Safety Points (Again - But New Slant)!

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by oldelmparky » 15 Jan 2007 11:28

oldelmparky ... but hey.

Since the half way point the Magic Number has fallen from 50 to 34 in just four games. So at that rate we'll be safe after Easter. :)


On the other hand...
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Talking Magic Numbers, it's only

55

for a place in Europe.

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by 79Royal » 15 Jan 2007 11:47

oldelmparky
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BasketCase Anyone else note that of the bottom 9 teams we have to play

6 at the Mad stad (Watford, SheffU, Wigan, Fulham, Villa and Newky),
2 away (Boro and Charlton) and
we've done the the double over the 'ammers.


With Sheff U, Wigan, City, Villa and Boro in the next 5

I can see us getting 12 pts from these games. so we would be safe by end of Feb.

Nice. :D


No.
We can only be safe after six more games (ie after 3rd March).
Winning our next six, which includes the one at the Emirates.
Wonderful birthday presi for me (12th March). :D


Hey, me too!

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by No Hoops » 15 Jan 2007 11:59

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No Hoops
BasketCase Anyone else note that of the bottom 9 teams we have to play

6 at the Mad stad (Watford, SheffU, Wigan, Fulham, Villa and Newky),
2 away (Boro and Charlton) and
we've done the the double over the 'ammers.


With Sheff U, Wigan, City, Villa and Boro in the next 5

I can see us getting 12 pts from these games. so we would be safe by end of Feb.

Nice. :D


No.
We can only be safe after six more games (ie after 3rd March).
Winning our next six, which includes the one at the Emirates.
Wonderful birthday presi for me (12th March). :D


Hey, me too!


Well, safe in my mind. 26th March me. (40 :cry: )
15th My son (1 :D )

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by oldelmparky » 15 Jan 2007 12:52

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oldelmparky We can only be safe after six more games (ie after 3rd March).
Winning our next six, which includes the one at the Emirates.
Wonderful birthday presi for me (12th March). :D


Hey, me too!


You must be a great guy then. :wink:

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by oldelmparky » 15 Jan 2007 12:54

No Hoops 15th My son (1 :D )

He must be a pretty good little chap too. :D


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by JC » 21 Jan 2007 16:23

Another decent weekend sees it down to 29

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by RoyalChicagoFC » 21 Jan 2007 16:43

JC Another decent weekend sees it down to 29

Yep, huge, and with 14 left to play.

Heck, Watford's magic number for safety is 56 (as pegged to Wigan, who've played 23, in 17th place) --which sounds good enough until one considers that Watford only have 16 games remaining (from which they could claim a maximum of 48 points)...

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by Polyethylene » 21 Jan 2007 18:43

The first milestone is only four away, when Watford will not be able to overtake MU. Currently the available spread of points is:



The light yellow is Reading's spread, red is relegation safety, green is cut-off for still being able to win the league


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by RoyalChicagoFC » 01 Feb 2007 14:48

With the events of 30/31 January, the green line has moved above the red, and there it shall remain for the duration. In plain language, United are now irrevocably safe, as none of Watford, Charlton and West Ham could reel them in.

Of more local significance, and for those who cannot resist a peek, the number now stands at 23 with 13 games to go...

:roll: :lol:

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by weybridgewanderer » 01 Feb 2007 15:41

on current form the bottom 4 will be lucky to reach 35 points

with us already on 37 some may argue we are already safe
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by Coppelled Streets » 01 Feb 2007 15:52

Harps stay sharp Coppell's target for the end of 2006 was to reach 30 points, so he fell short by 3 points. :lol:

I reckon 40 points would be enough this season, but fear not, we will beat that total for sure.


Coppell's only target is the next game. I don't recall him ever mentioning any points targets. That's just not Stevie Coppell.

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by Greenwich Royal » 01 Feb 2007 16:36

Something really drastic will have to happen for us not to stay up:

SEASON FORM
1 Manchester United 91.2
2 Chelsea 81.3
3 Liverpool 73.7
4 Arsenal 70.2
5 Bolton Wanderers 61.8
6 Portsmouth 57.5

7 Reading 55.2
8 Everton 54.6
9 Tottenham Hotspur 51.2
10 Newcastle United 49.9
11 Manchester City 46.8
12 Middlesbrough 46.6
13 Blackburn Rovers 46.6
14 Aston Villa 43.3
15 Fulham 43.3
16 Sheffield United 40.0
17 Wigan Athletic 34.6

18 West Ham United 30.4
19 Charlton Athletic 30.4
20 Watford 23.4


RECENT FORM
1 Manchester United 86.0
2 Liverpool 82.8
3 Chelsea 77.4
4 Arsenal 77.2
5 Bolton Wanderers 63.1
6 Newcastle United 55.1

7 Reading 53.9
8 Portsmouth 53.6
9 Everton 53.2
10 Middlesbrough 53.1
11 Tottenham Hotspur 51.2
12 Blackburn Rovers 50.5
13 Manchester City 46.8
14 Fulham 43.3
15 Sheffield United 42.6
16 Aston Villa 35.5
17 Charlton Athletic 33.0

18 West Ham United 29.1
19 Watford 22.0
20 Wigan Athletic 22.0


Not that I'm getting excited just yet - learnt that leasson in May '95 :? :roll:


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by Mr Angry » 01 Feb 2007 19:57

The second table - over what period of games is it taken as "recent"?

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by From Despair To Where? » 01 Feb 2007 20:12

Mr Angry The second table - over what period of games is it taken as "recent"?


No more than 8 games, as Wigan are already on 22 points.

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by Mr Angry » 01 Feb 2007 20:20

From Despair To Where?
Mr Angry The second table - over what period of games is it taken as "recent"?


No more than 8 games, as Wigan are already on 22 points.


Well spotted! So effectively this table reckons that Wigan aren't going to get another point all season?

:?

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by Platypuss » 01 Feb 2007 20:23

Mr Angry
From Despair To Where?
Mr Angry The second table - over what period of games is it taken as "recent"?


No more than 8 games, as Wigan are already on 22 points.


Well spotted! So effectively this table reckons that Wigan aren't going to get another point all season?

:?


Well how far back do you want to take "current" form?

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by Ian Royal » 01 Feb 2007 20:57

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by Greenwich Royal » 02 Feb 2007 12:04

Mr Angry The second table - over what period of games is it taken as "recent"?


taken from http://www.football365.com and although it doesn't say it looks like the last 8 games...

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by Mr Angry » 02 Feb 2007 12:25

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Mr Angry The second table - over what period of games is it taken as "recent"?


No more than 8 games, as Wigan are already on 22 points.


Well spotted! So effectively this table reckons that Wigan aren't going to get another point all season?

:?


Well how far back do you want to take "current" form?


I just wondered as there was no hint as to the number of games on the chart; if it had been 2 or 3 it would have been to few, any more than 8 too many. 5 would show the trend, but its still a pretty rough and ready comparison as all it is is statistical in concept and doesn't take into account who is left to be played by each club, with a weigting based on whether its home or away, and that teams relative position to you currently.

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