Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

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Re: Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

by Millsy » 27 Jun 2010 17:59

Criminally bad linesman 1 England 0.

I'll categorically say it now...

Anyone who disagrees that technology should be introduced into GAME-CHANGING decisions (eg red cards, penalties, disallowed goals) is not just wrong, but stuck in the past, arrogant and just a bit f*cking stupid.

THere's no two ways about it and I'm not going to stay here to argue this no-brainer point.

For anyone who has the audacity to argue let me pre-empt you: shut up, you're wrong and you're thick as sh*t.

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Re: Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

by Barry the bird boggler » 27 Jun 2010 18:01

No to technology in football.

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Re: Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

by chilipepper91 » 27 Jun 2010 18:04

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27052010/ ... eason.html
The five-referee experiment involving extra linesmen behind each goal will be extended to the Champions League and Euro 2012 qualifiers next season.
The Europa League, where the experiment was conducted for the first time in senior competition this season, will also feature the new system, UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said.
The system, backed by UEFA president Michel Platini, features two extra linesmen, one behind each goal, to help referees spot penalty area infringements and determine whether the ball has crossed the line.
Soccer's rule-making body, the International Football Association Board, last week voted to allow confederations and national associations to adopt the system on a voluntary basis over the next two years.
The IFAB had earlier this year rejected the use of any form of goal-line technology to help referees despite pressure from coaches, players and supporters.
Infantino refuted suggestions that the five-referee system had been given a lukewarm response.
"If the enthusiasm was not there, the IFAB would not have decided to authorise an additional two-year period," he said.
"We have made this experiment in the Europa League and it went well.
"Something else must be done to help the referees, you add eyes and you help the referee to cover their ground in a much better way.
He added: "It's difficult to find anything negative in this experiment, although it will have to evolve, for example how shall they move, where do they have to be placed?."
"But first results were positive and we want to do something for the good of football."
UEFA said the system would be used from the final qualifying round in the Champions League, the start of the group stage of the Europa League and through the Euro 2012 qualifying competition.
It's use in any competition has to be approved by FIFA which is seen as a formality.


Surprised less people have picked up on this. Would have given the right decision about the goal today.

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Re: Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

by Wycombe Royal » 27 Jun 2010 18:05

2 world wars, 1 world cup Anyone who disagrees that technology should be introduced into GAME-CHANGING decisions (eg red cards, penalties, disallowed goals) is not just wrong, but stuck in the past, arrogant and just a bit f*cking stupid.

THere's no two ways about it and I'm not going to stay here to argue this no-brainer point.

For anyone who has the audacity to argue let me pre-empt you: shut up, you're wrong and you're thick as sh*t.

You are a tit.

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Re: Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

by Barry the bird boggler » 27 Jun 2010 18:05

Looking forward to it being extended to league games.... :lol:


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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 27 Jun 2010 20:01

I've never understood the argument that you couldn't bring it in because you couldn't apply it across all levels of the sport.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see tv replays at lower level rugby and cricket matches, and it doesn't seem to cause chaos.

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by readingfc13 » 27 Jun 2010 20:09

Rev Algenon Stickleback H I've never understood the argument that you couldn't bring it in because you couldn't apply it across all levels of the sport.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see tv replays at lower level rugby and cricket matches, and it doesn't seem to cause chaos.

I agree. Even the other day during the marathon tennis match between Isner and Mahut, it was shown that the technology used in Tennis was not even used on all courts at Wimbledon.

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by sam1 » 27 Jun 2010 20:17

How embarrassing. Offside Argentina goal given and shown on the big screen.

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by T.R.O.L.I. » 27 Jun 2010 20:17

Another shocking decision from the lino in the Argentina v Mexico game :roll:


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by SouthDownsRoyal » 27 Jun 2010 20:19

sam1 How embarrassing. Offside Argentina goal given and shown on the big screen.


T.R.O.L.I. Another shocking decision from the lino in the Argentina v Mexico game :roll:


What happened?

