The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Winston Smith » 12 Feb 2015 15:42

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Feb 2015 16:48

Paul Buckle sacked by 'nam

After just 11 eleven weeks

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by Pepe the Horseman » 14 Feb 2015 16:35

West Ham fans singing 'fcuk off Allardyce' earlier. Idiots.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 14 Feb 2015 21:16

Sherwood gets the gig at Villa

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by Ouroboros » 14 Feb 2015 22:51

Pepe the Horseman West Ham fans singing 'fcuk off Allardyce' earlier. Idiots.


WTAF? :shock:


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by Sutekh » 15 Feb 2015 16:27

Taxi for Poyet soon perhaps?

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by No Fixed Abode » 16 Feb 2015 12:49

Pepe the Horseman West Ham fans singing 'fcuk off Allardyce' earlier. Idiots.


No shock as that's how some football fans behave. Many Liverpool fans were calling for BR to get the sack only a couple or months ago.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by AthleticoSpizz » 16 Feb 2015 13:00

Many Chelsea fans were calling for Rafas head before he even turned up at The Bridge iirc

And what was all that stuff about, firing managers whilst well within the top six?

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by TBM » 16 Feb 2015 13:16

AthleticoSpizz Many Chelsea fans were calling for Rafas head before he even turned up at The Bridge iirc


But that was down to his comments about Chelsea, whilst Liverpool manager, than his record as a manager....


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by AthleticoSpizz » 16 Feb 2015 13:39

:shock: You said that without moving your lips Kes

Yes, and what about the rest?

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by sandman » 16 Feb 2015 13:52

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AthleticoSpizz Many Chelsea fans were calling for Rafas head before he even turned up at The Bridge iirc


But that was down to his comments about Chelsea, whilst Liverpool manager, than his record as a manager....


Yet if you pointed out his managerial record to them they would tell you that anything he achieved was ages ago.

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by TBM » 16 Feb 2015 15:41

AthleticoSpizz :shock: You said that without moving your lips Kes

Yes, and what about the rest?


The rest of what?

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by AthleticoSpizz » 16 Feb 2015 18:24

The rest of my original post or the rest of the Chelsea managers that have suffered the same fate as what Kes was alluding to (re. Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool), take your pick :?


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by No Fixed Abode » 16 Feb 2015 18:49

AthleticoSpizz The rest of my original post or the rest of the Chelsea managers that have suffered the same fate as what Kes was alluding to (re. Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool), take your pick :?


BR was just an example m8. But if you want to get all defensive over Liverpool, that's your prerogative.

The only thing we've learned here is, Spizz is a Liverpool fan.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 16 Feb 2015 18:52

Outed :shock:

I am also Anfield Koppite and all of those other usernames.

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by Pepe the Horseman » 17 Feb 2015 16:59

Pepe the Horseman Here we go

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/br ... 04502.html

Brentford to sack manager Mark Warburton?

Brentford will reportedly sack manager Mark Warburton at the end of the season, despite the club challenging for a place in the Premier League.

The 52-year-old succeeded Uwe Rosler at Griffin Park in December 2013 and went on to guide the Bees into the Championship last season by finishing runners-up to Wolverhampton Wanderers in League One.

Warburton has led the West London side into the Championship playoff places in their first season back in the second tier for 21 years.


It is thought that Warburton will be dismissed even if he leads the club into the Premier League for the first time in their history.

According to The Times, Brentford owner Matthew Benham has made it clear that he is determined to pursue a new direction, despite the club's progress under their former sporting director.

The report adds that Benham has his eye on appointing Rayo Vallecano coach Paco Jemez as Warburton's replacement.

Brentford last played in the top flight in the 1946-47 season.


Wtf? He literally couldn't be doing a better job.

