The Non - League thread

[Four Of Clubs]

Sandhurst away at Brook House tonight is Postponed- now on Thursday 27th at Chalfont St Peter.

...and Brook House have brought forward their May B/H fixture (A v Cove) to Sat 29th Apr -
- which means they could now be playing Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri and Sat to complete the season!

...the weather may have a say in that, not to mention availability -

Aldermaston's game tonight vs Penn & Tylers is OFF - home side cannot raise an 11 - but they are due to play tomorrow (Tue) at Scours v Woodley then Thu H v Bagshot - on current trends that one might be a waiting game .... to see who cries off first!!

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...and not all of the PO line-ups have been settled yet - particularly the STEP04/05 relegation one's - so I doubt they'll be found in one place.
- the STEP06 promotion POs aren't entirely set either - with more regulation league games taking place this/next week before the scheduled PO dates this coming w/e. CCL have over 50 games outstanding I believe and a fair number would affect the upper and lower reaches??

Hellenic Div One Final is this Friday
- S-Fs this week - tomorrow (Tue) I think?
Hartpury v Stratford
Milton v Clanfield

[Sutekh]

Is there a website with a full list of all playoffs?

Don’t think there is one website for all non league fixture (particularly when it come to the play offs) so it’s pretty much a case of looking at the websites for each league or going to the clubs themselves. From what I do know the following SL play off semis are this week (all one leg affairs I believe):

Wednesday 26th April (7:45pm):

SOUTHERN LEAGUE

Premier Central
Coalville Town v Rushall Olympic
Leiston v Nuneaton Borough

Premier South
Bracknell Town v Chesham United
Truro City v Poole Town

Division1 Central
Biggleswade v Ware
Didcot Town v Walthamstow

Division 1 South
Hamworthy United v Evesham United (at Dorchester Town FC)
Sholing v Wimborne Town

[Four Of Clubs]

Here's the STEP03/04 POs for the Pitching-In Isthmian League

TUESDAY 25 APRIL 2023
ISTHMIAN - – NORTH 19:45
AFC Sudbury vs Grays Athletic
Lowestoft Town vs Heybridge Swifts

ISTHMIAN - - SOUTH EAST 19:45
Ramsgate vs Hythe Town
Whitehawk vs Beckenham Town

WEDNESDAY 26 APRIL 2023
ISTHMIAN – – PREMIER 19:45
Canvey Island vs Aveley
Hornchurch vs Cray Wanderers

ISTHMIAN - - SOUTH CENTRAL
Marlow vs Hanworth Villa
Walton & Hersham vs Northwood

Finals
South East: Friday 28th at 19.45 PM.
North: Saturday 29th at 15:00PM.
South Central: Sunday 30th at 15:00 PM.
Premier: Monday 1st at 15:00PM.

The highest placed finalist will host.

[Royals and Racers]

Fixtures show that Sandhurst are playing
Thursday, Saturday, Sunday.
Rising Ballers who they play on Sunday are playing Tues, Thurs, Sat,Sun ,Mon.

[NathStPaul]

Off to watch Ascots Allied side this evening. They are playing Camberley Town in a playoff to decide the league title as they both finished level on points.

Ascot have a better goal difference and head to head, seems largely unnecessary tbh.

[tmesis]

Premier South
Bracknell Town v Chesham United
Truro City v Poole Town

Bracknell have home advantage through the play-offs. They only lost 4 home league games all season. Three of those were to Chesham, Truro and Poole.

[paultheroyal]

Off to Fratton Park next week for Hampshire Senior Cup Final

Basingstoke Vs AFC Bournemouth

Be a great occasion and celebration:

[Royals and Racers]

Sandhurst away at Brook House tonight is Postponed- now on Thursday 27th at Chalfont St Peter.

...and Brook House have brought forward their May B/H fixture (A v Cove) to Sat 29th Apr -
- which means they could now be playing Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri and Sat to complete the season!

