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Re: The Non - League thread

by Royal Rother » 06 Mar 2022 13:22

Windsor 0-1 Southall

Sounds close maybe - it wasn't.

I think the Southall 'keeper touched the ball with his hands once in open play, catching a corner. And probably only touched the ball with hands a couple of other times for goal kicks. Windsor looked like a plucky team playing against a team from a few leagues higher, relying on defence.

Windsor have a young keeper (looks about 17) who is on loan from Brentford's academy (I believe) who was excellent, making one amazing double save. Under 6' so probably won't have a career in the pro game unfortunately but very impressive.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Royals and Racers » 06 Mar 2022 17:02

Royal Rother Windsor 0-1 Southall

Sounds close maybe - it wasn't.

I think the Southall 'keeper touched the ball with his hands once in open play, catching a corner. And probably only touched the ball with hands a couple of other times for goal kicks. Windsor looked like a plucky team playing against a team from a few leagues higher, relying on defence.

Windsor have a young keeper (looks about 17) who is on loan from Brentford's academy (I believe) who was excellent, making one amazing double save. Under 6' so probably won't have a career in the pro game unfortunately but very impressive.

Windsor keeper- Conaill Ryan- from reports he played brilliantly last Saturday as well

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Sutekh » 07 Mar 2022 19:38

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Bracknell Town[/b] 3-0 Northwood att 267 – 2 more for Bowerman and one from McLeish-White, had ‘Robins’ three up by the hour mark – Hanwell’s surprise reverse at home to ‘Moles’ means Bracknell now only need 2 wins and a draw to be certain of the title (if my maths are correct) - with 8 games remaining. They host lowly Guernsey this coming Wed.


Pretty much done and dusted by close of play on Saturday if Bracknell beat Guernsey and Chertsey and Basingstoke lose.

Think Bracknell’s next game after Guernsey is at Ashford Town (Middx) on Saturday week.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Four Of Clubs » 10 Mar 2022 00:08

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Pretty much done and dusted by close of play on Saturday if Bracknell beat Guernsey and Chertsey and Basingstoke lose.

Think Bracknell’s next game after Guernsey is at Ashford Town (Middx) on Saturday week.


...well a bit nearer after tonight.... (Wed)
- managed a dash down to Bottom Meadow (aka SB Stadium) for :

Isthmian 1-South Central
Bracknell 2-0 Guernsey
- 'Robins' led v.early on courtesy of yet another Bowerman pen and settled it late with a towering header from Bayliss.
Dave Tarpey came on 2nd half but Bracknell were content to hold what they had.
Sheltered in the bar there for some of both halves - as was a tad nippy - went in the smaller seated stand for most of 1st half but Guernsey TV had set up at one end, close behind me and the commentary was beginning to wear after a while - fair play to the young lad for doing it though and the camera/sound crew with him.
Crowd was 288
Hosts need realistically 6 points from their remaining 8 games for the title.
They are definitely performing one possibly two levels, better than their opponents -look very well organized under BW - are stronger and faster all over the pitch and don't concede many (18 clean sheets I think I heard the visiting commentary mention)
- admittedly Guernsey are no great shakes this season but never seriously troubled the opposition keeper, bar one moment early 2nd half when the back line lost concentration and nearly let in the prolific Ross Allen but the ball was scrambled off the line.
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..will maybe do a round up of a fairly busy NL midweek later

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Re: The Non - League thread

by NathStPaul » 10 Mar 2022 08:58

Of the opinion Bracknell may as well go balls to the wall next season, just pump the money in and go for it. The ground is going to be interesting though, definitely don't think it meets the requirements for National League South.


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Re: The Non - League thread

by paultheroyal » 10 Mar 2022 11:24

Have Bracknell always been this poorly supported?

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Re: The Non - League thread

by NathStPaul » 10 Mar 2022 11:27

paultheroyal Have Bracknell always been this poorly supported?

A lot of it is down to location, not sure many supporters approve of the move to Sandhurst. Remember when I used to go on a regular basis a few years ago they'd get well over 300 in a lower division than they are now.

Really hoping the plans I have seen come to light, I know the local MP is on board with it. Should Bracknell pull off the move they want then I could see them getting to Maidenhead's level within 5 years.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by paultheroyal » 10 Mar 2022 11:29

Seems to be a real demand for non league football - great to see. Basingstoke Town is the one for me. Renting a ground, crowds over 800. Real potential there if the get the stadium sorted.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by tmesis » 10 Mar 2022 17:54

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Bracknell 2-0 Guernsey

Hosts need realistically 6 points from their remaining 8 games for the title.

Maybe you saw an out of date table.

Chertsey can get a maximum of 82 points, and Bracknell are on 79.

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paultheroyal Have Bracknell always been this poorly supported?

A lot of it is down to location, not sure many supporters approve of the move to Sandhurst. Remember when I used to go on a regular basis a few years ago they'd get well over 300 in a lower division than they are now.

