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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by melonhead » 14 Jul 2014 10:51

paddy20 Its better to be permanently pessimistic as occasionally you get cheered up!!


its scientifically proven that positive people are happier, healthier, and live longer, as well as getting more than their fair share of 'Luck'

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by loyalroyal4life » 14 Jul 2014 11:48

This squad needs time....


Think that says it all

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by bcubed » 14 Jul 2014 13:15

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paddy20 Its better to be permanently pessimistic as occasionally you get cheered up!!


its scientifically proven that positive people are happier, healthier, and live longer, as well as getting more than their fair share of 'Luck'


You are Noel Edmonds and ICMFP

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by sandman » 14 Jul 2014 13:18

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paddy20 Its better to be permanently pessimistic as occasionally you get cheered up!!


its scientifically proven that positive people are happier, healthier, and live longer, as well as getting more than their fair share of 'Luck'


Personally I feel positive that next week someone else will do a study claiming the opposite is true.

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Agent Balti » 14 Jul 2014 13:32

Let's be realistic (for once.) We're not in no fit state to challenge this season, we're still in a huge state of transition and probably will be for the entire course of the season.

I don't think we'll play any worse football than last season, but neither do I think we'll actually improve beyond 7th.

Anyone who thinks we should be competing for the title, I think, is frankly deloluded. Maybe we should be, but we're not in the position to due to many factors that we do have to be rational with. So, set the sights lower a bit and enjoy the journey.


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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Royal Lady » 14 Jul 2014 14:04

IN for relegation dog fight post Xmas! :wink:

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Schards#2 » 14 Jul 2014 14:25

Agent Balti Let's be realistic (for once.) We're not in no fit state to challenge this season, we're still in a huge state of transition and probably will be for the entire course of the season.

I don't think we'll play any worse football than last season, but neither do I think we'll actually improve beyond 7th.

Anyone who thinks we should be competing for the title, I think, is frankly deloluded. Maybe we should be, but we're not in the position to due to many factors that we do have to be rational with. So, set the sights lower a bit and enjoy the journey.


I think last year's championship suggests that any team that can get its head in the right place and get some momentum behind them has the ability to challange at the top. I believe that, even with this weakened squad, there is enough talent in it to make a challange IF they are mentally right and all singing from the same hymnsheet. If not, and the senior players are constantly looking for the exit, then we also have the potential to struggle horribly.


Sadly, the offloading of Drenthe completely would be a good step in the right direction.

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Snowball » 14 Jul 2014 14:35

Agent Balti


We're not in no fit state to challenge this season..





Good to know we should be challenging

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Agent Balti » 14 Jul 2014 14:44

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I think last year's championship suggests that any team that can get its head in the right place and get some momentum behind them has the ability to challange at the top. I believe that, even with this weakened squad, there is enough talent in it to make a challange IF they are mentally right and all singing from the same hymnsheet. If not, and the senior players are constantly looking for the exit, then we also have the potential to struggle horribly.


Sadly, the offloading of Drenthe completely would be a good step in the right direction.


Clearly, Drenthe has been seen as a disruptive influence and is now being forced out. It's not surprise that Nigel wants more of a 'group' to strive together and be a much stronger unit. As we've seen in the World Cup, a team ethic trumps a squad of individuals. Mentally, we need to be much better than last year - they had no belief in stringing a set of results together. Having a stable midfield will be a welcome change also.

Personally, I'm happy to see the team player better, and use the next season as a springboard rather than thinking they're automatically good enough. Even Nigel appears to be in that mindframe. I can just see that some will be pretty much demanding a top six spot when I don't think we've got all the necessary tools to do so (yet.)


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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by SydenhamRoyal » 14 Jul 2014 21:19

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paddy20 Its better to be permanently pessimistic as occasionally you get cheered up!!


its scientifically proven that positive people are happier, healthier, and live longer, as well as getting more than their fair share of 'Luck'


I am not sure whether it is not scientifically proven that people who are happier, healthier, live longer, and have more than their fair share of luck tend to be more positive

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Ian Royal » 14 Jul 2014 22:47

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FridaysGhost I just love the sound of people who fly in the face of reality. We have a squad bereft of many of the players who played well last year. We still have unwanted high-earning failures on our books, the only takeover in sight appears to be by a complete moron and whilst our competitors are strengthening we are totally absent from the Transfer market! Which bit of:- We are f*cked this season do some of you not understand?