...the weather may have a say in that, not to mention availability -

Aldermaston's game tonight vs Penn & Tylers is OFF - home side cannot raise an 11 - but they are due to play tomorrow (Tue) at Scours v Woodley then Thu H v Bagshot - on current trends that one might be a waiting game .... to see who cries off first!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
...and not all of the PO line-ups have been settled yet - particularly the STEP04/05 relegation one's - so I doubt they'll be found in one place.
- the STEP06 promotion POs aren't entirely set either - with more regulation league games taking place this/next week before the scheduled PO dates this coming w/e. CCL have over 50 games outstanding I believe and a fair number would affect the upper and lower reaches??

Hellenic Div One Final is this Friday
- S-Fs this week - tomorrow (Tue) I think?
Hartpury v Stratford
Milton v Clanfield

Some match at Milton. Home team 2-0 up at HT then 3-2 down until they get a pen on 99 mins. Penalty hit the bar and lino said it crossed the line. Milton won 3-2 on pens. They will play Hartpury who won 4-0

[Royal Rother]

Windsor won, but so did Chalfont St Peter, so Windsor relegated.

Step 6 here we come!

Jeez.

[Four Of Clubs]

I toddled up to Stag Meadow this eve, for a rare Windsor 'away' win vs 'lodgers' VW 1-2 - left it v.late too - nr post header (Jeanes) on 90'. Had to hold out for a further 8' stoppage time but tbf had as many late chances as their opponents

VW in 2nd gear for most of the game - fell behind just before the break.
Read later they'd made 11 changes to the side that played on Sat - they have a S-F this Friday v Farnham and are in another County Surrey Senior Final next week v Met Pol. @ Dorking.
Came out pressing 2nd half and deservedly levelled after some stout rearguard from Windsors youngsters.

No crowd figure yet my 'guesstimate' would be above 150.

Probably just as well they did win as Jets won away on the night though I'm certain their GD would have kept them off last place.

Sadly for them Chalfont St. P won away too @ Harefield.

Leaves them 2nd bottom - and pondering if they have avoided the drop- need to be 5th worst or better of the 16 Step05 clubs finishing in that position.
....seems a tad convoluted to me and not necessarily confirmed as being applied to that criteria -
- might well be some 'demotions' in play - voluntary or imposed - on finance or grading.... regardless of this 'ineligibility' points deduction thing being mooted?

I haven't checked across all the other leagues yet but to end up as one of the 4 worst finishers seems a bit grim.... I'm sure they'd be better off on PPG than the Wessex & Hellenic equivalents for example?
EDIT ...Pagham won their final game this evening on a quite sensational round of games elsewhere in the Wessex Prem (more later on that) .. and go above Windsor on the PPG calculation....

Windsor do appear to have an inferior record to the CCL-PS 'candidates' too, unless Banstead lose both their remaining games?

[Sutekh]

I toddled up to Stag Meadow this eve, for a rare Windsor 'away' win vs 'lodgers' VW 1-2 - left it v.late too - nr post header (Jeanes) on 90'. Had to hold out for a further 8' stoppage time but tbf had as many late chances as their opponents

VW in 2nd gear for most of the game - fell behind just before the break.
Read later they'd made 11 changes to the side that played on Sat - they have a S-F this Friday v Farnham and are in another County Surrey Senior Final next week v Met Pol. @ Dorking.
Came out pressing 2nd half and deservedly levelled after some stout rearguard from Windsors youngsters.

No crowd figure yet my 'guesstimate' would be above 150.

Probably just as well they did win as Jets won away on the night though I'm certain their GD would have kept them off last place.

Sadly for them Chalfont St. P won away too @ Harefield.

Leaves them 2nd bottom - and pondering if they have avoided the drop- need to be 5th worst or better of the 16 Step05 clubs finishing in that position.
....seems a tad convoluted to me and not necessarily confirmed as being applied to that criteria -
- might well be some 'demotions' in play - voluntary or imposed - on finance or grading.... regardless of this 'ineligibility' points deduction thing being mooted?