Really hoping the plans I have seen come to light, I know the local MP is on board with it. Should Bracknell pull off the move they want then I could see them getting to Maidenhead's level within 5 years.


Bracknell's average this season in 378, which isn't bad for Step 4, especially not playing in their own town at the moment.

Basingstoke's average is 531.

Bracknell averaged about 240 when pushing for the Hellenic League title for a couple of seasons, a few years back, but prior to that, crowds rarely got above double figures. Given how utterly abysmal the club was for most of the 21st century, it's not surprising. And it was hardly great in the 20th century either.

There's certainly potential. The town has a population of 85000 now, and a club that seems to have ambition could draw people in. Before the current owners came in, the club seemed content to just drift along as amateurs.


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Re: The Non - League thread

by Four Of Clubs » 10 Mar 2022 18:49

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Bracknell 2-0 Guernsey

Hosts need realistically 6 points from their remaining 8 games for the title.

Maybe you saw an out of date table.

Chertsey can get a maximum of 82 points, and Bracknell are on 79..


Yeah soz- spot on - I evidently based that on the table at KO :roll: - as said earlier in the thread somewhere, could win if Chertsey & Basingstoke falter this w/e or probably with a win at Ashford T in their next game.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Sutekh » 11 Mar 2022 09:10

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Bracknell 2-0 Guernsey

Hosts need realistically 6 points from their remaining 8 games for the title.

Maybe you saw an out of date table.

Chertsey can get a maximum of 82 points, and Bracknell are on 79.

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paultheroyal Have Bracknell always been this poorly supported?

A lot of it is down to location, not sure many supporters approve of the move to Sandhurst. Remember when I used to go on a regular basis a few years ago they'd get well over 300 in a lower division than they are now.

Really hoping the plans I have seen come to light, I know the local MP is on board with it. Should Bracknell pull off the move they want then I could see them getting to Maidenhead's level within 5 years.


Bracknell's average this season in 378, which isn't bad for Step 4, especially not playing in their own town at the moment.

Basingstoke's average is 531.

Bracknell averaged about 240 when pushing for the Hellenic League title for a couple of seasons, a few years back, but prior to that, crowds rarely got above double figures. Given how utterly abysmal the club was for most of the 21st century, it's not surprising. And it was hardly great in the 20th century either.

There's certainly potential. The town has a population of 85000 now, and a club that seems to have ambition could draw people in. Before the current owners came in, the club seemed content to just drift along as amateurs.


For the record the club did manage to reach the heady heights of Division 1 of the Isthmian league in 1986 (think that equates to step 3 of non league these days) but that only lasted a couple of seasons and is still the highest level they’ve ever reached.

Before then Bracknell largely sat in the Athenian and then London Spartan leagues but given there wasn’t much in the way of a co-ordinated “pyramid” before the end of the 1970s it’s not a surprise that clubs at that level just drifted to some degree.

Since that peak in the Isthmian Bracknell have definitely drifted with the only highlights being, I think, the losing finalist in the B&B Cup at some point and getting to be thrashed 4-0 at Lincoln in the first round of the FA Cup in 2000. League wise it’s just been drifting in the lowest Isthmian division then the lowest Southern League division and then down into Hellenic waters for about 7 years so unsurprising crowds became a bit on the low side in that time.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by tmesis » 11 Mar 2022 17:52

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For the record the club did manage to reach the heady heights of Division 1 of the Isthmian league in 1986 (think that equates to step 3 of non league these days) but that only lasted a couple of seasons and is still the highest level they’ve ever reached.

Before then Bracknell largely sat in the Athenian and then London Spartan leagues but given there wasn’t much in the way of a co-ordinated “pyramid” before the end of the 1970s it’s not a surprise that clubs at that level just drifted to some degree.

Since that peak in the Isthmian Bracknell have definitely drifted with the only highlights being, I think, the losing finalist in the B&B Cup at some point and getting to be thrashed 4-0 at Lincoln in the first round of the FA Cup in 2000. League wise it’s just been drifting in the lowest Isthmian division then the lowest Southern League division and then down into Hellenic waters for about 7 years so unsurprising crowds became a bit on the low side in that time.

They missed on promotion to the Isthmian premier by a point, I believe, before a plunge back down the divisions.

Just checking, and indeed it was by a point (they had a better goal difference than the team that came 2nd, and only two went up then.

It didn't help that Larges Lane was a bit of a dump, to put it mildly. Even by the standards of Bracknell's town centre back then, it was pretty ugly.


Getting relegeted from that same division that year were Maidenhead, replaced by Woking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986%E2%8 ... ian_League

Note the two clubs that finished above them were Leytonstone/Ilford and Leyton-Wingate.

Leytonstone/Ilford merged with Walthamstow two years later, and with Dagenham a few years after that.

