The Non - League thread

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

Hi mate, Luton are in the upper echelons of League 1 and Hereford are struggling at the foot of the Conference North. Basingstoke won't be playing either any time soon so I'm not sure of what your point is.

They played Hereford in March of this year, but Luton I give you - I was just thinking of a 'big team' that have been around Conference level recently.

I take it back, and swap it with a Bradford.

I think you might want to go and lie down pal.

Thanks for your advice, and continued "contribution" to this thread and portal in general.

[Four Of Clubs]

Ahem!

... and here's tomorrow's NL offerings:

Saturday 1st December

FA Cup Round Two
01 Guiseley (6NN) v Fleetwood Town (3) (Mon 8.00) (BT Sport)
03 Wrexham (5NL) v Newport County (4) (8.00) (BT Sport)
04 Tranmere Rovers (4) v Southport (6NN) (Sun 2p.m.)
07 Solihull Moors (5NL) v Blackpool (3) (Fri 7.55) (B.B.C. 2)
08 Chesterfield (5NL) v Grimsby Town (4)
10 Swindon Town (4) v Woking (6NS) (Sun 2p.m.)
11 Maidstone United (5NL) v Oldham Athletic (4) (all ticket)
13 F.C. Halifax Town (5NL) v A.F.C. Wimbledon (3) (12.30) (BT Sport)
15 Barnet (5NL) v Stockport County (6NN)
20 Slough Town (6NS) v Gillingham (3) (Sun 2p.m.)

FA Vase Round Three
14 Histon (9ECOP) v Leverstock Green (9SSMP) (Sun 3.00)
15 Godmanchester Rovers (9ECOP) v Holbeach United (9UCP)
16 Swaffham Town (10ES1N) v Stowmarket Town (9ECOP)
17 Tring Athletic (9SSMP) v Biggleswade (9SSMP)
18 Hullbridge Sports (9ESSX) v Newport Pagnell Town (9UCP)
19 Deeping Rangers (9UCP) v F.C. Clacton (9ECOP)
20 A.F.C. Uckfield Town (9SCP) v Sutton Common Rovers (9COCOP)
21 Eastbourne Town (9SCP) v Abbey Rangers (9COCOP)
22 Redbridge (9ESSX) v Chertsey Town (9COCOP)
23 Bearsted (9SCEP) v Steyning Town (10SC1)
24 Sheppey United (9SCEP) v Cray Valley (P.M.) (9SCEP)
25 Canterbury City (9SCEP) v Southall (9COCOP)
26 Erith Town (9SCEP) v Windsor (9HELP)
27 Saltash United (10SWPP) v Cribbs (9WSTP)
28 Bradford Town (9WSTP) v Baffins Milton Rovers (9WSSXP)
29 Willand Rovers (9WSTP) v Bodmin Town (10SWPP)
30 Cadbury Heath (9WSTP) v A.F.C. St Austell (10SWPP)
31 Hamble Club (9WSSXP) v Hamworthy United (9WSSXP)
32 Sholing (9WSSXP) v Pagham (9SCP)

NAT
Aldershot Town v Ebbsfleet United
Maidenhead United v Harrogate Town
NATN
Brackley Town v Altrincham
NATS
Billericay Town v Oxford City
Chelmsford City v Gloucester City
Chippenham Town v Weston-super-Mare
Concord Rangers v Hemel Hempstead Town
Dulwich Hamlet v Torquay United
Hampton & Richmond Borough v East Thurrock United
Truro City v St Albans City
Wealdstone v Eastbourne Borough
Welling United v Hungerford Town

ILP
Dorking Wanderers v Tonbridge Angels
IL1-SC
Bracknell Town v Hayes & Yeading United
Marlow v Hertford Town
Molesey v Hanwell Town
Northwood v Chalfont St Peter
South Park v Egham Town
Uxbridge v Ashford Town (Middx)
Westfield v Bedfont Sports