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by sam1 » 27 Jun 2010 20:22

SouthDownsRoyal Another mistake :roll:

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Re: Terrible refereeing ruining football - the saga continues.

by sandman » 27 Jun 2010 20:32

chilipepper91 http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27052010/58/champions-league-extra-linesmen-next-season.html
The five-referee experiment involving extra linesmen behind each goal will be extended to the Champions League and Euro 2012 qualifiers next season.
The Europa League, where the experiment was conducted for the first time in senior competition this season, will also feature the new system, UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said.
The system, backed by UEFA president Michel Platini, features two extra linesmen, one behind each goal, to help referees spot penalty area infringements and determine whether the ball has crossed the line.
Soccer's rule-making body, the International Football Association Board, last week voted to allow confederations and national associations to adopt the system on a voluntary basis over the next two years.
The IFAB had earlier this year rejected the use of any form of goal-line technology to help referees despite pressure from coaches, players and supporters.
Infantino refuted suggestions that the five-referee system had been given a lukewarm response.
"If the enthusiasm was not there, the IFAB would not have decided to authorise an additional two-year period," he said.
"We have made this experiment in the Europa League and it went well.
"Something else must be done to help the referees, you add eyes and you help the referee to cover their ground in a much better way.
He added: "It's difficult to find anything negative in this experiment, although it will have to evolve, for example how shall they move, where do they have to be placed?."
"But first results were positive and we want to do something for the good of football."
UEFA said the system would be used from the final qualifying round in the Champions League, the start of the group stage of the Europa League and through the Euro 2012 qualifying competition.
It's use in any competition has to be approved by FIFA which is seen as a formality.


Surprised less people have picked up on this. Would have given the right decision about the goal today.


Like they did in the europa league this season when Fulham played Roma and Riise dived right in front of one of them and they gave a penalty.

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by Royal Rother » 27 Jun 2010 21:06

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2 world wars, 1 world cup Anyone who disagrees that technology should be introduced into GAME-CHANGING decisions (eg red cards, penalties, disallowed goals) is not just wrong, but stuck in the past, arrogant and just a bit f*cking stupid.

THere's no two ways about it and I'm not going to stay here to argue this no-brainer point.

For anyone who has the audacity to argue let me pre-empt you: shut up, you're wrong and you're thick as sh*t.

You are a tit.

He might well be but he's absolutely right about this.

Billion dollar industry can't put in place the most basic of procedures to ensure that correct decisions are made - it is truly laughable, utterly pathetic and downright stupid. It puts supporters and sponsors off the game far more than the 10 seconds delay (it would take for these moments to be reviewed) would do.


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by cmonurz » 27 Jun 2010 21:12

Rugby, cricket, tennis - none of these games are ruined in any way as a spectacle by the use of technology, and there is no reason to think football would be.

The game loses more time to prima-donnas rolling around 'injured' or players arguing with referees than it would to a few seconds referral to a TV replay.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Jun 2010 21:16

At this level (the pinnacle of the world stage), the world has seen that England DID score that second goal, the world also saw Henry HANDBALL France into the finals.

The World (and the commonsensical man) may want change, but Blatter and his cronies are above all of that

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by brendywendy » 28 Jun 2010 11:07

cmonurz Rugby, cricket, tennis - none of these games are ruined in any way as a spectacle by the use of technology, and there is no reason to think football would be.

The game loses more time to prima-donnas rolling around 'injured' or players arguing with referees than it would to a few seconds referral to a TV replay.



in fact the spectacle is noticably enhanced

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by Barry the bird boggler » 28 Jun 2010 11:10

brendywendy
cmonurz Rugby, cricket, tennis - none of these games are ruined in any way as a spectacle by the use of technology, and there is no reason to think football would be.

The game loses more time to prima-donnas rolling around 'injured' or players arguing with referees than it would to a few seconds referral to a TV replay.



in fact the spectacle is noticably enhanced


Only from a :lol: point of view.

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by brendywendy » 28 Jun 2010 11:17

the replays and appeals in both cricket and tennis both enhance the atmosphere and ejoyment of the game imo

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by Flyingkiwi » 28 Jun 2010 11:22

cmonurz Rugby, cricket, tennis - none of these games are ruined in any way as a spectacle by the use of technology, and there is no reason to think football would be.

The game loses more time to prima-donnas rolling around 'injured' or players arguing with referees than it would to a few seconds referral to a TV replay.


I agree with regard to Tennis but disagree with regard to both Cricket and Rugby. Technology hasn't eliminated mistake and dodgy calls in cricket; far from it and the amount of time wasted looking at inconclusive videos for evidence of grounding (which as often as not is given straight back to the onfield ref to make a "call" on) is awful.

That said, if the goal-line technology that people are calling for is similar to "Hawkeye" in tennis then I don't have a problem with it. However, that wouldn't have made any difference to Treves' offside goal for instance.

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