Leyton-Wingate, in contrast, "unmerged" to become Leyton and Wingate (two separate clubs) before Leyton merged with Walthamstow Pennant to become Leyton Pennant, before changing their name to Walthamstow, after which a breakaway club called Leyton was formed (all within a decade), although that club went bust in 2011, after the owners were sent to prison for tax fraud. The ground is still there, but looks a bit battered, tucked away behind the Hare & Hounds pub in Leyton. Looked a pretty decent ground too.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Four Of Clubs » 11 Mar 2022 17:59

Sutekh League wise it’s just been drifting in the lowest Isthmian division then the lowest Southern League division and then down into Hellenic waters for about 7 years so unsurprising crowds became a bit on the low side in that time.

...have to look back through my archives but I'm sure I saw them humiliated a few times at Larges La whilst in the lower reaches of the Hellenic.

Also watched their fall through to that base, with some close to double-figure losses whilst sinking down and out of the Southern South West - would have been 09/10 season. They leaked an astonishing 187 goals in 42 games - gaining only 6 pts with two wins in that campaign.

Didn't perform much better the season after that, in the Hellenic and followed that up in 11/12 with another free-fall plummet and over 100 goals conceded to drop to STEP06 - but they did bounce back immediately at that point - (somewhat ironically) due to their ground grading i.e. they did actually HAVE lights .... and a minor league re-structure which reduced the size of the Premier.

They only finished 5th of 15 in 2012/13 - behind Rayners La, Woodley, Penn & Tylers and Headington Amateurs - none of whom were promoted to the Premier. :?


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here's tomorrow's NL fixtures - both national competitions at 1/4 Final stage:
[UPDATE Sat AM - appears to have been a bit of wet stuff around in the west and down in Sussex - my nearest choice today at Billingshurst is OFF - - will try and keep up to date]

Saturday 12th March

FA Trophy Quarter Finals
1 Bromley v Solihull Moors
2 Needham Market v Stockport County
3 Fri 19:45 Notts County 1-2 Wrexham att 3,170
4 Dagenham & Redbridge v York City

FA Vase Quarter Finals
1 Whitchurch Alport v Newport Pagnell Town
2 Loughborough University v Wythenshawe Town
3 Littlehampton Town v North Shields
4 Hamworthy United v Southall

League
NAT
Altrincham v Eastleigh
17:20 Boreham Wood v Chesterfield live on BT Sport
Wealdstone v Weymouth
Woking v Maidenhead United
NATN
Brackley Town v AFC Telford United
NATS
Chelmsford City v Eastbourne Borough
Chippenham Town v Dartford
Dorking Wanderers v Hemel Hempstead Town
Dulwich Hamlet v Havant & Waterlooville
Ebbsfleet United v Oxford City
Hungerford Town v Billericay Town
Slough Town v Maidstone United
St Albans City v Concord Rangers
Tonbridge Angels v Braintree Town
Welling United v Bath City

SLP-S
Harrow Borough v Hartley Wintney
Metropolitan Police v Weston-super-Mare
Taunton Town v Hayes & Yeading United
Yate Town v Farnborough
SL1-C
Wantage Town v Harlow Town
SL1-S
Plymouth Parkway PP Highworth Town waterlogged

IL-P
Corinthian-Casuals v Leatherhead
IL1-SC
Bedfont Sports v Marlow
Chipstead v Westfield
South Park v Northwood
Sutton Common Rovers v Chalfont St Peter
Thatcham Town
v Binfield
Tooting & Mitcham United v Basingstoke Town
Uxbridge v Chertsey Town

CCL-PN
CB Hounslow United v Burnham
Edgware Town v Windsor
Hanworth Villa v Abbey Rangers
Holyport
v Ascot United
North Greenford United v Wokingham & Emmbrook
St Panteleimon v Egham Town
Tadley Calleva
v Spelthorne Sports
Wembley v Virginia Water
CCL-PS
14:15 Guildford City v Jersey Bulls
Badshot Lea v Colliers Wood United
Banstead Athletic v AFC Croydon Athletic
Beckenham Town v Molesey
Camberley Town v Walton & Hersham
Fleet Town v Redhill
Horley Town v Sheerwater
Knaphill
v Frimley Green
Raynes Park Vale v Cobham
CCL-1
AFC Hayes v Sandhurst Town
Bedfont & Feltham v Bagshot
Berks County v Hillingdon Borough @ Binfield
Chalvey Sports v London Lions @ Burnham
Cove v Kensington & Ealing Borough
Eversley & California v FC Deportivo Galicia
Wallingford Town v AFC Aldermaston
Woodley United
v London Samurai Rovers @Rivermoor

HELL- P
Longlevens AFC v Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Shrivenham
v Westfields
HELL-1
Malmesbury Vics v Abingdon United
Milton United
v Pershore Town