SLP-C
Banbury United v Lowestoft Town
SLP-S
Harrow Borough v Farnborough
Hartley Wintney v Chesham United
Kings Langley v Basingstoke Town
Staines Town v Dorchester Town
Swindon Supermarine v Gosport Borough
Taunton Town v Beaconsfield Town
SL1-C
Aylesbury United v Kidlington
Bromsgrove Sporting v Didcot Town
North Leigh v Coleshill Town
Thame United v Bedford Town
Yaxley v Aylesbury
SL1-S
Blackfield & Langley v Thatcham Town
Cirencester Town v Fleet Town
Mangotsfield United v Highworth Town
Winchester City v Larkhall Athletic

CCLP
Camberley Town v Balham
Colliers Wood United v AFC Hayes
Guildford City v Cobham
Hanworth Villa v Horley Town
Redhill v Badshot Lea
Spelthorne Sports v Banstead Athletic
Walton & Hersham v CB Hounslow United
CCL1
Ash United v Sandhurst Town
Bagshot v British Airways @ Fleet Town
Chessington & Hook United v Farnham Town
Epsom & Ewell v Godalming Town
FC Deportivo Galicia v Frimley Green
Fleet Spurs v Cove
Kensington Borough v Eversley & California
Tooting Bec v Sheerwater

HELLP
Holmer Green v Fairford Town
Wantage Town v Brackley Town Saints
HELL1E
Burnham v Woodley United
Milton United v Chalvey Sports
Wallingford Town v Thame Rangers
Hell Challenge
Abingdon United v Ascot United
Ardley United v Longlevens
Bishops Cleeve v Clanfield (85)
Brimscombe & Thrupp v Binfield
Cheltenham Saracens v AFC Aldermaston
Hell Supplementary
14:00 Thornbury Town v Virginia Water
Didcot Town Development v Chinnor
Flackwell Heath v Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Reading City v Abingdon Town
Shrivenham v Woodstock Town


WESSP
Alresford Town v Bemerton Heath Harlequins
Andover New Street v Team Solent
Tadley Calleva v Lymington Town
WESS1
Alton v New Milton Town
Petersfield Town v Andover Town
Fri 30th Nov Folland Sports v Whitchurch United

[LWJ]

Fareham Town v Portland in the Wessex for me tomorrow.

Waterlogged pitch game OFF.

Newbury for the racing instead.

[Orion]

Fareham Town v Portland in the Wessex for me tomorrow.

Waterlogged pitch game OFF.

Newbury for the racing instead.

You given up watching reading now then?

[LWJ]

Fareham Town v Portland in the Wessex for me tomorrow.

Waterlogged pitch game OFF.

Newbury for the racing instead.

You given up watching reading now then?

Yup, we are just painful to watch.

[Orion]

I get that.

A lot of people are mega keen as kids and then just grow out if it, I thought you were heading in that direction.

[Four Of Clubs]

Fareham Town v Portland in the Wessex for me tomorrow.

Waterlogged pitch game OFF.

Newbury for the racing instead.

Quite a few OFF this AM - one's involving 'our' featured clubs that I've spotted incl.

Taunton v Beaconsfield
Fleet Spurs v Cove
Brimscomb v Binfield
Andover New St v Team Solent
Petersfield v Andover

[Tony Le Mesmer]

5th leg of this season's FA Vase adventure.

Shepshed Dynamo 3-0 NKF Burbage. Their ground is in Butthole Lane

A bruising encounter. Games further north at this level are noticeably way more physical than games in the Hellenic, Wessex etc. If lacking in overall quality.

[Royal Rother]

After a couple of losses last week against 2 decent Hellenic sides in Ascot Utd and Flackwell Heath, Windsor overcame Erith Town 2-1 Away in the FA Vase yesterday (same result as last year, although a round later this time).

Ex Windsor youngster Brad Pearce scored for Sutton Utd yesterday on his 1st start. He has improved so much in the last 2 years to get to this point. Nice quiet unassuming chap too from what I saw of him.

