Brendan Rogers Please

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Deathy » 14 May 2009 18:52

Super_horns Some bloke on our site thinks you have been talking to Rodgers for weeks...and its only a matter of time before an annoucement is made (they are just spreading the time out to make it less obvious)

He seems pretty certain its right but doesn't seem like your style to go behind the backs of other clubs and nick their managers....


If this is true, we would have done it with your chairman's consent. Just all cloke and dagger, as Reading almost always prefer to do things.

Coppell was always leaving this summer, he's hinted at this break for over 18 months. Being so, RFC will have been preparing their wish list well in advance, so maybe this isn't all that far off.

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by Royal Lady » 17 May 2009 10:25

Cookie Legend but not a very good manager - esp in the Championship.


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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by North Somerset Royal » 17 May 2009 11:02

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Super_horns Some bloke on our site thinks you have been talking to Rodgers for weeks...and its only a matter of time before an annoucement is made (they are just spreading the time out to make it less obvious)

He seems pretty certain its right but doesn't seem like your style to go behind the backs of other clubs and nick their managers....


If this is true, we would have done it with your chairman's consent. Just all cloke and dagger, as Reading almost always prefer to do things.

Coppell was always leaving this summer, he's hinted at this break for over 18 months. Being so, RFC will have been preparing their wish list well in advance, so maybe this isn't all that far off.


The story that it was a done deal that Rodgers would replace Coppell whatever the outcome of our season was circulating in the Upper West from around the beginning of March. Given the speed with which Coppells stepping down was reported on the OS on Tuesday ( it was on by the time I got home from the match) it seems unlikely that the decision was taken then and if the Club knew some time back that he was going they are bound to have made plans. The current process may well be just a smokescreen to hide any tapping up that has gone on.


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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Matt de K » 17 May 2009 11:05

Surely, after all the Pardew shenanegans, Reading would be the last club to "tap up" a contracted manager??

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Dirk Gently » 17 May 2009 12:27

Matt de K Surely, after all the Pardew shenanegans, Reading would be the last club to "tap up" a contracted manager??


Correct - but you can still attract managers through the correct channels - asking the club for permission to speak to them, and then agreeing compensation.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by andrew1957 » 17 May 2009 15:47

Some of you have short memories. Coppell was contracted to Brighton when we approached him and we paid compensation to Brighton for his release. In that case Brighton agreed. The only problem with Rogers would be if Watford refused a deal - but in the end what is the point of keeping a disgruntled manager who wants a bigger job.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by The Quiet Man » 17 May 2009 16:57

Weren't Brighton in the division below and Coppell on a rolling contract. Rogers has been in less than 6 months and presumably has around 2 years on his contract possibly at £4-500,000 a year which would make compensation high even if it could be satisfactorily agreed and would need him to locate a backroom team as well. Doesn't sound like a decision our chairman would normally take.

If it goes on our normal pattern then it will be a relatively unheard of manager like Pardew or Mcghee will be appointed who are bringing an experienced no2. Burnley have done it with Coyle this year and apparently there are a lot of old pros doing their coaching badges. If it is someone under contract DiMatteo at MK dons may have "taken them as far as he can".


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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Royal Rother » 17 May 2009 17:17

In December 2007 Coppell was quoted in the Daily Telegraph as saying:

"I'm looking very shortly at having some time off," said Coppell.

"My first stint at Crystal Palace was nine years, bits here and there and the Brentford, Brighton and four years here. I am probably due a break.

"I can't enjoy management. I work all week to win a game. If we win I have an unbelievable high for 20 minutes. But then it's thinking about the next game.

"If we are beaten it's a bottomless pit. It goes through my mind when I get beat, do I need this?"

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Royal Rother » 17 May 2009 17:20

The Quiet Man Rogers has been in less than 6 months and presumably has around 2 years on his contract...


1 year rolling contract.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Tommy Jones » 17 May 2009 20:23

If we, the fans, and the everyone at the club are prepared to give Brendan Rodgers time to develop his own team playing his passing game, then Im all in favour.......But lets remember this could take anything between 3 to 5 years before we can expect to reach such dizzy heights again !!!

