better one-trick pony than Martinez, looking at the table

KA-bleedin-BOOM!

[Silver Fox]

Also, if it was that easy to pick up the baton after the good work put in place by Martinez then surely Sousa would've taken them up.

An excellent point

[Alan Partridge]

I would say Rodgers is a better one-trick pony than Martinez, looking at the table

A lot tougher for Martinez changing Wigan's style to the one he wants and making it effective. He's basically doing what Rodgers tried to do at Reading, only he's been given the time to make it work. Probably because he's not an arrogant pr!ck.

[Alan Partridge]

Sousa failed because they didn't continue the same way, they went more defensive and they lost one or two players from the MArtinez regime which he didn't replace well, and yet Swansea were still around the higher end of the table before he went off to Leicester. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Rodgers hasn't done well with swansea, he has done really well. But everything was already there for him to be succesfull. There was no debt, no pressure to sell players like at Reading, they had no massive immediate expectation, they had players that suited his style of play and he inherited what was already a half decent side. The only thing Swansea didn't have was a goalscorer and a bit more cutting edge which he solved to his credit with Sinclair. He's bought very well this year and they've carried on their momentum from last year.

[marcusopp]

See liverpool have just appointed him!
I reckon he'll suck big time.

He did well at swansea because he continued what martinez had started, he doesn't have any foundations at liverpool to start from.

[Maguire]

Liverpool now are better than Swansea when Rodgers took over m8

[Royal With Cheese]

It's a brave decision for him to go. I didn't think he had the balls but fair play to him for giving it a go.