(Little personal anecdote - Pearce scored a great goal in an U15s Cup semi a few years ago when playing for Burnham against Windsor. My son was the Windsor keeper at the time and remembers how it flew past him into top corner. Windsor won the game 3-2 I think and went on to win the Final.)

[Orion]

Do Windsor still okay at a leisure centre?

[Royal Rother]

(Assuming okay = play.) No. Never have done.

[Orion]

Don't they play at Windsor wave machine?

[Royal Rother]

Drainage was the big issue there unfortunately.

[Kulshaw72RFC]

Dave tarpey back to maidenhead on loan. Been a horrible 18 months for him since his injury.

[Four Of Clubs]

Weekend NL round-up

Saturday 1st December

FA Cup Round Two
01 Guiseley v Fleetwood Town – Mon 20:00h
03 Wrexham 0-0 Newport County
04 Tranmere Rovers 1-1 Southport
07 Solihull Moors 0-0 Blackpool
08 Chesterfield 0-2 Grimsby Town
10 Swindon Town 0-1 Woking
11 Maidstone United 0-2 Oldham Athletic
13 F.C. Halifax Town 1-3 A.F.C. Wimbledon
15 Barnet 1-0 Stockport County
20 Slough Town 0-1 Gillingham att 2.084

FA Vase Round Three
14 Histon 5-1 Leverstock Green
15 Godmanchester Rovers 2-0 Holbeach United
16 Swaffham Town 0-0 Stowmarket Town aet
17 Tring Athletic 1-1 Biggleswade aet FT 1-1
18 Hullbridge Sports P-P Newport Pagnell Town
19 Deeping Rangers 4-2 F.C. Clacton
20 A.F.C. Uckfield Town P-P Sutton Common Rovers
21 Eastbourne Town 0-1 Abbey Rangers
22 Redbridge P-P Chertsey Town
23 Bearsted 3-2 Steyning Town aet FT 2-2
24 Sheppey United 0-4 Cray Valley
25 Canterbury City 1-0 Southall aet
26 Erith Town 1-2 Windsor
27 Saltash United P-P Cribbs
28 Bradford Town 1-3 Baffins Milton Rovers
29 Willand Rovers 3-0 Bodmin Town
30 Cadbury Heath P-P A.F.C. St Austell
31 Hamble Club 1-1 Hamworthy United aet FT 1-1
32 Sholing 6-2 Pagham

NAT
Aldershot Town 0-2 Ebbsfleet United
Maidenhead United 1-2 Harrogate Town
NATN
Brackley Town 1-2 Altrincham – Saints drop out of the PO spots
NATS
Billericay Town 2-3 Oxford City
Chelmsford City 2-0 Gloucester City
Chippenham Town 1-3 Weston-super-Mare
Concord Rangers 2-1 Hemel Hempstead Town
Dulwich Hamlet 0-2 Torquay United
Hampton & Richmond Borough 1-0 East Thurrock United
Truro City P-P St Albans City
Wealdstone 0-3 Eastbourne Borough
Welling United 3-1 Hungerford Town – Crusaders stay in the bottom three while their hosts go top thanks to OCFCs impressive win at ‘ricay. Woking stay in 2nd despite not playing (otherwise engaged winning at the Sw!ne ) – with Torquay moving to 3rd. Hungerford are now only a point off the bottom two sides W-S-M & East Thurrock

ILP
Dorking Wanderers 0-1 Tonbridge Angels – Wanderers stay top but lose at home to Angels on 90’ who go 2nd
IL1-SC
Bracknell Town 3-3 Hayes & Yeading United att 338 – two for Bowerman and a late goal from Harrison Bayley sees the points shared
- HandY had led through a 2’ pen – Robins were ahead by HT then behind with about 20’ left
- Bracknell face leaders Marlow at Larges Lane next Sat.