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Friday's Child » 18 May 2009 07:14

Mourinho rates him as a manager and TBH not being ITK, that will do me. Watford begin to play the ball on the floor, and he has managed to get a very poor team (IMO) up to 13th from relegation nightmares.

Add to the equation that he loves this club, and knows many of the kids coming through to the first team, I think that with a team of Dolan and / or Parkinson at his side, this club would have some of the edge that the Pardew days gave us. Not discrediting Coppell of course (check out his record, duh!), but as we are going through a period of change I would view this particular type of change as a positive one. Taking on a manager like Curbishley would be more of a "damage-limiting" and risk-free approach, Rodgers could turn this club into something really special.


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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Dirk Gently » 18 May 2009 07:49

As far as I'm concerned it's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Curbishley!

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Deathy » 18 May 2009 08:02

Dirk Gently As far as I'm concerned it's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Curbishley!


Why is that, Dirk?

Did an amazing job with Chalton on limited funds. Very similar model her at Reading. I think this would be an amazing appointment.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Dirk Gently » 18 May 2009 10:24

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Dirk Gently As far as I'm concerned it's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Curbishley!


Why is that, Dirk?

Did an amazing job with Chalton on limited funds. Very similar model her at Reading. I think this would be an amazing appointment.


IMHO it'd be a real backwards step - in a lot of ways I feel he's backward looking instead of forward looking, and I think it'd take him too long to get up to speed with the players. He tried and failed with West Ham where he didn't come in and take control - he came in to a club in crisis with rock bottom morale and lots of dressing-room in-fighting and wasn't able to stop it. I think he's too weak and too nice, and won't impose himself onto players.

Never forget that he took over when West Ham had imploded, with all their Billy Big Bollocks Baby Bentleys and their complete loss of discipline and motivation - he subsequently said he knew it was happening but there was nothing he could do to stop it - he even did an article in the Sunday Times talking about the indiscipline and the high-money card schools on the team coach that were dividing the team. Curbs - you're the manager - do something, don't just write newspaper articles about it!

People remember what he did for Charlton, but forget his record at West Ham.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Wycombe Royal » 18 May 2009 10:38

Dirk Gently People remember what he did for Charlton, but forget his record at West Ham.

He has a better win record than Zola and people see him as doing a good job.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Royalwaster » 18 May 2009 11:32

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Dirk Gently People remember what he did for Charlton, but forget his record at West Ham.

He has a better win record than Zola and people see him as doing a good job.


I'd be over the moon with Alan Curbishley - but am starting to doubt we'll get him. I think it would have happened by now if it were really on the cards like people seemed to imply it was for quite a while. His record at Charlton was fantastic - took them up to the Prem and kept them there on a very similar budget as RFC. I think he did pretty OK at West Ham, having to deal with a terrible situation - and got sacked pretty harshly.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by Hoop Blah » 18 May 2009 11:47

I agree with Dirk on Curbishly.

He did well at Charlton, partly because of his history there, when he was a hungry young manager. I put a lot of weight in that, and although I think he's a good manager I just don't think he's really what we need. We need invigorating and an injection of energy.

Don't forget it took them along time to get things right at Charlton. I just don't think he's the right man for us right now.

If we'd got him in 18 months ago to tweak Coppell's Premiership squad and keep us moving forward slowly then he would've been perfect. That's not what we need now though.

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Re: Brendan Rogers Please

by andrew1957 » 18 May 2009 11:49

Hoop Blah I agree with Dirk on Curbishly.

He did well at Charlton, partly because of his history there, when he was a hungry young manager. I put a lot of weight in that, and although I think he's a good manager I just don't think he's really what we need. We need invigorating and an injection of energy.

Don't forget it took them along time to get things right at Charlton. I just don't think he's the right man for us right now.

If we'd got him in 18 months ago to tweak Coppell's Premiership squad and keep us moving forward slowly then he would've been perfect. That's not what we need now though.


Spot on - a young hungry manager is the way to go. I hope we get Rogers.

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