Changes to end poor run !

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by Thomas L'Heureux » 19 Mar 2007 14:30

Hahnemann's Hairdresser I for one would love to see Bryan get a run out :lol:

For the record this is our first season in the Premiership, please remember this before saying our season could be over if we don't perform against Uefa cup quarter finalists Spurs. I dread to think of the reaction of some on here if we do succum to a difficult second season.

Maybe Oster and Gunnarsson should come in, but they have always been backup players and that's how it's going to stay. Our whole season has been full of good and bad patches and its essentially been the same plaers getting us out of the bad and keeping us in the good, so to drop any of them now makes no sense at all. The players are good enough, they have proved that over the last two seasons, dropping anyone now and claiming bad form would be damaging to the players moral and completely baffling given that we are 8th which is 10 places higher than anyone could have expected at the begining of the season.


To be fair mate, I've not said that our season will fall apart if we don't change things. I know we're having a truly wonderful season, and nothing will change that.

All I've said is that as substitutes and bit-part players, Gunnarsson and Oster have been absolutely excellent recently, and have waited patiently so far this season. I think that both Hunt and Harper have let their performances drop very slightly over the last few weeks, for whatever reason, and as a result I'd like to see the above named players come in to give them a go. European qualification is not the be all and end all, so there will not be too many problems with trying different personnel.

I am not suggesting that our team will fail without Oster and Gunnarsson in the starting line-up, nor am I suggesting that both Hunt and Harper are useless. I pay good money for my season ticket, and I feel I am able to voice my opinion. I've not done it in an angry way, and I've backed up my views with reasons, so get down off your high horse. ;)

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by Hahnemann's Hairdresser » 19 Mar 2007 15:40

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Hahnemann's Hairdresser I for one would love to see Bryan get a run out :lol:

For the record this is our first season in the Premiership, please remember this before saying our season could be over if we don't perform against Uefa cup quarter finalists Spurs. I dread to think of the reaction of some on here if we do succum to a difficult second season.

Maybe Oster and Gunnarsson should come in, but they have always been backup players and that's how it's going to stay. Our whole season has been full of good and bad patches and its essentially been the same plaers getting us out of the bad and keeping us in the good, so to drop any of them now makes no sense at all. The players are good enough, they have proved that over the last two seasons, dropping anyone now and claiming bad form would be damaging to the players moral and completely baffling given that we are 8th which is 10 places higher than anyone could have expected at the begining of the season.


To be fair mate, I've not said that our season will fall apart if we don't change things. I know we're having a truly wonderful season, and nothing will change that.

All I've said is that as substitutes and bit-part players, Gunnarsson and Oster have been absolutely excellent recently, and have waited patiently so far this season. I think that both Hunt and Harper have let their performances drop very slightly over the last few weeks, for whatever reason, and as a result I'd like to see the above named players come in to give them a go. European qualification is not the be all and end all, so there will not be too many problems with trying different personnel.

I am not suggesting that our team will fail without Oster and Gunnarsson in the starting line-up, nor am I suggesting that both Hunt and Harper are useless. I pay good money for my season ticket, and I feel I am able to voice my opinion. I've not done it in an angry way, and I've backed up my views with reasons, so get down off your high horse. ;)


Should have quoted first time round but I wasn't replying to you! Your point is reasonable enough, maybe other players could be given their chance to refresh the team, personally I don't agree for the reasons I gave before, but thats life, people will disagree. Like you say, you didn't get all melodramatic and say that our season was at stake like sonkoissuperman which was why I was on the high horse originally. A reality check is definatly a must at the end of this season, especially as a difficult second season has been a trend for promoted clubs recently.

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by Thomas L'Heureux » 19 Mar 2007 15:43

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Hahnemann's Hairdresser I for one would love to see Bryan get a run out :lol:

For the record this is our first season in the Premiership, please remember this before saying our season could be over if we don't perform against Uefa cup quarter finalists Spurs. I dread to think of the reaction of some on here if we do succum to a difficult second season.