Marlow 1-1 Hertford Town
Molesey 0-0 Hanwell Town
Northwood P-P Chalfont St Peter
South Park P-P Egham Town
Uxbridge 0-5 Ashford Town (Middx)
Westfield P-P Bedfont Sports

SLP-C
Banbury United 0-0 Lowestoft Town
SLP-S
Harrow Borough 5-0 Farnborough
Hartley Wintney 1-2 Chesham United – bit of a shock here for ‘The Row’ who couldn’t build on their impressive win at Basingstoke midweek and fall to their 2nd succesive home defeat.
Kings Langley P-P Basingstoke Town
Staines Town P-P Dorchester Town
Swindon Supermarine 2-1 Gosport Borough
SL1-C
Aylesbury United 2-1 Kidlington
Bromsgrove Sporting A-A Didcot Town – Abandoned Floodlight failure – with Diddy trailing 1-3 and down to 10 men
North Leigh 1-2 Coleshill Town
Thame United 2-1 Bedford Town
Yaxley 1-3 Aylesbury
SL1-S
Blackfield & Langley 3-0 Thatcham Town
Cirencester Town 4-0 Fleet Town
Mangotsfield United 0-1 Highworth Town
Winchester City 1-0 Larkhall Athletic

CCLP
Camberley Town 1-2 Balham
Colliers Wood United P-P AFC Hayes
Guildford City P-P Cobham
Hanworth Villa P-P Horley Town
Redhill P-P Badshot Lea
Spelthorne Sports 0-1 Banstead Athletic
Walton & Hersham 0-0 CB Hounslow United
CCL1
Ash United 2-3 Sandhurst Town
Bagshot 3-0 British Airways
Chessington & Hook United P-P Farnham Town
Epsom & Ewell 3-2 Godalming Town
FC Deportivo Galicia 1-2 Frimley Green - FG go top
Kensington Borough P-P Eversley & California
Tooting Bec P-P Sheerwater

HELLP
Holmer Green 1-2 Fairford Town
Wantage Town P-P Brackley Town Saints
HELL1E
Burnham 5-1 Woodley United
Milton United 1-2 Chalvey Sports
Wallingford Town 1-2 Thame Rangers
Hellenic Challenge Cup
Abingdon United 0-4 Ascot United
Ardley United 0-3 Longlevens
Bishops Cleeve 5-0 Clanfield (85)
Brimscombe & Thrupp P-P Binfield
Cheltenham Saracens H-W AFC Aldermaston –possibly something awry at the Atom Men – Firsts unable to fulfil a fixture at 'Sarries' – Reserves apparently did not play their Basingstoke League game at Herriard – the ‘A’s did turn up for their ‘Junior’ Cup Tie but were beaten 2-9.
AFC had been on a run of 4 straight wins towards the end of October which took them top, until a dip in form last month and Burnham’s recent charge. They went down 0-6 at mid-table Holyport in a midweek Cup game and their line-up on the night was described as ‘much changed’. They are due to host the ‘Sumas’ (Wokingham & Emmbrook) in the league next Saturday.

Hellenic Supplementary Cup
Thornbury Town 2-1 Virginia Water
Didcot Town Development 3-2 Chinnor
Flackwell Heath 2-1 Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Reading City P-P Abingdon Town - Scours waterlogged – doesn’t bode well for tomorrow night’s (Mon 3rd) visit of the Moles from Binfield for a Premier League game.
Shrivenham H-W Woodstock Town - visitors unable to raise a side

WESSP
Alresford Town 1-4 Bemerton Heath Harlequins - poor result for Town beaten heavily at home by the bottom club at start of play – this win drops Andover New Street back to the foot of the table.

WESS1
Alton 0-2 New Milton Town
(Fri) Folland Sports 3-2 Whitchurch United

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Weekend NL round-up

Winchester City[/b] 1-0 Larkhall Athletic

Three wins on the trot for Winch since my last doom and gloom post on here!

[Royal Rother]

For what I think is the 7th successive gamein the FA Vase Windsor have been drawn away.

Uckfield or Sutton Common Rovers (or whatever they are calling themselves this season).

Had a chat with Windsor’s manager yesterday at the U18s game and he was not very impressed with Erith Town. The normally mild-mannered Mick Woodham said they had a horrible ground, nasty fans, dirty team and not very nice management.

