Great save

[soggy biscuit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iieYg7Sm8FM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebigsoccer%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D1154136%26page%3D46&feature=player_embedded#t=12



An oldie but I have only just seen it for the first time

[The whole year inn]

why head it? not as if he was an outfield player, just push it over with your hands

[TheMaraudingDog]

why head it? not as if he was an outfield player, just push it over with your hands

Morning Mr Simpleton.

It would have been a pass back had he caught it. The 'great' save part is from the header anyway.

[soggy biscuit]

The boy has done well just to get back far enough that a header will keep it out but to get up and immediately stop a point blank header is unbelievable. Who is it anyway?

[papereyes]

Gregory Coupet

[Archie's penalty]

The save after it was just as amazing. Like a superhero!

[Maguire]

Christ this is ancient. What next, Banks v Pele?

[ScottishRoyal]

why head it? not as if he was an outfield player, just push it over with your hands

Morning Mr Simpleton.

It would have been a pass back had he caught it. The 'great' save part is from the header anyway.

Oh dear .

TWYI doesn't mention catching it, just pushing it over the bar, and palming the ball does not bring the backpass rule into play. As for the save, it's pretty obviuos which one you meant.

This is typical of Spanish league, stupidity and brilliance mere seconds apart.

[Row Z Royal]

TWYI doesn't mention catching it, just pushing it over the bar, and palming the ball does not bring the backpass rule into play.

Er, yes it does.

[Archie's penalty]

TWYI doesn't mention catching it, just pushing it over the bar, and palming the ball does not bring the backpass rule into play.

Er, yes it does.

Not if you don't catch it!

[ScottishRoyal]

TWYI doesn't mention catching it, just pushing it over the bar, and palming the ball does not bring the backpass rule into play.

Er, yes it does.

No it doesn't. Catching or holding the ball does, touching it with your hand does not. Do you really think every save made averting an own goal is a backpass?

[Archie's penalty]

TWYI doesn't mention catching it, just pushing it over the bar, and palming the ball does not bring the backpass rule into play.

Er, yes it does.

No it doesn't. Catching or holding the ball does, touching it with your hand does not. Do you really think every save made averting an own goal is a backpass?

That would be, quite frankly, bizarre.

[Row Z Royal]

TWYI doesn't mention catching it, just pushing it over the bar, and palming the ball does not bring the backpass rule into play.

Er, yes it does.

No it doesn't. Catching or holding the ball does, touching it with your hand does not. Do you really think every save made averting an own goal is a backpass?

When a defender slices a clearance, it's not a pass back to the 'keeper so said 'keeper can do what he like with it.

When the defender clearly and deliberately passes back to the 'keeper, then, funnily enough, that's a back pass.

Most 'keepers wallop it away so as to remove any doubt or because there isn't time to check with the ref.

[Archie's penalty]

When a defender slices a clearance, it's not a pass back to the 'keeper so said 'keeper can do what he like with it.

When the defender clearly and deliberately passes back to the 'keeper, then, funnily enough, that's a back pass.

Most 'keepers wallop it away so as to remove any doubt or because there isn't time to check with the ref.

Yeah but what happens if a defender by accident aims a back pass into the top corner? The keeper can save it with his hands, no?

[ScottishRoyal]

When a defender slices a clearance, it's not a pass back to the 'keeper so said 'keeper can do what he like with it.

When the defender clearly and deliberately passes back to the 'keeper, then, funnily enough, that's a back pass.

Most 'keepers wallop it away so as to remove any doubt or because there isn't time to check with the ref.

I know what a back pass is and you're not addressing the point by the way. An indirect free kick for a back pass can only be given if the 'keeper catches or holds the ball.














Oh, and

[Row Z Royal]

When a defender slices a clearance, it's not a pass back to the 'keeper so said 'keeper can do what he like with it.

When the defender clearly and deliberately passes back to the 'keeper, then, funnily enough, that's a back pass.

Most 'keepers wallop it away so as to remove any doubt or because there isn't time to check with the ref.

Yeah but what happens if a defender by accident aims a back pass into the top corner? The keeper can save it with his hands, no?

That's right.

What's your point?

[ScottishRoyal]

When a defender slices a clearance, it's not a pass back to the 'keeper so said 'keeper can do what he like with it.

When the defender clearly and deliberately passes back to the 'keeper, then, funnily enough, that's a back pass.

Most 'keepers wallop it away so as to remove any doubt or because there isn't time to check with the ref.

Yeah but what happens if a defender by accident aims a back pass into the top corner? The keeper can save it with his hands, no?

That's right.

What's your point?

Try reading the bold text! You're agreeing that it is ok to handle (but not catch) a backpass by the way.

[Row Z Royal]

Yeah but what happens if a defender by accident aims a back pass into the top corner? The keeper can save it with his hands, no?

That's right.

What's your point?

Try reading the bold text! You're agreeing that it is ok to handle (but not catch) a backpass by the way.

Is a catch not a save?

[Archie's penalty]

Is a catch not a save?

I meant parry it or tip the ball over hth.

[Row Z Royal]

Is a catch not a save?

I meant parry it or tip the ball over hth.

FFS

He can't use his hands if it's a clear and deliberate back pass in the referee's eyes.

The back-pass rule refers to two clauses within Law 12 of the Laws of the Game of association football . These clauses prohibit the goalkeeper from intentionally handling the ball when a team-mate uses his/her feet to intentionally pass them the ball, or from intentionally handling the ball when receiving directly from a throw-in. The goalkeeper is still permitted to use his feet and other body parts to redirect the ball. Conversely, if an outfield player passes the ball back using any part of the body besides the feet, the keeper may pick up the ball. An unintentional pass or touch is not considered an offence.

The actual offence committed is the handling of the ball by the goalkeeper, not the ball being passed back. An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team from the place where the offence occurred, i.e., where the goalkeeper deliberately handled the ball. If the goalkeeper handles the ball outside the penalty area (whether receiving the ball from a team-mate or not), it is a hand ball rather than a back-pass, and a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team where the offence occurred.

The back-pass rule was introduced in 1992 to discourage time-wasting and overly defensive play, after the 1990 World Cup was described as exceedingly dull, rife with back-passing and goalkeepers holding up the ball. Also, goalkeepers would frequently drop the ball and dribble it around, only to pick it up again once opponents came closer to put them under pressure; a typical time-stalling technique. An example was when Republic of Ireland goalkeeper John O'Rourke kept the ball for over 6 minutes against Egypt, by dribbling it around his box and picking it up again. Therefore, another rule was introduced at the same time as the back-pass rule, with the same intentions. This rule prohibits the goalkeeper from handling the ball again once he has released it for play. This offence would also result in an indirect free kick to the opposition.