Rumour/Gossip - Joe Garner

[Isaac Hunt]

Just had an email from a friend of mine who supports Carlisle United, he said that Reading are interested in their young forward Joe Garner.

Had a quick hunt around but only found this http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/ ... 72,00.html

[Wycombe Royal]

Forest apparently want him but he isrecovering from a knee injury at the moment.

[BR2]

There were some good reports about him last season and Forest sometimes know a good striker when they see one (Tyson) but don't understand when a player is past it (Cole).
I hope these are not famous last words come 3 weeks Saturday although I suppose if Andy Cole were likely to score a goal for them it would be in the early weeks before old age catches up with him in the winter months.

[Isaac Hunt]

My mate's report on him was...

"he is very nippy, very skillful if a little shot shy. probably too good for League One. Scored 14 goals in 30 games last year, but is injured until Xmas apparently."

Shot Shy and injured until Xmas.....expect our first signing soon!

[Agent Balti]

I 'had' him in my Fantasy Football team when he was fit...he scored a decent amount of goals for Carlisle and is still very young. He's the type of player I'd like to see us get, for sure.

[Streets]

My mate's report on him was...

"he is very nippy, very skillful if a little shot shy. probably too good for League One. Scored 14 goals in 30 games last year, but is injured until Xmas apparently."

Shot Shy and injured until Xmas.....expect our first signing soon!

Or not. Like anyone will sign him until he's recovered from a serious injury like that.

Another shit rumour.

[Isaac Hunt]

My mate's report on him was...

"he is very nippy, very skillful if a little shot shy. probably too good for League One. Scored 14 goals in 30 games last year, but is injured until Xmas apparently."

Shot Shy and injured until Xmas.....expect our first signing soon!

Or not. Like anyone will sign him until he's recovered from a serious injury like that.

Another shit rumour.

[cmonurz]

Well if he is injured until Xmas then the January window is, imho, a more likely time for him to leave Carlisle.

[Coppell's Right Footed 11]

Probably spend the money we got for Kitson on this guy then.. £200,000 - leave the rest for building another windmill

[Streets]

My mate's report on him was...

"he is very nippy, very skillful if a little shot shy. probably too good for League One. Scored 14 goals in 30 games last year, but is injured until Xmas apparently."

Shot Shy and injured until Xmas.....expect our first signing soon!

Or not. Like anyone will sign him until he's recovered from a serious injury like that.

Another shit rumour.

Hardly worth bringing up then was it.

[Wycombe Royal]

From Carlisle official site:

Following continued speculation, Carlisle United is today issuing a statement explaining that they would have no alternative but to sell Joe Garner once they have been offered £1.14 million for him.

Under the terms of the contract that he and his agent insisted on before Joe signed for the Blues from Blackburn Rovers in August last year, the player would be able to leave Brunton Park when another club offers £1million on top of the £140,000 record fee Carlisle paid for him.

Those conditions were reluctantly accepted by Carlisle United because, at that time, Joe was on the brink of signing for SPL outfit Dundee United when he changed his mind and instead signed for the Blues, but only on those terms on top of the ones insisted on by Blackburn.

Joe's contract also states that while Carlisle will receive (from the total transfer fee) the £140,000 they paid for him, half of the remaining £1 million will go to Blackburn under a sell-on arrangement. Blackburn will also have a 50% cut of any future sell-on from any purchasing club.

After allowing for Blackburn's £500,000, that would leave £640,000 for Carlisle, from which a further 5% of the £1 million would go to the player or his representatives under the terms of the contract.

That means that from a £1.14 million bid which triggers Joe's release, Carlisle will receive £590,000 for a player they signed for £140,000 when aged just 19, and who went on to score 14 goals in 34 appearances for the Blues last season before being injured at Crewe in February.

The club would like to point out that the same financial conditions would have applied to the £1 million bid it was able to turn down from Bristol City for Joe in the January transfer window last season.

Carlisle United's chief executive David Allen, who is one of the club's four new owners, said: "We have always wanted to keep Joe. He is extremely popular with our fans and everyone at the club. Of course, he is also a great young player with tremendous potential who is working extremely hard to recover from a very serious injury, which is likely to sideline him for several more months. But there is nothing we can do to stop Nottingham Forest, or any other club for that matter, speaking to Joe once they have reached the £1.14 million trigger. Our relationships with Forest and with Joe remain good but I would like to stress that it was not Carlisle United who informed Forest of the £1.14 million trigger. As I say, we have always wanted to keep Joe as a Carlisle United player and we are mindful that he still has two years to run on his contract with us."

Meanwhile, Carlisle United are actively continuing their quest to make further signings to enhance their squad before the start of the next season.

[brendywendy]

Probably spend the money we got for Kitson on this guy then.. £200,000 - leave the rest for building another windmill

we didnt build the 1st one did we?

[Fat Leather Jacket]

Too much of a Maverick.

[Hoop Blah]

From Carlisle official site:

Joe's contract also states that while Carlisle will receive (from the total transfer fee) the £140,000 they paid for him, half of the remaining £1 million will go to Blackburn under a sell-on arrangement. Blackburn will also have a 50% cut of any future sell-on from any purchasing club.

That's a hell of a clause that Blackburn got in there.

[Streets]

From Carlisle official site:

Joe's contract also states that while Carlisle will receive (from the total transfer fee) the £140,000 they paid for him, half of the remaining £1 million will go to Blackburn under a sell-on arrangement. Blackburn will also have a 50% cut of any future sell-on from any purchasing club.

That's a hell of a clause that Blackburn got in there.

I didn't think clubs could create such a clause?

A sell on yes, but how can they take a % of all future transfers?

[Ian Royal]

That's a hell of a clause that Blackburn got in there.

I didn't think clubs could create such a clause?

A sell on yes, but how can they take a % of all future transfers?

Presumably they had a clause in the original transfer that Carlisle couldn't agree to a transfer with another club without putting in a sell on clause where Blackburn are the recipients of a percentage of any fee from a further transfer. I would doubt they would get a fee from a transfer after that though.

[Platypuss]

From Carlisle official site:

Joe's contract also states that while Carlisle will receive (from the total transfer fee) the £140,000 they paid for him, half of the remaining £1 million will go to Blackburn under a sell-on arrangement. Blackburn will also have a 50% cut of any future sell-on from any purchasing club.

I didn't think clubs could create such a clause?

A sell on yes, but how can they take a % of all future transfers?

Easy - Blackburn get a 50% cut of any sell-on fee Carlisle get.

If Carlisle sell him to us for £1.14M and negotiate a 50% sell-on with us, then if we sell him for £5M, then Carlisle get 25% of £3.86M, so do Blackburn and we get 50%.

[Arch]

More likely what's meant is that Blackburn get 50% of any future sell-on fee. We negotiate, say, a 20% sell-on fee with Carlisle and when that kicks in they split it with Blackburn.

[rg6royal]

Snap him up!

[Platypuss]

More likely what's meant is that Blackburn get 50% of any future sell-on fee. We negotiate, say, a 20% sell-on fee with Carlisle and when that kicks in they split it with Blackburn.

Yeah, that too.