SSM-P
Flackwell Heath v Aylesbury Vale Dynamos
Holmer Green v Harpenden Town
Risborough Rangers v Crawley Green
SSM-1
Irchester United v Amersham Town
Kidlington Reserves v Bedford
Letchworth Garden City Eagles v Penn & Tylers Green
London Tigers v Winslow United @ Amersham
Long Crendon v Ampthill Town @ Oxford City
Thame United Reserves v Wellingborough Whitworth

WESS-P
Fareham Town v Alresford Town
WESS-1
Downton v Ash United
Fleet Spurs
v Newport (IOW)
Ringwood Town v Andover Town
Romsey Town PP Andover New Street - waterlogged
Whitchurch United v Folland Sports


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Re: The Non - League thread

by Loafer » 12 Mar 2022 12:07

Off the watch Littlehampton vs North shields today with my son. About 15 minutes drive from mine and will be a good game. Littlehampton have a forward who has scored 54 league goals already this year.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Sutekh » 13 Mar 2022 09:30

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For the record the club did manage to reach the heady heights of Division 1 of the Isthmian league in 1986 (think that equates to step 3 of non league these days) but that only lasted a couple of seasons and is still the highest level they’ve ever reached.

Before then Bracknell largely sat in the Athenian and then London Spartan leagues but given there wasn’t much in the way of a co-ordinated “pyramid” before the end of the 1970s it’s not a surprise that clubs at that level just drifted to some degree.

Since that peak in the Isthmian Bracknell have definitely drifted with the only highlights being, I think, the losing finalist in the B&B Cup at some point and getting to be thrashed 4-0 at Lincoln in the first round of the FA Cup in 2000. League wise it’s just been drifting in the lowest Isthmian division then the lowest Southern League division and then down into Hellenic waters for about 7 years so unsurprising crowds became a bit on the low side in that time.

They missed on promotion to the Isthmian premier by a point, I believe, before a plunge back down the divisions.

Just checking, and indeed it was by a point (they had a better goal difference than the team that came 2nd, and only two went up then.

It didn't help that Larges Lane was a bit of a dump, to put it mildly. Even by the standards of Bracknell's town centre back then, it was pretty ugly.


Getting relegeted from that same division that year were Maidenhead, replaced by Woking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986%E2%8 ... ian_League

Note the two clubs that finished above them were Leytonstone/Ilford and Leyton-Wingate.

Leytonstone/Ilford merged with Walthamstow two years later, and with Dagenham a few years after that.

Leyton-Wingate, in contrast, "unmerged" to become Leyton and Wingate (two separate clubs) before Leyton merged with Walthamstow Pennant to become Leyton Pennant, before changing their name to Walthamstow, after which a breakaway club called Leyton was formed (all within a decade), although that club went bust in 2011, after the owners were sent to prison for tax fraud. The ground is still there, but looks a bit battered, tucked away behind the Hare & Hounds pub in Leyton. Looked a pretty decent ground too.


Looked a bit more at the 86/87 Isthmian season. Wycombe won the premier league and Yeovil were runners up (though quite what Yeovil were doing in the Isthmian league is a bit of a wonder). Wokingham (17th) Windsor (13th) and Slough (3rd) were also in that division.

Maidenhead United were in Bracknell’s division and were relegated to Division 2 South at the end of the season. In Divsion 2 South itself Woking and Marlow were both promoted while Hungerford finished ninth.

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by Sutekh » 13 Mar 2022 09:45

Following results yesterday in the Isthmian South Central division, Bracknell need 4 points to win the title and secure promotion from their remaining 7 games.

They travel to Ashford Town (Middx) on Saturday and then have a visit from Tooting on Monday 21st March. Given the goal difference though (Bracknell’s is at least 25 better than anyone else in the division) 1 win will be enough realistically.

Chertsey have a home game v Hanwell Town on Saturday.

South Central Top 8

# Team Pl W D L F A Diff Pts
1. Bracknell Town 29 26 1 2 71 10 61 79
2. Chertsey Town 29 18 7 4 60 35 25 61
3. Bedfont Sports 29 17 6 6 68 36 32 57
4. Basingstoke 28 17 6 5 53 36 17 57
5. Uxbridge 29 16 7 6 54 34 20 55
6. Hanwell Town 28 16 6 6 65 29 36 54
7. Marlow 28 15 5 8 44 32 12 50
8. Binfield 29 12 8 9 48 43 5 44

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Four Of Clubs » 13 Mar 2022 13:36

Round up of yesterday's NL games

Saturday 12th March

FA Trophy Quarter Finals
1 Bromley 3-1 Solihull Moors
2 Needham Market 0-3 Stockport County
4 Dagenham & Redbridge 1-1 York City 6-7 pens

FA Vase Quarter Finals
1 Whitchurch Alport 1-2 Newport Pagnell Town att 1,200
2 Loughborough University 2-0 Wythenshawe Town att 1,081
3 Littlehampton Town 1-0 North Shields att 2,245
4 Hamworthy United 1-1 Southall att 741 7-6p

