The footballer gets arrested thread

[Pepe the Horseman]

Rofl

[Mr Optimist]

For me, the statement he made today that finally acknowledges that actually, it's not just his life that's been oxf*rd up by this whole situation is a big step in the right direction for him.

That was the big issue for me, that he stops being so self piteous and actually acknowledges the wider implications and significance to others of what happened,

It's all staged managed crap though isn't it. Ched quite clearly has nothing between his ears and is following his advisors, agent, solicitors advice. They obviously feel that if he stays out of the game while the review of the case takes place he will never get back to anywhere near league level again as the process will take too long.

The comments today are for no ones benefit than his own. If he is successful in overturning the conviction quite quickly there will be no shortage of Championship clubs chasing his services. It drags on for 18 months or more and he will be playing for Rhyl in the Welsh Premier.

[Winston Smith]

Gordon Taylor gave an interview this evening where it seemed he felt Evans would eventually be found innocent.

he said as much in a interview with talksport a few weeks back too

[Ian Royal]

This is all getting ridiculous. I don't like the idea of convicted criminals of particularly unpleasant crimes going back into extremely well paid and high profile jobs. But I prefer that to the idea of someone being hounded for the rest of their life (or actually the media's attention span) and people who consider employing him being demonised and threatened.

[biff]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30698618



LOL @ the BBC ringing around League 1 and 2 clubs. Remember, your licence fee paid for those phone calls.

#PrivatisetheBBC

People of the Earth you have failed
You still worship The Sun and The Daily Mail.

mrs leons brother plays drums for him.

thats phucking cool. stephen gilchrist? big hair.

[Winston Smith]

I don't like the idea of convicted criminals of particularly unpleasant crimes going back into extremely well paid jobs.

I dont see how the wages someone earns after leaving prison have any bearing on anything really.

Find it a bit odd to have an issue with the money a criminal may legitimately earn after being punished

[From Despair To Where?]

For me, the statement he made today that finally acknowledges that actually, it's not just his life that's been oxf*rd up by this whole situation is a big step in the right direction for him.

That was the big issue for me, that he stops being so self piteous and actually acknowledges the wider implications and significance to others of what happened,

It's all staged managed crap though isn't it. Ched quite clearly has nothing between his ears and is following his advisors, agent, solicitors advice. They obviously feel that if he stays out of the game while the review of the case takes place he will never get back to anywhere near league level again as the process will take too long.

The comments today are for no ones benefit than his own. If he is successful in overturning the conviction quite quickly there will be no shortage of Championship clubs chasing his services. It drags on for 18 months or more and he will be playing for Rhyl in the Welsh Premier.

I know it's all a stage managed PR stunt scripted by his legal advisors but it's more palatable than the stage managed PR stunt of making out he's the only victim in the whole sordid affair that he's persevered with for the last 6 months. It's the first time hes acknowleded that other people have been hurt by his actions. Clearly he's been told to soften his approach and it's long overdue.

He's still out on licence so the alternative is that he could still be doing time inside. i actually think the best thing for him to do is stay out of the game until the review is heard. If it gets fast tracked, so be it. if he's found innocent, then revive his career with a clean slate.

As for Gordon Taylor comparing his case to Hillsborough? Clueless, tactless idiot. Whilst i understand the point he was trying to make, you don't compare a night out on the pull gone wrong with the deaths of 96 people and it's subsequent 20 year cover up by the authorities.

[Royalist]

Suspect this was the statement that would come out when he signed for someone. Too late now. Maybe if he did it when he did the video statement about his 'act of infidelity' people would of brought it but months later and when it'd been pretty much written out for him by the press?

Nah.

[Hoop Blah]

As for Gordon Taylor comparing his case to Hillsborough? Clueless, tactless idiot. Whilst i understand the point he was trying to make, you don't compare a night out on the pull gone wrong with the deaths of 96 people and it's subsequent 20 year cover up by the authorities.

I can see the point he was making, that the information in the public domain and the public/medias perceptions based on that can be misleading, but it was such a daft thing for someone in his position to say. It doesn't really warrant the outrage that it seems it's creating but it's just a stupid comparison to make because that outrage wasn't difficult to predict.

I don't like the idea of convicted criminals of particularly unpleasant crimes going back into extremely well paid jobs.

I dont see how the wages someone earns after leaving prison have any bearing on anything really.

Find it a bit odd to have an issue with the money a criminal may legitimately earn after being punished

Totally agree.

Whether he gets off or not there isn't any law preventing him from going back to work and you either agree people should be allowed to re-integrate with society or you don't, the fact they'll earn £x instead of £y makes no difference (as long as that money isn't directly as a result of the crime they were convicted of).

[From Despair To Where?]

As for Gordon Taylor comparing his case to Hillsborough? Clueless, tactless idiot. Whilst i understand the point he was trying to make, you don't compare a night out on the pull gone wrong with the deaths of 96 people and it's subsequent 20 year cover up by the authorities.

