by SCIAG » 14 Apr 2023 15:56
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by Stranded » 14 Apr 2023 16:13
by Mr Angry » 14 Apr 2023 16:14
by SCIAG » 14 Apr 2023 16:34
Stranded Unaware of what he was actually charged of, I still think that no club in England would sign him as there will, rightly or wrongly be a stigma attached to him.
He will be seen as in the same league as say Adam Johnson, and will simply be unemployable here. If he even resumes his career, I imagine it will be in another European league (or even further afield) - Saudi for example.
by PATRIQT » 14 Apr 2023 16:57
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by Pepe the Horseman » 14 Apr 2023 18:53
by Mid Sussex Royal » 14 Apr 2023 19:07
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Apr 2023 20:58
by MR.CYNICAL » 14 Apr 2023 23:10
by Orion1871 » 15 Apr 2023 05:16
by Stranded » 15 Apr 2023 08:49
SCIAGStranded Unaware of what he was actually charged of, I still think that no club in England would sign him as there will, rightly or wrongly be a stigma attached to him.
He will be seen as in the same league as say Adam Johnson, and will simply be unemployable here. If he even resumes his career, I imagine it will be in another European league (or even further afield) - Saudi for example.
He wasn’t charged with anything. He was just arrested.
The likes of Bissouma, Partey, and Evans are all currently playing in England. Bissouma is the most comparable, no public evidence and all charges dropped, playing for Spurs without a peep. Graham Stack had a rape charge hanging over him for most of his Reading career.
Don’t think this is as bad as Johnson, who went to prison, or Greenwood, who should have. Obviously Partey and Evans still playing despite their actions is a case of “two wrongs don’t make a right”, but it shows that there isn’t necessarily a public backlash.
by SouthDownsRoyal » 15 Apr 2023 20:27
by Elm Park Kid » 16 Apr 2023 00:01
by Sebastian the Red » 17 Apr 2023 10:45
by leon » 17 Apr 2023 11:48
Sebastian the Red The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
by Snowflake Royal » 17 Apr 2023 12:18
Sebastian the Red The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
by Sebastian the Red » 17 Apr 2023 13:11
Snowflake RoyalSebastian the Red The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
Genuine question, is it 51% of a crime having been commited or 51% of their being a realistic chance of proving a crime has been commited and securing a conviction, because those feel like similar but importantly different things.
by Snowflake Royal » 17 Apr 2023 15:38
Sebastian the RedSnowflake RoyalSebastian the Red The CPS have specifically stated that the evidence they have managed to accrue over the last two years does not meet their threshold.
Their threshold is "balance of probabilities", or "is it more likely than not". They do not have to get to the criminal standard for a charging decision.
So in other words, the CPS and police couldn't even get to a 50% chance of a crime being committed.
Which is incredibly rare in a criminal investigation.
Morons might hold the fact that he was investigated against him. Anyone with a mind capable of critical thought would have him back in a heartbeat if he's still up to standard.
Genuine question, is it 51% of a crime having been commited or 51% of their being a realistic chance of proving a crime has been commited and securing a conviction, because those feel like similar but importantly different things.
In reality they’re the same thing. They can only say that there is a 51% chance of a crime having been committed if they have the evidence to back it up. And if they have that evidence then it’s a 51% chance of proving it.
It’s a subjective test in reality, prosecutors ask themselves “with the evidence we have is it more likely than not that we can prove this”. Some think they have hunches that the crime was definitely committed or whatever but if they don’t have evidence that hunch is based on absolutely nothing.
They err on the side of caution, especially in sex cases, as victims rights groups get a bit worked up.
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