Stadium Expansion

[Volvicanus]

Stamford Bridge is a stadium which is aesthetically unpleasing to the eye. There's no symmetry about it. I personally don't like it. And I doubt my visit there on Boxing Day will alter that view.

Stamford Bridge is one of the better stadiums IMO
Just a bit 'different' and the east stand is really impressive considering its age and history and how well it still fits in

shame the atmosphere is sh1t really

Stamford Bridge is a shithole - I agree. I love where it is, but wheelchair seating is at pitch level and sucks sucks sucks. Needs some serious updating.

[Hoop Blah]

Theres no maximum limit.

No but's he 3,000 or 10% of the capacity is the minimum requirement, whatever is least.

They currently get 10% of capacaity and they will be increased to 3,000. So yes away fans will get more seats.

Unless they get dispensation to maintain an away section below the stated minimum.

That would mean they could keep the bottom SE corner for away fans as it is, and have home fans completey surrounding them.

I agree its more likely that they'll have to open up the hole of the bottom of the South stand for away fans though.

The plans look pretty good to me and quite exiting to think we could end up with a ground capable of holding tournament group games etc. I just jope the team can continue to be successful and that the demand for watching them is maintained.

[JC]

I agree its more likely that they'll have to open up the hole of the bottom of the South stand for away fans though.

Why would they need to? With the South stand bigger they would just need to extend the away section upwards to meet the rules

[Huntley & Palmer]

The only problem with Stamford Bridge is the view in the bottom tier of the East Stand (one where the dug outs are) if you are further back than Row S. I like Stamford Bridge, considering it's capacity it is very compact and keeps the fans close to the pitch.

[Ian Royal]

I agree its more likely that they'll have to open up the hole of the bottom of the South stand for away fans though.

Why would they need to? With the South stand bigger they would just need to extend the away section upwards to meet the rules

thats exactly what I thought.

Every thing I'd heard prior to these plans had suggested that the extensions would leave the stands still as 1 tier. Has something changed or am I just plain wrong?

[Deadlock]

What I don't understand, like Premiereship_bound, is if there are no executive boxes and split levels between the stands, how can the club build hospitality areas with amazing views of the pitch?

Behind the new wheelchair areas at a slightly higher level?

[JC]

I agree its more likely that they'll have to open up the hole of the bottom of the South stand for away fans though.

Why would they need to? With the South stand bigger they would just need to extend the away section upwards to meet the rules

thats exactly what I thought.

Every thing I'd heard prior to these plans had suggested that the extensions would leave the stands still as 1 tier. Has something changed or am I just plain wrong?

I am not sure what you are saying here. The new plans are for one tier with 3 of the stands excluding the West being extended upwards by raising the roof. There will be an upper concourse, but it will still be only one tier

[Hoop Blah]

I agree its more likely that they'll have to open up the hole of the bottom of the South stand for away fans though.

Why would they need to? With the South stand bigger they would just need to extend the away section upwards to meet the rules

True, they might do it that way instead, especially as somebody correctly pointed out that it'll be the continuation of the same tier. I was thinking they'd do it that way round because of the concourse segregation and maybe the numbers involed. I suppose the seating segregation is the harder to enforce though so just going upwards with the fencing makes more sense.

[Ian Royal]

I agree its more likely that they'll have to open up the hole of the bottom of the South stand for away fans though.

Why would they need to? With the South stand bigger they would just need to extend the away section upwards to meet the rules

thats exactly what I thought.

Every thing I'd heard prior to these plans had suggested that the extensions would leave the stands still as 1 tier. Has something changed or am I just plain wrong?

I am not sure what you are saying here. The new plans are for one tier with 3 of the stands excluding the West being extended upwards by raising the roof. There will be an upper concourse, but it will still be only one tier

exactly, so you couldn't divide the stand horizontally and have away fans below home fans surely. It would stay the same as it is now. away in the left hand side as you look at the seating from the north, and home in the right.

[MartinRdg]

I would like to know if the front edge of the roof will be higher than it is at the moment. It looks like it will be.

I rarely get wet in Row R but if the roof is raised I suspect that given the right wind direction the rain will reach me more often. I can't say I'd be too chuffed about that.

Ah that's it then, forget the whole stadium expansion idea, somebody might get a bit wet.

In the East Stand it's no more than the first dozen rows that get wet when it rains. I think its a legitimate question to ask if this will be fixed under the new plans or how far back you need to move to keep dry.

IIRC when the Mad Stad was first built, they said that the roof was the size and shape it was in order to allow sufficient light into the bowl so that the grass would grow properly. Consequently, I couldn't see the situation changing too much with a higher roof (except of course that if the rain was sweeping in that it would sweep in further).

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

i no it is not being knock down but the stand is MOVING back some way so do you think it will go under the stand or end up on the HILL

cost of keeping the jazz cafe exactly where it is £0.00p

cost of moving it to a different part of an enlarged stand for no point at all - £200,000+ ?

what do you think is more likely?

