Speculation - Zarate

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by papereyes » 20 Apr 2008 23:30

:lol:

£10 million.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by The whole year inn » 20 Apr 2008 23:32

:lol:

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Doyler » 21 Apr 2008 00:59

What I don't get is, if this lad is worth £10m then why is he out on loan?

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by Wycombe Royal » 21 Apr 2008 08:58

Doyler What I don't get is, if this lad is worth £10m then why is he out on loan?

Because he plays for a club in Qatar and obviously didn't want to turn down the chance to play in the Premiership. He has admitted he made a mistake moving to Qatar in the first place.

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by Fezza » 21 Apr 2008 09:29

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Doyler What I don't get is, if this lad is worth £10m then why is he out on loan?

Because he plays for a club in Qatar and obviously didn't want to turn down the chance to play in the Premiership. He has admitted he made a mistake moving to Qatar in the first place.


His club in Qatar have said they won't let him go for less than £19m! Slightly out of our price range and I'm not certain Championship football is a step up from playing in Qatar! Also WCBAP (not like the Arabs to skimp on that)!


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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by chilipepper91 » 21 Apr 2008 10:50

SymonsO I have heard 10-12 million banded about, maybe just maybe we would actually spend some £ if we stay up.

It is a strange amount of money for a club from Qatar to ask. If They go down and we dont sign him, one of the other clubs in the bottom third will!


£12 million for him is ridiculous, even by today's inflated standards. Much rather we bought 3 or 4 for up to that price in total, seeing as £10 million is probably where the funds stretch if we stay up this summer...

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by Chuckle Brother » 21 Apr 2008 11:41

Maybe the daftest post on here since the Patrice Evra one.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Hoop Blah » 21 Apr 2008 12:06

I'd heard or read that West Ham were after him as well.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Tinrib » 21 Apr 2008 12:22

I think I read somewhere that he actually cost the Qatar club something like £10m, and the offer was so £££ good that it was a no brainer for him, although he didn't really want to go there.

Fair play to Brum for picking him up tho', its that type of player who could be the difference between staying up or going down.

And well out of our league, by a country mile.


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by papereyes » 21 Apr 2008 22:42

Tinrib I think I read somewhere that he actually cost the Qatar club something like £10m, and the offer was so £££ good that it was a no brainer for him, although he didn't really want to go there.

Fair play to Brum for picking him up tho', its that type of player who could be the difference between staying up or going down.

And well out of our league, by a country mile.


I don't see why he was out of league before Birmingham signed him. Young player, unhappy and undervalued at his current club. Isn't this perhaps how we can circumvent our financial short-handedness?

What's he going to cost Birmingham? 5-6 months of wages. What's he given them? 4 goals in 11 games and some pace. Fair enough, at 20 he'll have his bad games but still, he's got something.

It's the same as Cahill. Last January, he was unhappy at Villa and would not ever have cost £5 million. Get the lad in on loan and see if he is good enough and get him to want to stay.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Tinrib » 21 Apr 2008 23:46

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Tinrib I think I read somewhere that he actually cost the Qatar club something like £10m, and the offer was so £££ good that it was a no brainer for him, although he didn't really want to go there.

Fair play to Brum for picking him up tho', its that type of player who could be the difference between staying up or going down.

And well out of our league, by a country mile.


I don't see why he was out of league before Birmingham signed him. Young player, unhappy and undervalued at his current club. Isn't this perhaps how we can circumvent our financial short-handedness?

What's he going to cost Birmingham? 5-6 months of wages. What's he given them? 4 goals in 11 games and some pace. Fair enough, at 20 he'll have his bad games but still, he's got something.

It's the same as Cahill. Last January, he was unhappy at Villa and would not ever have cost £5 million. Get the lad in on loan and see if he is good enough and get him to want to stay.


He wasn't out of our league pre Brum. But he is now(in answer to the originating posters comment.)

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by brendywendy » 23 Apr 2008 10:13

wasnt he valued at 12 million to brum, which is why they only loaned him

therefore was and still is out of our league

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by loyalroyal4life » 23 Apr 2008 11:14

no chance


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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Dirk Gently » 23 Apr 2008 11:19

Why would he possibly come to us when just about every other club in the PL would want him?

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Tinrib » 23 Apr 2008 13:28

brendywendy wasnt he valued at 12 million to brum, which is why they only loaned him

therefore was and still is out of our league



I was refering to a possible loan pre Brum.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by papereyes » 25 Apr 2008 11:35

Dirk Gently Why would he possibly come to us when just about every other club in the PL would want him?


Equally, why did he only go to Birmingham in January?

Isn't this what our scouting team should be looking for - relatively undervalued players, players who are unhappy at clubs ...

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by ElmParker » 25 Apr 2008 11:50

Good question. He was apparently quite well known in Argentina as a top prospect.

I wonder if it represents a general Elano-like failure of club managers, rather than a piece of top ferreting by Birmingham's scouts.

His performance alone against us suggested he had awesome potential and I can't believe other scouts didn't know about him.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by Vision » 25 Apr 2008 12:01

ElmParker Good question. He was apparently quite well known in Argentina as a top prospect.

I wonder if it represents a general Elano-like failure of club managers, rather than a piece of top ferreting by Birmingham's scouts.

His performance alone against us suggested he had awesome potential and I can't believe other scouts didn't know about him.


I wonder though, even if clubs were aware of him whether most felt a short term loan wouldn't really give him sufficient time to settle into a new country and adapt to the pace and physicality of the Premiership.

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Re: Speculation - Zarate

by ElmParker » 25 Apr 2008 12:22

Fair comment. I've never quite understood why ability to settle seems completely unrelated to actual ability. Why a year for Drogba, three months for Henry and no time for Zarate?

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by papereyes » 25 Apr 2008 15:04

ElmParker Fair comment. I've never quite understood why ability to settle seems completely unrelated to actual ability. Why a year for Drogba, three months for Henry and no time for Zarate?


I always thought it was obvious that it would be.

Its simply down to character and personality, oh, and also how a club treats him and his family.

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