Save Plymouth Argyle

[Svlad Cjelli]

I think that you're asking an awful lot of any set of supporters who don't agree with the club's owners to actually stop going.

By walking away they sever any connection with the club, a connection that no doubt was there before the owners came along and would last after those owners left.

Isn't that exactly what Chester City fans did?

Yes, but that was an extreme case - they'd lost complete confidence in the owners and knew that there was absolutely no future for the club. They wanted to hasten the end.

[prostak]

Wasn't the Chester chairman doing things like organising minute's silences for dead gangsters? That is a touch more extreme.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Wasn't the Chester chairman doing things like organising minute's silences for dead gangsters? That is a touch more extreme.

Yep - and transferring ownership to his painter and decorator for one match so an FA Cup game could be played against another club he had a financial interest in.

He is now sniffing around Wrexham, BTW.....

[Radders]

For all the people who moaned when we were cutting the cloth, or living within our means, depending how you view it, this is what could happen if it goes wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 401625.stm

I think we would all love to see our team compete for honours in whatever league they are in, but some seem to forget that sometimes it may be better to just play the game for a bit and still have a team rather then gamble it all and not have a team at all.

[facaldaqui]

The article says that going down lost them £3 million in income--that would cut us to shreds as well, though we are better run and would survive by cutting--slashing, in fact--the cloth. The trouble is that that club has been run by tossers for quite a while: first by McAuley, who cut the cloth so much that they went down two divisions, then by some overreachers who tried to build a stadium with council subsidies and never got it finished, and now by far-eastern blaggers akin to that chubby duffer who took over Portsmouth. Then who do they employ as a consultant? Peter Ridsdale. So glad Reading is in better hands than them.

Peter Reid, by the way, should be relieved this crisis is masking the fact he's a dud manager.

[AthleticoSpizz]

10 point deduction to add to their misery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 401625.stm

A sad situation for them, and all this from the team, that, not-that-long-ago, used to give it large everytime that they played their local derby in Berkshire.

[roadrunner]

Well that's Plymouth relegated then. Rock bottom and 8 points adrift of safety. They wont make that back up.

[facaldaqui]

Well that's Plymouth relegated then. Rock bottom and 8 points adrift of safety. They wont make that back up.

Smart, though, because they were probably doomed anyway, after selling their best players. So the ten points may make no difference in the end. Better than having them knocked off next season.

[Fluff]

10 point deduction to add to their misery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 401625.stm

A sad situation for them, and all this from the team, that, not-that-long-ago, used to give it large everytime that they played their local derby in Berkshire.

and still no sign of T-Rex on this thread

[prostak]

I think the convivial intentions I had in starting it are contrary to his aims.

[Ian Royal]

Well that's Plymouth relegated then. Rock bottom and 8 points adrift of safety. They wont make that back up.

Smart, though, because they were probably doomed anyway, after selling their best players. So the ten points may make no difference in the end. Better than having them knocked off next season.

Assuming they can come out of adminstration after the relegation and can cope with reduced finances in a lower league. They're low enough down the ladder to go quietly out of business... though I expect someone to save them.

[facaldaqui]

Well that's Plymouth relegated then. Rock bottom and 8 points adrift of safety. They wont make that back up.

Smart, though, because they were probably doomed anyway, after selling their best players. So the ten points may make no difference in the end. Better than having them knocked off next season.

Assuming they can come out of adminstration after the relegation and can cope with reduced finances in a lower league. They're low enough down the ladder to go quietly out of business... though I expect someone to save them.

I fear for them, because there's a shortage of likely saviours in that part of the country. Ex-chairman McAuley is now on about buying the stadium, to safeguard it. But he's not mega-rich. He was always wanting to sell the club while he owned it, because he said he couldn't afford to donate to it; but they could never find anyone suitable to buy it. My wife's a Plymouth supporter, poor sod. Her last highlight was beating us 4:1.

I suspect Argyle pinned too much on England winning the World Cup bid, which for them would have been like winning the lottery.

[Ian Royal]

Saviours rarely seem to come from the same area these days... I can't help but think that's half teh problem. A saviour usually turns up, but doesn't have any real connection and ends up quite often fecking them over worse than they were originally in the end. Then they're back to looking for another saviour, who in all likelihood isn't genuinely commited to the club through thick and thin.

[facaldaqui]

Saviours rarely seem to come from the same area these days... I can't help but think that's half teh problem. A saviour usually turns up, but doesn't have any real connection and ends up quite often fecking them over worse than they were originally in the end. Then they're back to looking for another saviour, who in all likelihood isn't genuinely commited to the club through thick and thin.

A year or two ago, Argyle thought they'd found their saviours in Yasuaki Kagami and George Synan, who are based in Japan: they bought 38% of the shares and said they'd pump £2 million into the club. They were in a consortium with Sir Roy Gardner and his mate, who added their five penneth and were able to take control of the club with 51%. The previous chairman Stapleton and his mates, now owning 49%, stepped back and let this new crowd get on with it. But it seems that Gardner was more interested in developing the ground for the World Cup and in building a trading park around the ground in the process. With the failure of the World Cup bid, he seems to have lost interest: he and his partner never spent much time at the club anyway and hardly went to any matches. Now Stapleton and co have woken up and are trying to do something about the mess. As for saviours Yasuaki Kagami and George Synan, they have not delivered the promised money and, it seems, may not even have it. They are hard to even contact.

This is what can happen if you just hand your club over to the first chancers who come along--it bears some similarities to what happened at Portsmouth. Good on JM for holding on here till he finds a responsible buyer, which he may never do.

[Ian Royal]

no argument here.