Goal-line technology and reviews

[Albert Spangler]

Albert, a honk, a whistle, a firework - anything that signals the correct decision would be fine with me.

Would a honker have seen the handball if the whistler didn't?

[Royal Rother]

Probably not but a video goal review ref may have done.

[Royalclapper]

The players in the Premier league are just so quick and fit these days that the human eye is just not enough anymore. People pay bloody good money to go and watch their teams, then you get the d*ckhead show ponies who blatantly cheat and dive because it's all about them. The referees aren't there to cheat anyone, they just need assistance when they cannot possibly be everywhere.

[Stuboo]

... Is even more of a ****ing moronic dinosaur than I previously thought you were.

No other way of putting it, sorry.

The way you put it is harsh, but I agree that we need video technology for goal decisions. Wouldn't take up too much time - how many goals are scored in an average game anyway.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Happy to be a dinosaur.

Same


We haven't even got goal line technology and already people whine they want more. And then they'll want a little more. And a little more. By then it will be too late and football is ruined

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Happy to be a dinosaur.

Same


We haven't even got goal line technology and already people whine they want more. And then they'll want a little more. And a little more. By then it will be too late and football is ruined

How does it ruin football exactly? People pay their money & want to see the right result. My football is ruined more by losing 2 points because of a handballed goal. It hasn't ruined tennis in any way at all.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Tennis is stop-start already - football is a continuous play with stops at unpredictable times.

As soon as you stop the game for a replay it's a different game - but if you don't stop it for a replay you then risk wiping out something that happened between the incident in question and the replay.

So a big yes for instant notification of line decisions, a massive no for anything that stops the game or winds it back.

[Libertine]

When there is a goal, and one which needs to be reviewed, the game has stopped. There are often 2+ minute long delays to tend to injured players, so stopping a game for a brief period of time to review a goal isn't a big deal imo...

[Albert Spangler]

Happy to be a dinosaur.

Same


We haven't even got goal line technology and already people whine they want more. And then they'll want a little more. And a little more. By then it will be too late and football is ruined

How does it ruin football exactly? People pay their money & want to see the right result. My football is ruined more by losing 2 points because of a handballed goal. It hasn't ruined tennis in any way at all.

Completely right.

And as long as the team score more goals than the opposition then we'll be fine.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

All goals. Costs nothing and doesn't delay the game.

OK, so take a ball that may have crossed the line. The ball is cleared and the defending team are on the attack but are stopped in their tracks because the ref has stopped the game to review a video to see if it crossed the line. It didn't.

Why would you have to stop the game for the video review?

The ref has a mic, and just requests a review through that.

I don't think you'd need to review every goal, as most go in without any complaints.

It could be interesting if applied to penalties though. Would players be so keen on diving if they knew they'd be booked once it went for review?

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

As soon as you stop the game for a replay it's a different game - but if you don't stop it for a replay you then risk wiping out something that happened between the incident in question and the replay.

So what?

That even happens now occasionally when a linesman spots something a referee has missed, and play carries on without the ref seeing him.

[philM]

On MOTD they can't always agree about contact v dive when they've spent ages looking from every angle.

Video evidence would work for handball, but not much else, assuming we're getting goal line technology.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

As soon as you stop the game for a replay it's a different game - but if you don't stop it for a replay you then risk wiping out something that happened between the incident in question and the replay.

So what?

That even happens now occasionally when a linesman spots something a referee has missed, and play carries on without the ref seeing him.

It's easy when a ball appears to be scored and a replay says it shouldn't have been, but if a goal doesn't appear to have been scored and should have been awarded play might carry on for 5 minutes or so - and a goal at the other end might have been scored, a player sent-off or injured in that time. Cancelling that out would be a nightmare and completely unworkable - and give us a completely different game.

[Ian Royal]

Happy to be a dinosaur. The game needs to be left alone. Goal line technology maybe, but nothing else. What constitutes a big decision? Every kick of the ball plays its part in the game. As has been said so many times before, at some point during the season a poor decision will go our way and we'll gladly accept it.

How long would you give officials to review video Parky? The pace of the game would be very different and more and more decisions would be challenged. A slippery slope.

Just review goals.

Wouldn't interrupt the game at all.

It's pathetic that the biggest game in the world doesn't use the technology when it's available.

What about goals that aren't given so there is no break in play?

[notloyalenuffroyal]

Surely this is the perfect example of where the team / captain's appeal could come in. One per game or half. If you have used it. Tough. If not - today would have worked. 3 of the team were round the ref asking him about it. They knew. A quick watch back by 4th official, job is a goodun. Don't think Ba would have had any complaints.
If Jobi had already wasted the appeal on something else then we'd have no complaints.

My six year old.... " can't they just take away the goal now daddy!"

[Ian Royal]

Surely this is the perfect example of where the team / captain's appeal could come in. One per game or half. If you have used it. Tough. If not - today would have worked. 3 of the team were round the ref asking him about it. They knew. A quick watch back by 4th official, job is a goodun. Don't think Ba would have had any complaints.
If Jobi had already wasted the appeal on something else then we'd have no complaints.

My six year old.... " can't they just take away the goal now daddy!"

I'm against interrupting the game and having video replays in general (although not against video reviews for punishing cheating after a match), but I do actually quite like the idea of a captain's review system. Perhaps not even 1 a game or half, but say 19/23 a season. Works in hockey which is much more fluid than cricket and closer to football.

[RoyalBlue]

The review system certainly seems to work well in hockey. By restricting it to one review per team per half (review remains live if upheld), there wouldn't be much disruption and, given that captains wouldn't want to waste the review with spurious claims, you might not see any during some games.

[royalsteve]

Happy to be a dinosaur. The game needs to be left alone. Goal line technology maybe, but nothing else. What constitutes a big decision? Every kick of the ball plays its part in the game. As has been said so many times before, at some point during the season a poor decision will go our way and we'll gladly accept it.

How long would you give officials to review video Parky? The pace of the game would be very different and more and more decisions would be challenged. A slippery slope.

agere what would we have to talk about. as soon as we have vid tech it will be the end of free flowing football, football will be like american non football before you know it and i certainly will stop watching it, american non football really sucks

[royalsteve]

They need to sort it out this could cost us in the long run

First chelsea now today were not having much luck

This. How we didn't get a draw - let alone win - at Chelsea still irks me greatly.... and now today.

Having said that, I thought Marriner had a very good game today and even watching live on the telly, it took the second slo-mo to spot the hand..... but Ba's celebration gave it away. Purely unintentional from him, it was a shit glancing header that hit his hand.

agreed, his first goal was class though, though it didnt help our defence went to sleep which fortunately today didnt happen often.

so far i though stoke were dire, chelsea were good for first 20 mins, dire for next 50 (worse than newcastle and stoke), excellent last 20, west brom were dire but we were worse, spurs were a different class, newcastle were dire. we have been unlucky though but at least today was a better performance, better temp, better closing down in the right areas

[urz13]

Surely this would be the best way to inplement it:

Goal scored: defending team can ask for a review. Doesn't hold the game up as the other team are still celebrating.
Penalty awarded: as above, can review in the time before the kick is taken.
Goal not awarded: that's what goal line technology is for. Offside? Tough shit.
Penalty not awarded: tough shit.

Can't think of any other scenarios where a goal should stand tbh that isn't covered by goal line technology.