Confirmed that he'll be going at the end of the season.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by YateleyRoyal » 18 Feb 2015 09:20

A long, but very informative, post from their forum:

Summary of Events: 1.Last week a story appeared in the Spanish Press from respected football journalist Antonio Fuentes. He reported that Brentford had held talks with Paco Jémez, the Rayo Vallecano coach, about the manager’s job at Griffin Park starting next season.
2.This sensational story was somehow picked-up from Twitter by GPGer thenightfly and then substantiated by hanworthbee,
3.What is certain is that these posts were read by the Football Management team on the GPG and that's where events started to unfold.
But where did the story really begin?...we'll come to that later.

So what happened after the above? GPG Towers understands that discussions between the two relevant parties didn't provide the Team Management with assurances that they were looking for…and that's where the whole kit and kaboodle started to unravel....and both parties agreed to go their separate ways.


Who Leaked This Info and Why?
We can all agree that the emergence of this story - with fine details to establish its verity, has been destructive to the club. Notwithstanding that it happened on a match-day against a promotion rival. Now would do such a thing? Perhaps a disgruntled Team Management member after browsing the GPG (as above) would make sense. No-one else would have the motivation.

In fact, there is substantial circumstantial evidence that this all originated from the Sporting Director. Let's join the dots. Tony Evans is Football Editor of The Times....guess which club he is all over... The Anfield Rap Guess which of our Football Management team would have connections with this rabid Liverpool Supporter? Not hard is it? It's fair to say that this has been viewed as unforgiveable and we don't expect to see Frank around for much longer.

What is the Background?
Now this is difficult and we will have to dance around the edges....a lot. What has been clear from past utterances is that Matthew is a firm believer in the European football management model (Director of Football etc.) and very anti the traditional English model where the Manager is King and the Chairman/Owner is consigned to the boardroom with his G&T entertaining clients of his Haulage company.

Given the timing of these events it can readily be inferred that the January transfer window was the catalyst. The fact that the transfer window was relatively quiet for us would lead us to suggest that one party or the other was disappointed that a fair few players didn't arrive.

The rumour mill has it that Matthew has made an absolute fortune recently and is in a position to increase his already substantial investment in our club. When you inspect the League Table and note how close the top of it is, and consider that an improvement in league position gets us from a play-off position (which has a 1 in 4 chance of promotion) to an automatic position (which, of course, is guaranteed promotion) then the difference in return between 3nd and 2nd place is.....substantial.

On the other hand it is clear that the Team Management puts great store in "team spirit" and firmly believes that bringing in any new players will disrupt the playing squad to such an extent that it will ruin any chance of promotion that we currently have.
So there you have two….rather opposing views and it’s not hard to conceive that that is the core of the issue.

As a point of reference, we are reliably informed that Midtjylland have been completely receptive to new ideas from MB and that in six months at Midtjylland there's been more buy-in to new ideas and more open-mindedness than in 8 years of MB’s influence at Brentford. As BURFORD BEE posted
“I think many of us are blinded by our gratitude to MB and forget that he didn't get to where he is now by being influenced by sentiment or by not making difficult and unpleasant decisions. The top people in business are always ahead of the game, they have the answer to a problem before the rest of us are even aware that one exists.”

One has to be ahead of the competition - and that has been ridiculed in the leaks to The Times with focus on Sleep Gurus and the like - but if you don't change you can't improve. And if BFC aren’t open to new ideas and getting ahead of the competition, and if MB sees Midtjylland getting ahead then perhaps he is right to question those that he hands his millions over to.

The PR Battle
Well, it's 7-0 to the Breadman and the other side haven't even got out of the dressing room yet.

It kicked-off in The Times followed by an own-goal of a Press Release (which came from outside PR experts) that has been called shit from every supporter; the highest levels in the club; and by the Players given the planned goal celebration in the Watford match was going to be a rendition of YMCA by the Village People in response to the rather bizarre "football is a village" nonsense.

It continued with the dignified Warburton interview with Billy Reeves and then by wheeling out players on Sky Sports and to the Press to remind everyone how great the Manager is.