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League
NAT
Altrincham 4-0 Eastleigh
Boreham Wood 1-1 Chesterfield
Wealdstone 3-2 Weymouth
Woking 1-0 Maidenhead United – Nicke Kabamba on 94’ his first goal for Cards since joining on loan in Jan 22 (from Northampton I think - much travelled striker - started out at Hayes then has had spells at multiple levels incl Burnham, Aldershot, Portsmouth, Hartlepool and Kilmarnock :? )

NATN
Brackley Town 2-1 AFC Telford United
NATS
Chelmsford City 0-1 Eastbourne Borough
Chippenham Town 4-2 Dartford
Dorking Wanderers 2-1 Hemel Hempstead Town
Dulwich Hamlet 0-1 Havant & Waterlooville
Ebbsfleet United 3-1 Oxford City
Hungerford Town
1-4 Billericay Town
Slough Town 2-1 Maidstone United
St Albans City 0-1 Concord Rangers
Tonbridge Angels 0-0 Braintree Town
Welling United 1-1 Bath City

SLP-S
Harrow Borough 2-1 Hartley Wintney
Metropolitan Police 3-0 Weston-super-Mare
Taunton Town 1-1 Hayes & Yeading United att 916
Yate Town 0-2 Farnborough
- only three points separate the top-four with Met Police heading the pile above H&Y - 'boro in 3rd have games in hand and a point further back are Taunton on a charge - top on form over the last 10 league games.

SL1-C
Wantage Town 0-1 Harlow Town

IL-P
Corinthian-Casuals 1-2 Leatherhead
IL1-SC
Bedfont Sports 4-1 Marlow
Chipstead 3-0 Westfield
South Park 3-1 Northwood
Sutton Common Rovers 4-2 Chalfont St Peter
Thatcham Town
0-1 Binfield att 153 – Beauchamp 44’
Tooting & Mitcham United 0-1 Basingstoke Town att 280 – Brown 17’
Uxbridge 1-3 Chertsey Town
- just to add to the table (posted above by Sutekh) - Hanwell are pushing for a PO spot so will be no easy touch for Chertsey
- Basingstoke host lowly SCR next Saturday. So it'll be a 6 -way fight for the 4 PO spots - with Hanwell, Uxbridge and Marlow's respective form over the last 6 games cause for some concern.
- Binfield are probably too far back to contend now. They go to Westfield this Tuesday


CCL-PN
CB Hounslow United 2-1 Burnham
Edgware Town 3-2 Windsor - Windsor led 2-0 within 5’ (Hammond & Muhemba) - were still 2-1 up going into the last 15’ but shipped two in two minutes.
Hanworth Villa 1-0 Abbey Rangers - 1st edged past 2nd and virtually sealed champions spot. Would be interesting to see the crowd size, when it gets published - probably on twitter somewhere?
Mathematically Villa could still be caught by Southall who have 12 games left but they suffered a morale sapping exit from the Vase yesterday
- would probably need to win every remaining game and hope that the leaders' form collapses totally - bear in mind HV have only dropped 6 points and are unbeaten all season, seems a forlorn prospect?


Holyport 3-0 Ascot United - important win for 'port keeps them in touch with CBH just above them - who also won yesterday - and are only 5 points back from Wok & Emm. and possibly safety. Should the bottom two continue to win VW and Burnham only 2 pts further clear, might start to show some nerves.

North Greenford United 3-0 Wokingham & Emmbrook 'Sumas' host 2nd placed Abbey on Tuesday evening
St Panteleimon 1-2 Egham Town
Tadley Calleva
4-0 Spelthorne Sports
Wembley 2-3 Virginia Water
CCL-PS
Badshot Lea 2-1 Colliers Wood United
Banstead Athletic P-P AFC Croydon Athletic
Beckenham Town {NINE} 9-1 Molesey
Camberley Town 1-4 Walton & Hersham
Fleet Town 2-3 Redhill
Guildford City 0-7 {SEVEN} Jersey Bulls - 'Bulls' in 3rd are at 1st placed W&H this coming Tue - they have a couple of games in hand, so a vital clash in regards to the title prospects. Sandwiched between them are Beckenham - who are very definitely strong contenders. 'Bulls' had surprisingly dropped points in their previous two matches before this thumping win at the Spectrum.
-they have still only lost one league game - their season opener - at Beckenham.
The much anticipated return fixture on the Island , that may well be a title decider, is scheduled for Wednesday the 6th April.