I haven't checked across all the other leagues yet but to end up as one of the 4 worst finishers seems a bit grim.... I'm sure they'd be better off on PPG than the Wessex & Hellenic equivalents for example?
EDIT ...Pagham won their final game this evening on a quite sensational round of games elsewhere in the Wessex Prem (more later on that) .. and go above Windsor on the PPG calculation....

Windsor do appear to have an inferior record to the CCL-PS 'candidates' too, unless Banstead lose both their remaining games?

Couldn’t VW be subject to disciplinary action over making 11 changes esp. given they lost?

[NathStPaul]

Windsor won, but so did Chalfont St Peter, so Windsor relegated.

Step 6 here we come!

Jeez.

They won't stick with Big Mick will they? Absolute dinosaur.

They'd be best served getting a young, ambitious coach in with new ideas, could do a lot worse than speak to Slough Town and get one of their young coaches in. Windsor could then get access to a lot of the more talented Slough youngsters. The Windsor board can't be too proud to ask for help and links to bigger clubs, it is a desperate situation.

[NathStPaul]

Off to Bracknell tonight. The big one!

[Loafer]

Final day in the national league north is Saturday and currently 10 teams are still within a chance of the playoffs

4. Alfreton Town 68
5. Brackley Town 68
6. Scarborough Athletic 67
7. Buxton 67
8. Chorley 66
9. Kidderminster Harriers 66
10. Gloucester City 65
11. Curzon Ashton 65
12. Spennymoor Town 65
13. Darlington 64

[Sutekh]

Final day in the national league north is Saturday and currently 10 teams are still within a chance of the playoffs

4. Alfreton Town 68
5. Brackley Town 68
6. Scarborough Athletic 67
7. Buxton 67
8. Chorley 66
9. Kidderminster Harriers 66
10. Gloucester City 65
11. Curzon Ashton 65
12. Spennymoor Town 65
13. Darlington 64

Go on Darlington!

[Royal Rother]

Windsor won, but so did Chalfont St Peter, so Windsor relegated.

Step 6 here we come!

Jeez.

They won't stick with Big Mick will they? Absolute dinosaur.

They'd be best served getting a young, ambitious coach in with new ideas, could do a lot worse than speak to Slough Town and get one of their young coaches in. Windsor could then get access to a lot of the more talented Slough youngsters. The Windsor board can't be too proud to ask for help and links to bigger clubs, it is a desperate situation.

Bit harsh on Mick there - he worked wonders on no budget for 7 years in his previous time at Windsor.

You might be right in your assessment but thing is, he's not a coach. As manager, with no budget, the amount of time it takes just getting 11 players out on the pitch makes it tough enough. And everything he's done has been with no pay himself, (and none available for a coach, decent ones would surely expect to be paid, even at this level) so it's been a tough old gig. Hopefully fortunes and the vision will change overnight with whatever path of new ownership comes to fruition, and yes, it may well be time for a new set up across the board, but he's a really good bloke, genuine, open and honest with a real love for the club.

We have had a number of loan players from Slough in the past (incl this season), so I think the relationship is there, and he ain't too proud to beg... (well, to ask anyway)!

[Loafer]

Final day in the national league north is Saturday and currently 10 teams are still within a chance of the playoffs

4. Alfreton Town 68
5. Brackley Town 68
6. Scarborough Athletic 67
7. Buxton 67
8. Chorley 66
9. Kidderminster Harriers 66
10. Gloucester City 65
11. Curzon Ashton 65
12. Spennymoor Town 65
13. Darlington 64

Go on Darlington!

No idea what fixtures are but assume some of these teams are playing each other

[NathStPaul]

Windsor won, but so did Chalfont St Peter, so Windsor relegated.

Step 6 here we come!

Jeez.

They won't stick with Big Mick will they? Absolute dinosaur.

They'd be best served getting a young, ambitious coach in with new ideas, could do a lot worse than speak to Slough Town and get one of their young coaches in. Windsor could then get access to a lot of the more talented Slough youngsters. The Windsor board can't be too proud to ask for help and links to bigger clubs, it is a desperate situation.