I can see the point he was making, that the information in the public domain and the public/medias perceptions based on that can be misleading, but it was such a daft thing for someone in his position to say. It doesn't really warrant the outrage that it seems it's creating but it's just a stupid comparison to make because that outrage wasn't difficult to predict.

I saw the interview and it was almost like he was caught on the hop, was struggling for a metaphor and Hillsborough was the first thing that came into his head. There are fundamental differences though. in Evans' case, it's all opinion pieces, you take it or leave it whereas with Hillsborough, the press were fed misinformation and published it despite concerns it was wrong. Any reference will always generate an over-reaction and someone in his position should know Hillsborough's a hornet's nest that really shouldn't be prodded un-necessarily..

[floyd__streete]

"I am signing this petition against Oldham Athletic signing a convicted rapist"

"Why? Subject to child protection issues and conditions on his licence he is absolutely at liberty to seek employment as a professional footballer"

"He is a danger to women and a potential role model for children"

"Ok, well its not as if he will be training with the women's team so don't worry about that. The role model thing is at best a subjective opinion and at worst emotive nonsense"

"The FA should draw up some legislation banning sex offenders playing professional football"

"Good luck with that! Have you heard of 'restriction of trade' and 'human rights'. Such legislation would be unenforceable. And good luck with finding a Politician who would put their name to a parliamentary bill along these lines."

"Well its not right, its not fair"

"Then lobby your local MP for prison sentences to be changed in order that people convicted of sexual offences serve a longer time in custody and that community punishment is not applicable in such offences, lest they get the chance to ."

"Oh, but I am massively pro community rehabiliation"

"Thought you might be. Any other illogical, inconsistent, moralistic and emotive issues you are dealing with in your confused little liberal-minded head?"

[leon]

People of the Earth you have failed
You still worship The Sun and The Daily Mail.

mrs leons brother plays drums for him.

thats phucking cool. stephen gilchrist? big hair.

That's the fellow. You're aware of his work?

[Angry Shed Sex]

Would anyone here be happy with a convicted rapist playing for Reading?

[Mr Angry]

Would anyone here be happy with a convicted rapist playing for Reading?

Personally, no.

However, I certainly wouldn't be threatening staff at the club with violence if they employed said player; at the end of the day, its the club's decision and as a fan you either accept that decision or you stop going to games etc, which is your personal choice.

As for the whole role model argument; its rubbish.

Without going onto google, I suspect that even football fans on a fan site such as this would be hard pressed to name a single Oldham player, so not much of a role model then?

Also, the point was made last night on the radio that as Oldham's gates this season have totalled less than the 60,000 who signed the on-line petition saying they didn't want him at the club, the likelihood is that very few if any of those signatories were actually Oldham fans.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Or it could be mean that ALL the Oldham fans signed it, and then some.

[P!ssed Off]

Would anyone here be happy with a convicted rapist playing for Reading?

Not In My Back Yard!

[LWJ]

Would anyone here be happy with a convicted rapist playing for Reading?

Yup - Don't think footballers need publicity on their private lives. I think he would also come in and work his socks off to prove that he wasn't a bad egg.

It's not like he dragged a girl off a street and raped her, they had a threesome, she felt like a slut, she cried rape, he got found unfairly (in my opinion) guilty.

He's not a fcuking dangerous predator ffs. He did what any lad would do when offered the chance of a threesome.

[LWJ]

Also, the point was made last night on the radio that as Oldham's gates this season have totalled less than the 60,000 who signed the on-line petition saying they didn't want him at the club, the likelihood is that very few if any of those signatories were actually Oldham fans.

60,000 doesn't even fill OT, I don't think it's a fair representation on football fans, and expect 70% of the signatures are from feminist campaigners with ulterior motives. They probably don't even watch the sport round up on bbc news

[Sanguine]

Would anyone here be happy with a convicted rapist playing for Reading?

Yup - Don't think footballers need publicity on their private lives. I think he would also come in and work his socks off to prove that he wasn't a bad egg.

It's not like he dragged a girl off a street and raped her, they had a threesome, she felt like a slut, she cried rape, he got found unfairly (in my opinion) guilty.

He's not a fcuking dangerous predator ffs. He did what any lad would do when offered the chance of a threesome.

I don't agree with your assertions, but taking the bold point a bit further, 'any lad' doesn't get such an opportunity. And that's what poor Ched is missing; he is appealing and says the sex was consensual, ok - but outside of that he was/is part of a footballer's culture of picking up 'easy meat' and being able to do so because he is a footballer. And that's where the 'role model' element comes into it.

If he'd come out and apologised immediately for his involvement and said 'and you know what, behaving like that makes me a bit of a dick, that's no way to treat women', he might find the public less against him. Might.

[Winston Smith]

He did what any lad would do when offered the chance of a threesome.

MFM or FFM?