Horley Town 2-3 Sheerwater
Knaphill
1-0 Frimley Green
Raynes Park Vale 4-0 Cobham
CCL-1
AFC Hayes 2-0 Sandhurst Town
Bedfont & Feltham 0-1 Bagshot - rare away win for Bagshot sees them leap off bottom slot above Chalvey Sports and Cove - Woodley still under some threat of falling into the bottom three. That apparently might mean consideration for being replaced but I doubt there are many/any Step07 clubs queuing up with suitable ground grading. Relegation from this league is almost always voluntary.
- Middlesex County & TVL-P only usually get up by ground-sharing. The Surrey Elite or whatever it's called now, comprise of either 3G College/School Grounds or villages with no 'football-furniture' nor prospects of being allowed to construct any. I suspect the most likely candidates next season might be clubs from the Hants Senior league but only if they aren't placed in the Wessex footprint?
- I might have a trawl around the top end of these local 'feeders' in the next month or so, to see if there are any potential new clubs for the CCL. There's often a handy if speculative thread somewhere on NLM.


Berks County 2-0 Hillingdon Borough
Chalvey Sports 1-3 London Lions
Cove 0-2 Kensington & Ealing Borough
Eversley & California 3-2 FC Deportivo Galicia
Wallingford Town 2-0 AFC Aldermaston
Woodley United
1-0 London Samurai Rovers

HELL- P
Longlevens AFC 0-2 Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Shrivenham
2-2 Westfields

- ticked off another one in this division to get nearer the 'champagne' mark (Anorak speak for completing a league - but is a fairy arbitrary 'self-awarded' honour - especially in this League, what with the continual re-orgs/coming and goings in and out of the Midland and Western leagues -not to mention the bewildering geographical configurations of their Div 2s)
- got along a blissfully quiet M4 / M38 N of Bristol up into to the Severn lowlands for:

HELL-P Thornbury Town 0-1 Malvern Town - very drab average quality game at a simple enough set-up
- small detached 'house' like club building with kitchen serving hot pastries drinks and bottled beers (limited selection)
- a very bobbly pitch and blustery conditions didn't make for a great contest. hosts coming into this game off the back a few thumping home defeats in the league
- neither side really deserved the points but a rare moment of skill and power from a big lump of a late sub for the visitors, showing a surprisingly good 'turn of heel', burst clear away down the left and drive under the young keeper - to save us from the dreaded 0-0.
Malvern were in 4th before KO but it's difficult to see them as title contenders on this showing.
- champions are almost certainly ex-SL club Bishops Cleeve, currently 'lodging' at Evesham. They have a big lead: - potential 2nd promotion slot between Cribbs (Bristol), Westbury or Malvern -but most clubs have only 4 or less games left - indeed Cribbs actually have only one - so it's most likely Westbury looking at restructuring and PPG levels to see if they can progress - not sure about grading there either.


HELL-1
Malmesbury Vics 2-3 Abingdon United
Milton United
0-2 Pershore Town


SSM-P
Flackwell Heath 4-0 Aylesbury Vale Dynamos att 246 - Heathen's wretched start which ended with Marcus Richardson's departure, almost certainly rules them out of contention but their form this year has been somewhat stellar by comparison
Holmer Green P-P Harpenden Town
Risborough Rangers 0-0 Crawley Green - rare blank and dropped points for Rangers – overtaken at the top again by New Salamis who won at Tring - rather obscure ex-Royals-link here that I've just 'wiki-tripped' over :lol: they (NS) are/were reportedly managed by Danny Bailey!
SSM-1
Irchester United 2-1 Amersham Town - Amersham lose at bottom place United who gain their first home win of the season
Kidlington Reserves 2-2 Bedford
Letchworth Garden City Eagles 1-2 Penn & Tylers Green
London Tigers 2-2 Winslow United
Long Crendon 2-3 Ampthill Town
Thame United Reserves 0-3 Wellingborough Whitworth

WESS-P
Fareham Town 1-2 Alresford Town
WESS-1
Downton 5-0 Ash United
Fleet Spurs
1-3 Newport (IOW)
Ringwood Town 1-2 Andover Town
Whitchurch United
1-4 Folland Sports

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Loafer » 13 Mar 2022 14:02

Four Of Clubs Round up of yesterday's NL games

Saturday 12th March

FA Trophy Quarter Finals
1 Bromley 3-1 Solihull Moors
2 Needham Market 0-3 Stockport County
4 Dagenham & Redbridge 1-1 York City 6-7 pens

FA Vase Quarter Finals
1 Whitchurch Alport 1-2 Newport Pagnell Town att 1,200
2 Loughborough University 2-0 Wythenshawe Town att 1,081
3 Littlehampton Town 1-0 North Shields att 2,245
4 Hamworthy United 1-1 Southall att 741 7-6p

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League
NAT
Altrincham 4-0 Eastleigh
Boreham Wood 1-1 Chesterfield
Wealdstone 3-2 Weymouth
Woking 1-0 Maidenhead United – Nicke Kabamba on 94’ his first goal for Cards since joining on loan in Jan 22 (from Northampton I think - much travelled striker - started out at Hayes then has had spells at multiple levels incl Burnham, Aldershot, Portsmouth, Hartlepool and Kilmarnock :? )