Maybe Oster and Gunnarsson should come in, but they have always been backup players and that's how it's going to stay. Our whole season has been full of good and bad patches and its essentially been the same plaers getting us out of the bad and keeping us in the good, so to drop any of them now makes no sense at all. The players are good enough, they have proved that over the last two seasons, dropping anyone now and claiming bad form would be damaging to the players moral and completely baffling given that we are 8th which is 10 places higher than anyone could have expected at the begining of the season.


To be fair mate, I've not said that our season will fall apart if we don't change things. I know we're having a truly wonderful season, and nothing will change that.

All I've said is that as substitutes and bit-part players, Gunnarsson and Oster have been absolutely excellent recently, and have waited patiently so far this season. I think that both Hunt and Harper have let their performances drop very slightly over the last few weeks, for whatever reason, and as a result I'd like to see the above named players come in to give them a go. European qualification is not the be all and end all, so there will not be too many problems with trying different personnel.

I am not suggesting that our team will fail without Oster and Gunnarsson in the starting line-up, nor am I suggesting that both Hunt and Harper are useless. I pay good money for my season ticket, and I feel I am able to voice my opinion. I've not done it in an angry way, and I've backed up my views with reasons, so get down off your high horse. ;)


Should have quoted first time round but I wasn't replying to you! Your point is reasonable enough, maybe other players could be given their chance to refresh the team, personally I don't agree for the reasons I gave before, but thats life, people will disagree. Like you say, you didn't get all melodramatic and say that our season was at stake like sonkoissuperman which was why I was on the high horse originally. A reality check is definatly a must at the end of this season, especially as a difficult second season has been a trend for promoted clubs recently.


Ah, sorry for my outburst then mate. Yeah, I agree that some people need to realise that this season has been amazing, no matter where we end up finishing in the league.

The only thing that I question is that Coppell says he never changes a winning team, yet we've not won for a good four games now so maybe Oster and Gunnarsson could be given a chance?

I'll still be happy with both Hunt and Harps in the team, but I'd just like to see Oster and Gunnarsson start a few league games because they've looked brilliant lately.

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Re: Changes to end poor run !

by Berthwaite » 19 Mar 2007 15:54

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sonkoissuperman we have had a blip in our results od late admittly against good oppostion but feel it is about time we start to use our large squad. Hunt works but i feel Oster would be a better replacement, Harper is hopeless bring on Bryan! Also i wouldn't mind seeing Halford in there somewhere even if on the bench but give the lad more than a min on the pitch! Hopefully this will be resolved at spurs if not i fear this could be the end of our season !
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Re: Changes to end poor run !

by phil in cornwall » 19 Mar 2007 16:39

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sonkoissuperman we have had a blip in our results od late admittly against good oppostion but feel it is about time we start to use our large squad. Hunt works but i feel Oster would be a better replacement, Harper is hopeless bring on Bryan! Also i wouldn't mind seeing Halford in there somewhere even if on the bench but give the lad more than a min on the pitch! Hopefully this will be resolved at spurs if not i fear this could be the end of our season !
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by Woodcote Royal » 19 Mar 2007 16:54

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All I've said is that as substitutes and bit-part players, Gunnarsson and Oster have been absolutely excellent recently, and have waited patiently so far this season. I am not suggesting that our team will fail without Oster and Gunnarsson in the starting line-up


Couldn't agree more up to this point but why do these 2 have to replace Harper and Hunt, especially when the latter had a decent game against Pompey, creating far more than Glen Little on the day :?

Whenever Gunnarsson has replaced Sidwell we've never missed the greedy one and if we don't want this season to just fade away, we should be building for the next with those commited to being here beyond June.

So, Sidwell out, and any of Gunnarsson, Oster or Halford in his place.