Players who've left:
Le Fondre? - fair enough, although he wasn't a first name on the team sheet
McAnuff? - fair enough, but he was getting on.
Gorkss? - lol
Leigertwood? - lol
Bridge? - I suppose he was pretty good in his massive 12 appearances.
Carrico? - lol
Taylor? - lol
Partridge? - lol
Ugwu? - lol
D'Ath? - lol

last season's best performers
Obita
McCleary
McCarthy
Pearce
Le Fondre (goals)
Williams
Guthrie (early on)
Gunter
I've probably missed one or two - they're virtually all still here.

We've got one of the best Academy's in the country with a production line of talent coming through to step up. We may find ourselves in some trouble this coming season, I'd say the odds are more likely for mid-table than anything else. We are far from oxf*rd.


Leigertwood was injured most of last season. His last game he ran the entire game and looked back to his best, which was, because Ian obviously you would have seen so many of his games - very, very good. So i think him going is a bit of a loss

ooo yay, he came back and played one good game. Good player in his time for us, no significant loss given the wealth of midfielders we still have.

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Ian Royal » 14 Jul 2014 22:50

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paddy20 Its better to be permanently pessimistic as occasionally you get cheered up!!


its scientifically proven that positive people are happier, healthier, and live longer, as well as getting more than their fair share of 'Luck'


Personally I feel positive that next week someone else will do a study claiming the opposite is true.

Only if the evidence supports it.

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by melonhead » 15 Jul 2014 14:41

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paddy20 Its better to be permanently pessimistic as occasionally you get cheered up!!


its scientifically proven that positive people are happier, healthier, and live longer, as well as getting more than their fair share of 'Luck'


I am not sure whether it is not scientifically proven that people who are happier, healthier, live longer, and have more than their fair share of luck tend to be more positive



nah


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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by FridaysGhost » 15 Jul 2014 20:24

What happens if you're positively pessimistic?

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by melonhead » 16 Jul 2014 09:41

your brain collapses under the confusing weight of it all

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by MmmMonsterMunch » 16 Jul 2014 19:06

I realise I'm in the minority but I cannot wait for this season. Everyone on here was sick to death with the performances of most of the 1st teamers & were crying out for youth.

Well here you go - you got what you wanted. Now man the fcuk up & get behind them. :wink:

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by CholseyRoyal » 16 Jul 2014 19:14

FridaysGhost What happens if you're positively pessimistic?



Is that better or worse than being negatively optimistic?

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by CholseyRoyal » 16 Jul 2014 19:16

MmmMonsterMunch I realise I'm in the minority but I cannot wait for this season. Everyone on here was sick to death with the performances of most of the 1st teamers & were crying out for youth.

Well here you go - you got what you wanted. Now man the fcuk up & get behind them. :wink:


It is what we have to do. This will be an up and down season no doubt but it will help to get the youngsters developing quickly.

After all the Busby Babes did pretty well!

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by paddy20 » 16 Jul 2014 20:04

MmmMonsterMunch I realise I'm in the minority but I cannot wait for this season. Everyone on here was sick to death with the performances of most of the 1st teamers & were crying out for youth.

Well here you go - you got what you wanted. Now man the fcuk up & get behind them. :wink:


I would say half a team of our youngsters playing would be equivalent to a struggling div. 2 side at best. Don't get carried away with the idea that these players are anything like ready or able. yet. Thats a complete phallacy and goes with over-optimistic emotions.

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Re: Nigel warns the fans

by Eaststandman » 16 Jul 2014 20:23

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MmmMonsterMunch I realise I'm in the minority but I cannot wait for this season. Everyone on here was sick to death with the performances of most of the 1st teamers & were crying out for youth.

Well here you go - you got what you wanted. Now man the fcuk up & get behind them. :wink:


I would say half a team of our youngsters playing would be equivalent to a struggling div. 2 side at best. Don't get carried away with the idea that these players are anything like ready or able. yet. Thats a complete phallacy and goes with over-optimistic emotions.


Is a 'complete phallacy' something of a cock-up? :wink:

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