NATN
Brackley Town 2-1 AFC Telford United
NATS
Chelmsford City 0-1 Eastbourne Borough
Chippenham Town 4-2 Dartford
Dorking Wanderers 2-1 Hemel Hempstead Town
Dulwich Hamlet 0-1 Havant & Waterlooville
Ebbsfleet United 3-1 Oxford City
Hungerford Town
1-4 Billericay Town
Slough Town 2-1 Maidstone United
St Albans City 0-1 Concord Rangers
Tonbridge Angels 0-0 Braintree Town
Welling United 1-1 Bath City

SLP-S
Harrow Borough 2-1 Hartley Wintney
Metropolitan Police 3-0 Weston-super-Mare
Taunton Town 1-1 Hayes & Yeading United att 916
Yate Town 0-2 Farnborough
- only three points separate the top-four with Met Police heading the pile above H&Y - 'boro in 3rd have games in hand and a point further back are Taunton on a charge - top on form over the last 10 league games.

SL1-C
Wantage Town 0-1 Harlow Town

IL-P
Corinthian-Casuals 1-2 Leatherhead
IL1-SC
Bedfont Sports 4-1 Marlow
Chipstead 3-0 Westfield
South Park 3-1 Northwood
Sutton Common Rovers 4-2 Chalfont St Peter
Thatcham Town
0-1 Binfield att 153 – Beauchamp 44’
Tooting & Mitcham United 0-1 Basingstoke Town att 280 – Brown 17’
Uxbridge 1-3 Chertsey Town
- just to add to the table (posted above by Sutekh) - Hanwell are pushing for a PO spot so will be no easy touch for Chertsey
- Basingstoke host lowly SCR next Saturday. So it'll be a 6 -way fight for the 4 PO spots - with Hanwell, Uxbridge and Marlow's respective form over the last 6 games cause for some concern.
- Binfield are probably too far back to contend now. They go to Westfield this Tuesday


CCL-PN
CB Hounslow United 2-1 Burnham
Edgware Town 3-2 Windsor - Windsor led 2-0 within 5’ (Hammond & Muhemba) - were still 2-1 up going into the last 15’ but shipped two in two minutes.
Hanworth Villa 1-0 Abbey Rangers - 1st edged past 2nd and virtually sealed champions spot. Would be interesting to see the crowd size, when it gets published - probably on twitter somewhere?
Mathematically Villa could still be caught by Southall who have 12 games left but they suffered a morale sapping exit from the Vase yesterday
- would probably need to win every remaining game and hope that the leaders' form collapses totally - bear in mind HV have only dropped 6 points and are unbeaten all season, seems a forlorn prospect?


Holyport 3-0 Ascot United - important win for 'port keeps them in touch with CBH just above them - who also won yesterday - and are only 5 points back from Wok & Emm. and possibly safety. Should the bottom two continue to win VW and Burnham only 2 pts further clear, might start to show some nerves.

North Greenford United 3-0 Wokingham & Emmbrook 'Sumas' host 2nd placed Abbey on Tuesday evening
St Panteleimon 1-2 Egham Town
Tadley Calleva
4-0 Spelthorne Sports
Wembley 2-3 Virginia Water
CCL-PS
Badshot Lea 2-1 Colliers Wood United
Banstead Athletic P-P AFC Croydon Athletic
Beckenham Town {NINE} 9-1 Molesey
Camberley Town 1-4 Walton & Hersham
Fleet Town 2-3 Redhill
Guildford City 0-7 {SEVEN} Jersey Bulls - 'Bulls' in 3rd are at 1st placed W&H this coming Tue - they have a couple of games in hand, so a vital clash in regards to the title prospects. Sandwiched between them are Beckenham - who are very definitely strong contenders. 'Bulls' had surprisingly dropped points in their previous two matches before this thumping win at the Spectrum.
-they have still only lost one league game - their season opener - at Beckenham.
The much anticipated return fixture on the Island , that may well be a title decider, is scheduled for Wednesday the 6th April.


Horley Town 2-3 Sheerwater
Knaphill
1-0 Frimley Green
Raynes Park Vale 4-0 Cobham
CCL-1
AFC Hayes 2-0 Sandhurst Town
Bedfont & Feltham 0-1 Bagshot - rare away win for Bagshot sees them leap off bottom slot above Chalvey Sports and Cove - Woodley still under some threat of falling into the bottom three. That apparently might mean consideration for being replaced but I doubt there are many/any Step07 clubs queuing up with suitable ground grading. Relegation from this league is almost always voluntary.
- Middlesex County & TVL-P only usually get up by ground-sharing. The Surrey Elite or whatever it's called now, comprise of either 3G College/School Grounds or villages with no 'football-furniture' nor prospects of being allowed to construct any. I suspect the most likely candidates next season might be clubs from the Hants Senior league but only if they aren't placed in the Wessex footprint?
- I might have a trawl around the top end of these local 'feeders' in the next month or so, to see if there are any potential new clubs for the CCL. There's often a handy if speculative thread somewhere on NLM.


