New manager rumours and speculation

[Snowflake Royal]

True, ok he evidently tried. But he didn't pull it off, which is no surprise to me.

But to go from that to someoen like Selles?

There's literally not a worse appointment possible. Just get an unknown in, if you're gonna do that. Why someone who is known to be a total loser? Been off for a few days, not trawled through everything, but am seriously hoping I'm echoing the general sentiments here and am not some sort of outlier on this one.

Of course there are worse possible appointments.

There's a lot of shit thrown at the wall, attention seeking and panicking, so until we get something solid I'm not interested in who the latest twitter/bookie favourite is. Thoroughly bored of the feeding frenzy of speculation and rage.

Ok so just to clarify (genuine Q, I've not been keeping up with it beyond random headlines tbh), you'd be totally fine with the appointment of Selles, thnk it'd be a sound appointment? Or you're saying not to trust what we read yet, it's all just speculation and not to worry yet?

At no point have I said I'd be fine with his appointment, I've oxf*rd all clue who he is for a start.

I'm definitely saying the latter.

[Blackbag]

At least if it’s Selles and he’s in this coming week we can start rebuilding. Everyone has to start somewhere

[Elm Park Kid]

I'd rather that fans kick up a fuss about it now (even if it's only rumour) and deter the owners from hiring him, than waiting until he joins.

[windermereROYAL]

Is it too early to start a Selles out thread? after all it`s tradition isn`t it.

[traff]

I'd rather that fans kick up a fuss about it now (even if it's only rumour) and deter the owners from hiring him, than waiting until he joins.

Whatever makes you think they listen to the fans?
Reading FC is Dai's toy to play with and he will do whatever he wants with it.

[Orion1871]

At least we will all be able to refer to him as "Uselles" if/when he proves to be absolutely inept.

[Millsy]

Of course there are worse possible appointments.

There's a lot of shit thrown at the wall, attention seeking and panicking, so until we get something solid I'm not interested in who the latest twitter/bookie favourite is. Thoroughly bored of the feeding frenzy of speculation and rage.

Ok so just to clarify (genuine Q, I've not been keeping up with it beyond random headlines tbh), you'd be totally fine with the appointment of Selles, thnk it'd be a sound appointment? Or you're saying not to trust what we read yet, it's all just speculation and not to worry yet?

At no point have I said I'd be fine with his appointment, I've oxf*rd all clue who he is for a start.

I'm definitely saying the latter.

Thx good to know it's just speculation, I can relax a little. It's just worrying. And exactly the sort of thing I was always expecting from Dai.

[Sutekh]

Ever get the feeling the FL are going out of their way to screw the club over...

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/06/18/mis ... o-reading/

In addition other media reports suggest Karl Robinson has rejected the chance to take over.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

Ever get the feeling the FL are going out of their way to screw the club over...

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/06/18/mis ... o-reading/

In addition other media reports suggest Karl Robinson has rejected the chance to take over.

That site states that we've been handed a points deduction for next season - as far as I'm aware of that's factually incorrect as of this moment. The consequences of the late payments may be points lost - but nothing has happened yet or have I missed something?

[blueroyals]

Heading into the most important season in recent memory and we're after a manager who:

- Has no playing background
- Has managed a grand total of 18 games in his entire career
- Has never signed a player / been through a transfer window as a manager
- Has no experience managing in either the league we're in nor the league we're trying to get into
- Will be given a matter of days to prepare a first team squad barely big enough for a 5 aside game to return for pre-season

This is absolutely a Kia Joorabchian appointment isn't it?

[leon]

I see we're reaching whole new heights of bedwetting...

Explain.

[tidus_mi2]

Ever get the feeling the FL are going out of their way to screw the club over...

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/06/18/mis ... o-reading/

In addition other media reports suggest Karl Robinson has rejected the chance to take over.

That site states that we've been handed a points deduction for next season - as far as I'm aware of that's factually incorrect as of this moment. The consequences of the late payments may be points lost - but nothing has happened yet or have I missed something?

There is nothing to indicate a points deduction at this point.

[URZZZZ]

I'm surprised we haven't seen more backlash about Selles. Is it just the fans being blinded by a manager with PL background, the same as the owners?

This is clearly a massive mistake to go down the same route as our previous appointments. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising the guy himself, maybe he has the potential to be a solid manager. But we are in crisis and desperately need someone who can inspire confidence from the start. Not another spin of the roulette wheel.