Should this result in anyone missing a backside to worship, try Hunty's................no one would deserve it more given the amount of cr@p he gets on these pages from those who, frankly, know much less about the game than they like to believe........................that's all I can be @rsed to post right now.......................

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by TFF » 19 Mar 2007 17:10

sonkoissuperman we have had a blip in our results od late admittly against good oppostion but feel it is about time we start to use our large squad. Hunt works but i feel Oster would be a better replacement, Harper is hopeless bring on Bryan! Also i wouldn't mind seeing Halford in there somewhere even if on the bench but give the lad more than a min on the pitch! Hopefully this will be resolved at spurs if not i fear this could be the end of our season !
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Another day sonkoissuperman ive said this two many times when will i be listened too ? Federici has got to be included in the 1st team! once again a shakey game from mr USA and ive had enough that first goal would have been saved be the mighty aussie ! lets stop sticking to what we feel comfortable with and take the right descison play the better keeper its not rocket science ! Also when is cop's gunna start kiston, long just looks lost up there, a talent but still devlopment needed


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by Thomas L'Heureux » 19 Mar 2007 17:13

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All I've said is that as substitutes and bit-part players, Gunnarsson and Oster have been absolutely excellent recently, and have waited patiently so far this season. I am not suggesting that our team will fail without Oster and Gunnarsson in the starting line-up


Couldn't agree more up to this point but why do these 2 have to replace Harper and Hunt, especially when the latter had a decent game against Pompey, creating far more than Glen Little on the day :?

Whenever Gunnarsson has replaced Sidwell we've never missed the greedy one and if we don't want this season to just fade away, we should be building for the next with those commited to being here beyond June.

So, Sidwell out, and any of Gunnarsson, Oster or Halford in his place.

Should this result in anyone missing a backside to worship, try Hunty's................no one would deserve it more given the amount of cr@p he gets on these pages from those who, frankly, know much less about the game than they like to believe........................that's all I can be @rsed to post right now.......................


I wouldn't be dissapointed to see Sidwell left out in favour of Gunnarsson, but over the course of the season I think Sidders has edged it over Harper if I'm being honest.

As you say though, if Sidwell is not likely to be here next season, then now is a better time than any to start bedding in a possible replacement, i.e Halford. We're over the 40 points mark, we're in the top-half of the table, and realistically, European qualification is not a nicesty.

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by Stranded » 19 Mar 2007 17:58

As I've said before, you pick your best 11 for the job. Sidwell is our best central midfielder and has certainly performed better than Harper over the last few games IMHO. So if one was to be dropped then Harper is the more likely candidate.

Hunt was one of our better players on Saturday (certainly first half) and was certainly better than in his previous two outings where I felt he was one of our poorer performers.

Yes, we are safe from relegation but the form you show toward the end of a season can often have an effect on the form you start the next - potentially taking your eye off the ball now to plan for something that still may not happen (however slim that may be) could have a more detrimental effect overall.


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by HighburyRoyale » 19 Mar 2007 18:40

Funny - I thought Hunt had his worst game in a long while on Saturday. I'm not his biggest fan anyway, but he's been brilliant this season. I think it's maybe time to try someone else out there - not Oster though...!

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Re: Changes to end poor run !

by Millsy » 19 Mar 2007 19:11

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sonkoissuperman we have had a blip in our results od late admittly against good oppostion but feel it is about time we start to use our large squad. Hunt works but i feel Oster would be a better replacement, Harper is hopeless bring on Bryan! Also i wouldn't mind seeing Halford in there somewhere even if on the bench but give the lad more than a min on the pitch! Hopefully this will be resolved at spurs if not i fear this could be the end of our season !
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by Banjax » 19 Mar 2007 20:00

id like to see a bit more of greggy H i was impressed at how long he warmed up for on Saturday it showed he was really up for a part in the game however small

when he finaly came on he was clearly trying to prove his signing was worthwhile he just didn't get the chance :(