Bit harsh on Mick there - he worked wonders on no budget for 7 years in his previous time at Windsor.

You might be right in your assessment but thing is, he's not a coach. As manager, with no budget, the amount of time it takes just getting 11 players out on the pitch makes it tough enough. And everything he's done has been with no pay himself, (and none available for a coach, decent ones would surely expect to be paid, even at this level) so it's been a tough old gig. Hopefully fortunes and the vision will change overnight with whatever path of new ownership comes to fruition, and yes, it may well be time for a new set up across the board, but he's a really good bloke, genuine, open and honest with a real love for the club.

We have had a number of loan players from Slough in the past (incl this season), so I think the relationship is there, and he ain't too proud to beg... (well, to ask anyway)!

Yeah perhaps it is harsh, never met the man so it wasn't a personal dig at him but he would appear from the outside to be one of the old school. Like you alluded to he has been largely stitched up for years so I will retract my criticism.

I know I have said it to you on numerous occasions before but there is the makings of a really successful non-league club there. Just needs to be taken over and backed. I've said to a few of the guys I go to Bracknell games with that if I won a significant amount of money it would be one of the first things I bought, there is a lot there to work with imo.

[Stranded]

Final day in the national league north is Saturday and currently 10 teams are still within a chance of the playoffs

4. Alfreton Town 68
5. Brackley Town 68
6. Scarborough Athletic 67
7. Buxton 67
8. Chorley 66
9. Kidderminster Harriers 66
10. Gloucester City 65
11. Curzon Ashton 65
12. Spennymoor Town 65
13. Darlington 64

Go on Darlington!

Looking at the fixtures as well, it is actually possible that they make it in - as very few of those sides play each other - GD is the likely barrier though, as to qualify one of the results needed is a draw between Chorley and Gloucester, meaning Darlington would need a 9 goal win to sneak past them.

[Royal Rother]

They won't stick with Big Mick will they? Absolute dinosaur.

They'd be best served getting a young, ambitious coach in with new ideas, could do a lot worse than speak to Slough Town and get one of their young coaches in. Windsor could then get access to a lot of the more talented Slough youngsters. The Windsor board can't be too proud to ask for help and links to bigger clubs, it is a desperate situation.

Bit harsh on Mick there - he worked wonders on no budget for 7 years in his previous time at Windsor.

You might be right in your assessment but thing is, he's not a coach. As manager, with no budget, the amount of time it takes just getting 11 players out on the pitch makes it tough enough. And everything he's done has been with no pay himself, (and none available for a coach, decent ones would surely expect to be paid, even at this level) so it's been a tough old gig. Hopefully fortunes and the vision will change overnight with whatever path of new ownership comes to fruition, and yes, it may well be time for a new set up across the board, but he's a really good bloke, genuine, open and honest with a real love for the club.

We have had a number of loan players from Slough in the past (incl this season), so I think the relationship is there, and he ain't too proud to beg... (well, to ask anyway)!

Yeah perhaps it is harsh, never met the man so it wasn't a personal dig at him but he would appear from the outside to be one of the old school. Like you alluded to he has been largely stitched up for years so I will retract my criticism.

I know I have said it to you on numerous occasions before but there is the makings of a really successful non-league club there. Just needs to be taken over and backed. I've said to a few of the guys I go to Bracknell games with that if I won a significant amount of money it would be one of the first things I bought, there is a lot there to work with imo.

Oh he's definitely "old school"!! I suspect it had to be old school to work under the conditions in place under the current regime.

I guess if he writes his autobiography about his life in football a few stories would come out!

The future backing is definitely there - we just have to wait and see which bid is successful. Stott and Steve Gillham (club President) have unequivocally backed his mysterious investors, the fans seem to be in favour of the bid from ex-manager Mark Cooper. I have no preference really. We just need it to be resolved in time for a proper pre-season with new players.