He is happy about the away days in the Vase - suits our style, and it is good to play at grounds and parts of the country you wouldn’t necessarily visit otherwise. (Except when it’s Erith I guess!)

[Four Of Clubs]

For what I think is the 7th successive gamein the FA Vase Windsor have been drawn away.

Uckfield or Sutton Common Rovers (or whatever they are calling themselves this season)

...well mostly right - apart from your 5th Round HOME tie last Feb vs Hamble

... does seem like you appear more regularly on the 'right side' of the draw.

Know nothing about AFC Uckfield -mid table in the Southern Combination League (ex-Sussex) - not been - would target that tie -possibly - should they get past SCR , who currently sit 2nd in the Combined Counties Prem.

If not then preference would swing towards the other CCLP side, Abbey Rangers, who visit to Bearsted.

SCR of course play on the 'plastic' @ Sutton Utd's Gander Green Lane - decent stadium - been a couple of times - most recently to watch the 'lodgers'.

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... regretting not making the effort tonight to trundle over to Scours for :

HELLP Reading City 2-3 Binfield

but work was a @&£€ and nearest/dearest and no 2 son were delayed getting home from his Cello lesson in Emmbrook, so by the time we'd eaten I couldn't be @rsed to go out.

Might bobble up to Stag Meadow tomorrow (Tue) for Virginia Water's game with Ascot.

Not a lot on elsewhere, on a remarkably quiet midweek for local NL.

Holmer Gn host Maidenhead in the last B&B 2nd Round tie...... and I think Thame are at home but not much else to draw me off the sofa.

[paultheroyal]

Horrible area, granted - but it's a decent little ground tbf.

Arguably better quality than the Camrose, and easily big enough to cope with the circa 3-400 supporters they get on an average week.

Might struggle when your Lutons or your Herefords come to town, but I feel that Basingstoke may be playing at one or even two levels lower in the coming seasons, unfortunately - so these 'big clubs' will be few and far between.

I can't comment on the Camrose as have never been, nor have I been to a B'stoke game so maybe I'm way off the mark.

My opinion is based on my experience of refereeing at Winklebury, typically in cup finals for the local Sunday leagues. I just couldn't imagine it hosting 'proper' football.

Bit harsh on Winklebury area - didn't think it was that bad.

Yes to the 4G pitch - that's part of the deal. It could be made out to be a decent little ground. If done properly it could have a big stand behind one goal but you are limited opposite stand side because of the dual carriageway.

The club itself is an absolute mess though. For a town the size of Basingstoke, to be playing football at the level it is, pretty shambolic.

Actually - that's a decent question in itself the Borough of Basingstoke has a population of 173,000 - are there many towns with larger numbers playing at a lower level?

[BraisingsteakRoyal]

Horrible area, granted - but it's a decent little ground tbf.

Arguably better quality than the Camrose, and easily big enough to cope with the circa 3-400 supporters they get on an average week.

Might struggle when your Lutons or your Herefords come to town, but I feel that Basingstoke may be playing at one or even two levels lower in the coming seasons, unfortunately - so these 'big clubs' will be few and far between.

I can't comment on the Camrose as have never been, nor have I been to a B'stoke game so maybe I'm way off the mark.

My opinion is based on my experience of refereeing at Winklebury, typically in cup finals for the local Sunday leagues. I just couldn't imagine it hosting 'proper' football.

Bit harsh on Winklebury area - didn't think it was that bad.

Yes to the 4G pitch - that's part of the deal. It could be made out to be a decent little ground. If done properly it could have a big stand behind one goal but you are limited opposite stand side because of the dual carriageway.

The club itself is an absolute mess though. For a town the size of Basingstoke, to be playing football at the level it is, pretty shambolic.

Actually - that's a decent question in itself the Borough of Basingstoke has a population of 173,000 - are there many towns with larger numbers playing at a lower level?

Winchester, although not a town, has a population of around 130,000 and is playing a division lower, but agree it's an absolute omni-shamblesof a club at the moment.