[TW15Royal]

i no it is not being knock down but the stand is MOVING back some way so do you think it will go under the stand or end up on the HILL

cost of keeping the jazz cafe exactly where it is £0.00p

cost of moving it to a different part of an enlarged stand for no point at all - £200,000+ ?

what do you think is more likely?

I think it all depends on whether they plan to move the plant off the roof of the jazz cafe, if they do it will be more than £200k, but with the look of the proposed outline plans it look's like the new tier extension will just pass over the cafe and all its plant.

[Hyundai Coupe]

Stamford Bridge is a stadium which is aesthetically unpleasing to the eye. There's no symmetry about it. I personally don't like it. And I doubt my visit there on Boxing Day will alter that view.

Stamford Bridge is one of the better stadiums IMO
Just a bit 'different' and the east stand is really impressive considering its age and history and how well it still fits in

shame the atmosphere is sh1t really

Chelsea want to make the Bridge bigger, but the infrastructure around the ground isn't good enough. Finding another site for a new ground is proving difficult. In reality though SB is a good ground with character.

[BenReadingFC]

When I get a chance I'll ask the owner of the Jazz Club (that I know personally) what the plans are for the future.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

i no it is not being knock down but the stand is MOVING back some way so do you think it will go under the stand or end up on the HILL

cost of keeping the jazz cafe exactly where it is £0.00p

cost of moving it to a different part of an enlarged stand for no point at all - £200,000+ ?

what do you think is more likely?

I think it all depends on whether they plan to move the plant off the roof of the jazz cafe, if they do it will be more than £200k, but with the look of the proposed outline plans it look's like the new tier extension will just pass over the cafe and all its plant.

£200K was a figure I plucked out of the air merely to hammer home the point that rebuilding it from scratch in the extension would be expensive and for no apparent gain.

Maybe they do plan to also build a new bar in the extension, but it'd seem a waste of money. While it would be beneficial to have an additional bar on match days, there's not likely to be enough trade to support two bars at the stadium for the other 340 days of the year.

[The 17 Bus]

I think you will find there will be additional space for the Megastore, and further use of the large space under the stands, corporate bookings at The Stadium are very high, and more could be takne if there was space.

[Platypuss]

i no it is not being knock down but the stand is MOVING back some way so do you think it will go under the stand or end up on the HILL

cost of keeping the jazz cafe exactly where it is £0.00p

cost of moving it to a different part of an enlarged stand for no point at all - £200,000+ ?

what do you think is more likely?

I think it all depends on whether they plan to move the plant off the roof of the jazz cafe, if they do it will be more than £200k, but with the look of the proposed outline plans it look's like the new tier extension will just pass over the cafe and all its plant.

We know there will be a higher level concourse under the raised east stand, so doesn't that make the continued presence of the cafe rather tricky?

There's also the fact that the outer wall of the Madstad will be moving further out, so even if it stayed some work will have to be done on the JC to avoid the windows facing out into a solid wall.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

i no it is not being knock down but the stand is MOVING back some way so do you think it will go under the stand or end up on the HILL

cost of keeping the jazz cafe exactly where it is £0.00p

cost of moving it to a different part of an enlarged stand for no point at all - £200,000+ ?

what do you think is more likely?

I think it all depends on whether they plan to move the plant off the roof of the jazz cafe, if they do it will be more than £200k, but with the look of the proposed outline plans it look's like the new tier extension will just pass over the cafe and all its plant.

We know there will be a higher level concourse under the raised east stand, so doesn't that make the continued presence of the cafe rather tricky?

There's also the fact that the outer wall of the Madstad will be moving further out, so even if it stayed some work will have to be done on the JC to avoid the windows facing out into a solid wall.

the concourse would have its floor, at the lowest, at around the level of the (current) top of the east stand.

It depends a lot on what they intend to do with the area below the new concourse - i.e. is it going to be filled with office space etc or is it going to be open, with the extension effectively on stilts.

Just because there's a new upper section doesn't mean they have to make the outer wall of the new bit go down to the floor.

The stand on the right at PSV Eindhoven was a similar extension, and you can see the top tier is on stilts.

[wheels7]

I've asked the club a list of 20+ questions on the disabled provision - here they are (hopefully i'll get a reply when i go on Monday!).

RFC Expansion proposals

1. Have you consulted an Access Consultant or discussed the proposals with local or national disability groups?

2. Have you produced an Access Statement/Summary for the application?

3. What design criteria/legislation has been used/followed in planning the expansion eg Building Regulations in place today or when original outline planning permission was made?

4. Does the application/proposal comply with the Football Stadia Improvement Fund/Football Licensing Authority publication “Accessible Stadiaâ€

[Reading Abbey]

Would it be to much of a challenge for Shades to work his magic and give us an idea of what the North or South Stand will look like in a half and half image linking to the East Stand from within the stadium?
Is it mission impossible, are his limits being discovered?