Berks County 2-0 Hillingdon Borough
Chalvey Sports 1-3 London Lions
Cove 0-2 Kensington & Ealing Borough
Eversley & California 3-2 FC Deportivo Galicia
Wallingford Town 2-0 AFC Aldermaston
Woodley United
1-0 London Samurai Rovers

HELL- P
Longlevens AFC 0-2 Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Shrivenham
2-2 Westfields

- ticked off another one in this division to get nearer the 'champagne' mark (Anorak speak for completing a league - but is a fairy arbitrary 'self-awarded' honour - especially in this League, what with the continual re-orgs/coming and goings in and out of the Midland and Western leagues -not to mention the bewildering geographical configurations of their Div 2s)
- got along a blissfully quiet M4 / M38 N of Bristol up into to the Severn lowlands for:

HELL-P Thornbury Town 0-1 Malvern Town - very drab average quality game at a simple enough set-up
- small detached 'house' like club building with kitchen serving hot pastries drinks and bottled beers (limited selection)
- a very bobbly pitch and blustery conditions didn't make for a great contest. hosts coming into this game off the back a few thumping home defeats in the league
- neither side really deserved the points but a rare moment of skill and power from a big lump of a late sub for the visitors, showing a surprisingly good 'turn of heel', burst clear away down the left and drive under the young keeper - to save us from the dreaded 0-0.
Malvern were in 4th before KO but it's difficult to see them as title contenders on this showing.
- champions are almost certainly ex-SL club Bishops Cleeve, currently 'lodging' at Evesham. They have a big lead: - potential 2nd promotion slot between Cribbs (Bristol), Westbury or Malvern -but most clubs have only 4 or less games left - indeed Cribbs actually have only one - so it's most likely Westbury looking at restructuring and PPG levels to see if they can progress - not sure about grading there either.


HELL-1
Malmesbury Vics 2-3 Abingdon United
Milton United
0-2 Pershore Town


SSM-P
Flackwell Heath 4-0 Aylesbury Vale Dynamos att 246 - Heathen's wretched start which ended with Marcus Richardson's departure, almost certainly rules them out of contention but their form this year has been somewhat stellar by comparison
Holmer Green P-P Harpenden Town
Risborough Rangers 0-0 Crawley Green - rare blank and dropped points for Rangers – overtaken at the top again by New Salamis who won at Tring - rather obscure ex-Royals-link here that I've just 'wiki-tripped' over :lol: they (NS) are/were reportedly managed by Danny Bailey!
SSM-1
Irchester United 2-1 Amersham Town - Amersham lose at bottom place United who gain their first home win of the season
Kidlington Reserves 2-2 Bedford
Letchworth Garden City Eagles 1-2 Penn & Tylers Green
London Tigers 2-2 Winslow United
Long Crendon 2-3 Ampthill Town
Thame United Reserves 0-3 Wellingborough Whitworth

WESS-P
Fareham Town 1-2 Alresford Town
WESS-1
Downton 5-0 Ash United
Fleet Spurs
1-3 Newport (IOW)
Ringwood Town 1-2 Andover Town
Whitchurch United
1-4 Folland Sports


Loughborough University must be the only side who play University football and are a semi professional team right? Some achievement for them to get to the last 4 of the fa vase isn't it?

They must be really doing against the odds to be doing that, albeit being a sports University must have some ex pro players there

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Re: The Non - League thread

by Sutekh » 13 Mar 2022 14:39

Loafer
Loughborough University must be the only side who play University football and are a semi professional team right? Some achievement for them to get to the last 4 of the fa vase isn't it?

They must be really doing against the odds to be doing that, albeit being a sports University must have some ex pro players there


Don’t think Loughborough University (also known as Loughborough Students FC) play in university football as they are members of the UCL (United Counties League) playing in the Premier North division which feeds into the southern league. They are currently 4th in that league so obviously are pretty useful this season. They’re currently managed by the ex Ipswich, Brum and Wolves player Jamie Clapham.

One thing I do note in the vase this season is the demise of the northern clubs which are usually very strong.

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Re: The Non - League thread

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Mar 2022 14:42

……and in another NL world a long way from us….

Pheonix (and ex league) club Macclesfield 4-0 win against Ashton Athletic in the North West Counties Premier League (Step 5) confirms their title in front of a crowd of over 4k

The Ernest Armstrong Memorial Cup saw Washington and Bedlington Terriers play out a 3-3 draw in front of a crowd of 40. Washington went on to win on penalties…..25-24 in a shoot out of 54 taken in total :shock:

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