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Re: Changes to end poor run !

by Coppelled Streets » 19 Mar 2007 21:19

sonkoissuperman we have had a blip in our results od late admittly against good oppostion but feel it is about time we start to use our large squad. Hunt works but i feel Oster would be a better replacement, Harper is hopeless bring on Bryan! Also i wouldn't mind seeing Halford in there somewhere even if on the bench but give the lad more than a min on the pitch! Hopefully this will be resolved at spurs if not i fear this could be the end of our season !
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by Woodcote Royal » 20 Mar 2007 02:51

Stranded As I've said before, you pick your best 11 for the job. Sidwell is our best central midfielder


Gunnarsson has been as good, if not better, when given the chance in recent matches so, he should be starting every game now on that basis :?

Being ex Arsenal might make Sidwell Man of the match in every other game in the eyes of the press (they never get his name wrong do they :roll: ) but back in Berkshire we have at least half a team who can compete with greedy bollox for player of the season, on equal terms or better.

Our season is over, we should be planning for the next which means, giving priority to those who have commited to the club as opposed to those who see us as their personal shop window from where they will entice their next employer :evil:

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by The whole year inn » 20 Mar 2007 03:30

On the other hand, dropping Sidwell now may piss him off enough to erase any ideas he has about staying at Reading past this summer.

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by Woodcote Royal » 20 Mar 2007 07:55

If that what it takes to stand the faintest chance of keeping him, it's high time he left.

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by Stranded » 20 Mar 2007 09:40

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Stranded As I've said before, you pick your best 11 for the job. Sidwell is our best central midfielder


Gunnarsson has been as good, if not better, when given the chance in recent matches so, he should be starting every game now on that basis :?

Being ex Arsenal might make Sidwell Man of the match in every other game in the eyes of the press (they never get his name wrong do they :roll: ) but back in Berkshire we have at least half a team who can compete with greedy bollox for player of the season, on equal terms or better.

Our season is over, we should be planning for the next which means, giving priority to those who have commited to the club as opposed to those who see us as their personal shop window from where they will entice their next employer :evil:


Gunnarsson has been as good as Sidwell in the few apps he has played in midfield whilst playing with Sidwell. So the arguement can easily be made that our best pairing in Sidwell and Gunnarsson.

Our season is far from over and frankly it's that sort of mindset that is more detrimental to the club than playing a player that may (and most probably will) be leaving in the summer.

We have 8 games left this season, 8 games that could in many ways be the most important yet - tail off in these 8 with the season ending in a wimper and it can have a negative effect on the start of next year - our hardest season yet.

It would also hit morale and team confidence. If we were to bring a player in now for Sidwell, just because he's leaving and it doesn't work out how do you think it will effect not just that player but the mindset of fans going in to next year.

No, you keep pushing until the end of the season (May 13th not March 20th) and use the preseason games to look at midfield partnerships then especially as there is probably a good chance that the midfielder starting next season isn't even at the club yet.

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by readingbedding » 20 Mar 2007 09:44

Next season will be tough
So will the next
And the next.
And the next.

etc etc etc.

This 2nd season thing hasn't been proven with us, I think it's complete bull, it's all about the mentality of the players, and we'll do just as well next year.

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by Stranded » 20 Mar 2007 09:47

I have no doubts they will but it is better for the mentality of the players to keep pushing on, so to suggest we need to drop Sidwell to try others as our season is over is totally the wrong mindset.

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by papereyes » 20 Mar 2007 10:00

readingbedding Next season will be tough
So will the next
And the next.
And the next.

etc etc etc.

This 2nd season thing hasn't been proven with us, I think it's complete bull, it's all about the mentality of the players, and we'll do just as well next year.


Only two, maybe three teams have matched their first season's position in the following season after promotion to the Premiership.

That said, most of the teams that stayed up safely did not suddenly start to struggle the next, it was the teams that already had struggled that continued to struggle.

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