Meanwhile Matthew seems to have been stunned into silence or very poorly advised. Where was the pre-emptive interview before the match on Tuesday by Chairman Crown? That's his job to step-in and get the view of the owner across to the press before letting them loose on a matchday. Instead we seem to be reduced to Benham tweeting at 3AM promising some sort of update in a few days. We suspect MB is going through the wringer at the moment, and considering what he has done for us supporters he can be consider severely let down.

We should not forget that the various news briefing to The Times and subsequently to the local press must have had the at least the tacit approval of the First Team Manager. At no point has MW stuck-up for our owner. Where are the comment such as "we have the best owner ever"; "we are very lucky to have Matthew" etc?

Of course Matthew is in a virtually impossible situation now, he can't say what's happening without slagging off the people who will be running his club for the next 6 months. It will interesting to see what MB has planned...but...well...what would you do. Maybe that's why MB needs a few days to consider what to do. I guess you don't encounter situations like this in the dark world of statistical analysis....


What Happens Next
We know that there was an Emergency BFC Board Meeting today that Matthew attended. We had to look up who is a Director these days. Here goes
Cliff Crown Chairman (Smartodds)
Donald Kerr Vice-Chairman (Bees United)
David Merritt Non Executive Director (Bees United)
Mike Power Non Executive Director
Nity Raj Non Executive Director (Smartodds)
Philip Whall Non Executive Director (Smartodds)
Our understanding of BFC Board Meeting these days is that it generally goes "The following is what Matthew has decided...." and all the Smartodds people will have already known what happened. So this have been an update for the Bees United nominees and it might be interesting to hear from our supporter representatives on the BFC board. Nice thought eh? We are sure that the non-Smartodds directors are as much shocked by events as we all are - which raises governance questions of its own.

Back to the important relationships, we can surmise that it is very cordial between Benham, Warbs and Weir - otherwise the latter two would be out of here. From The Times article (which is widely acknowledged to be accurate - very accurate) Matthew has said that they can stay as part of a new structure or they can leave if they so choose. However it is highly unlikely that the Sporting Director will be around for long given that his role at player recruitment is now effectively redundant.


Closing
As one email to GPG Towers stated: it's fair to say that we are all genuinely shocked about this news – it’s like finding out that a couple that you knew had a really rock-solid marriage just announced their divorce....we are all as stunned as every BFC supporter

The next step is Matthew's emergence from his bunker.....now, where's the Downfall parody from The H?

One final thing to consider is - who would we rather have here tomorrow...Warburton or Benham? We all know that there is only one rational answer. And we'd do well to think back to the days after Uwe departed. That's not to be eternally grateful for MW's contribution....not at all.

Disclaimer
As a disclaimer this is not the view or information of any individual connected with the GPG. It is an aggregation of information received those from well connected GPGers. We have posted under a generic username to reflect that. However we can assure you that the above is a very accurate reflection of events and the current situation.

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Re: The Manager Sack Race/Merry-go-Round

by Sanguine » 18 Feb 2015 09:26

I hope they sink without a trace.

Decent club, great ground, great fans, but I can't stand 'football' being managed in this way. Whatever the owner's good intentions, I hope it all goes to shit.

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by YateleyRoyal » 18 Feb 2015 09:39

Their fans don't see it that way, on the whole. Whilst they appreciate how good a job Warbuton is doing, and most are shocked and upset to see him go, they realise that they probably wouldn't exist if Benham hadn't come along.

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by Sanguine » 18 Feb 2015 09:45

YateleyRoyal Their fans don't see it that way, on the whole. Whilst they appreciate how good a job Warbuton is doing, and most are shocked and upset to see him go, they realise that they probably wouldn't exist if Benham hadn't come along.


Is that all football is these days? Wait for a Sugar Daddy to prop you up and then bend to his every will? No thanks.

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