Every choice is effectively a “spin of the roulette wheel”. Huge clamour for Wilder yet his last three seasons:

- Relegated Sheffield United with a measly 14 points in 28 games
- Collapsed and lost out on a top 6 spot with Middlesbrough from a promising situation
- Sacked by Boro this season after a continuation of that poor form before making very little impact at Watford

Not to discredit his achievements, to take a struggling Sheffield side from L1 to the cusp of Europe was fantastic, and obviously Watford are a basket case of a club. But it doesn’t hide the fact he’s struggled in recent years

And part of a wider point that there really is no magic formula when appointing a manager (except for Warnock of course ). Easy to forget our best two managers in the last 15 years have been the ones with very little prior management experience

[Pepe the Horseman]

Heading into the most important season in recent memory and we're after a manager who:

- Has no playing background
- Has managed a grand total of 18 games in his entire career
- Has never signed a player / been through a transfer window as a manager
- Has no experience managing in either the league we're in nor the league we're trying to get into
- Will be given a matter of days to prepare a first team squad barely big enough for a 5 aside game to return for pre-season

This is absolutely a Kia Joorabchian appointment isn't it?

He's also been a coach at some top clubs including Aris Thessaloniki, Shinnik Yaroslavl, Strømsgodset Toppfotball and Qarabag. What's not to like?!

[windermereROYAL]

Heading into the most important season in recent memory and we're after a manager who:

- Has no playing background
- Has managed a grand total of 18 games in his entire career
- Has never signed a player / been through a transfer window as a manager
- Has no experience managing in either the league we're in nor the league we're trying to get into
- Will be given a matter of days to prepare a first team squad barely big enough for a 5 aside game to return for pre-season

This is absolutely a Kia Joorabchian appointment isn't it?

No he isn`t.

[Hound]

There must be something about him for Southampton to gave appointed him assistant then manager

Admittedly I’ve no idea what

[morganb]

There must be something about him for Southampton to gave appointed him assistant then manager

Admittedly I’ve no idea what

With Southampton it was probably just right place, right time and cheap (plus they took Nathan Jones too which was also a bit surprising given the managers available)

Unless he was in the Megastore browsing for bargains when Pang walked in that doesn't really apply for us (cheap does though)

[Stranded]

People I think are mis-reading the situation here.

If Selles comes in this week (or soon) it will be as Head Coach not as Manager.

To me at least, it seems as though the set up we are looking for is Bowen & Carey have responsability for recruitment - working with Dublin or whoever his replacement may be - so they will bring in the players to suit the overall style the club want to move towards. A head coach will be appointed who can enhance that style using the tools supplied to him.

Now, someone will of course say, well what about Wilder. Wilder is a very good manager, who happened to become available - as a result, it was absolutely right to speak to him and see if a deal could be done - it seems that it was close but that there were too many compromises on both sides to make it a good fit, finances in terms of paying of staff, employing new staff etc (and transfer kitts) will all have been issues - all parties need to be happy.

So Selles fits what appears to be the model. Is he my #1 choice, no probably not, but he does have decent experience - including being Assistant at Copenhagen where they made the last 16 in the Europa Conference and won the Danish Title - so he has experience of winning things - he came into a Soton side on the way down.

Now he will come into the club at a very low ebb but the squad we have now will not be the squad he ends up working with - having looked at him, there is enough there to think he could be a good fit but people will, understandably, look at the time at Soton and go nah.

[elrey]

People I think are mis-reading the situation here.

If Selles comes in this week (or soon) it will be as Head Coach not as Manager.

To me at least, it seems as though the set up we are looking for is Bowen & Carey have responsability for recruitment - working with Dublin or whoever his replacement may be - so they will bring in the players to suit the overall style the club want to move towards. A head coach will be appointed who can enhance that style using the tools supplied to him.

Now, someone will of course say, well what about Wilder. Wilder is a very good manager, who happened to become available - as a result, it was absolutely right to speak to him and see if a deal could be done - it seems that it was close but that there were too many compromises on both sides to make it a good fit, finances in terms of paying of staff, employing new staff etc (and transfer kitts) will all have been issues - all parties need to be happy.

So Selles fits what appears to be the model. Is he my #1 choice, no probably not, but he does have decent experience - including being Assistant at Copenhagen where they made the last 16 in the Europa Conference and won the Danish Title - so he has experience of winning things - he came into a Soton side on the way down.

Now he will come into the club at a very low ebb but the squad we have now will not be the squad he ends up working with - having looked at him, there is enough there to think he could be a good fit but people will, understandably, look at the time at Soton and go nah.

Sometimes you throw the dice with an inexperienced manager and it works. Sometimes you appoint an experienced manager and it doesn't..... I don't know this guy, so I can't really criticize him, just hope if he's appointed that he's good.

[On Strings]

I don't know this guy, so I can't really criticize him, just hope if he's appointed that he's good.

You are Dai Yongge AICMFP.