Dave Kitson signs new deal

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by Tilehurst End » 28 Mar 2007 12:46

From Despair To Where? Even if Lita let his contract run down, he'd still be under 24 so he wouldn't go for free. Still need to nail him down to a new one but I can't see him signing more than a 1 year extention. This would take him to 24 and allow him to walk at the end and bag a decent signing on fee somewhere else. Unfortunately, it's how a football agent's mind works.

Great new that Kits has further committed himself to the club. Now, if only he can stay fit.


If he continues to develop at a decent rate I could see Shane Long as our most valuable asset in a year or two.

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by Big Ern » 28 Mar 2007 13:24

Behindu Selling a player is an option at any time and we're a rare club in that we have not been a 'selling' club for decades so people forget that for most clubs it's about finding a player and then looking to sell him asap.


We haven't been a selling club as we have very rarely had players that have been in demand up until now.

We have lost a lot of good players due to them bing out of contract such as Scot taylor, Adi Williams and Linvoy Primus, and we did sell Shaka to Newcastle for quite a bit.

To think Reading are unlike any other club is cold comfort. If a very good offer comes in for any of our player, it will be seriously considered, just the same as it would with many other Premiership clubs.

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by Behindu » 28 Mar 2007 13:31

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Behindu Selling a player is an option at any time and we're a rare club in that we have not been a 'selling' club for decades so people forget that for most clubs it's about finding a player and then looking to sell him asap.


We haven't been a selling club as we have very rarely had players that have been in demand up until now..

Do you really believe that ?
In the last half dozen seasons when we have been competing for promotion in every one of them you don;t think other clubs have been sniffing round after players ?
The backing of Mr M has meant we haven't had to sell to balance the books, if he'd pulled the plug then we would have been flogging off the likes of Fozzie, Cureton, Sidwell et al as soon as they started making names for themselves.
Big Ern We have lost a lot of good players due to them bing out of contract such as Scot taylor, Adi Williams and Linvoy Primus, and we did sell Shaka to Newcastle for quite a bit..


Adie wasn't out of contract, we released him early in the season becasue we weren't going to offer him an extension. We've lost very few players we wanted to keep (Jamie Ashodwn being the most recent I think, Linvoy was a long time ago and Scott Taylor even further back !)

Big Ern To think Reading are unlike any other club is cold comfort. If a very good offer comes in for any of our player, it will be seriously considered, just the same as it would with many other Premiership clubs..


But for many clubs they depend on those offers coming in, it's waht keeps them solvent. For a long time we have been stable enough (thanks to Mr M) to be able to keep players, and that situation looks set to continue.

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by Big Ern » 28 Mar 2007 13:39

Behindu Adie wasn't out of contract


When he left us to go to Wolves he was you tool.

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by Behindu » 28 Mar 2007 13:59

Big Ern
Behindu Adie wasn't out of contract


When he left us to go to Wolves he was you tool.


Bloomin heck, we're digging deep back into history aren;t we !!

So Reading ARE a selling club, based on 3 examples so far back in history that most fans weren;t even watching the club and the financial situation was about as different as can be...


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by Royalee » 28 Mar 2007 14:07

Big Ern
Behindu Selling a player is an option at any time and we're a rare club in that we have not been a 'selling' club for decades so people forget that for most clubs it's about finding a player and then looking to sell him asap.


We haven't been a selling club as we have very rarely had players that have been in demand up until now.

We have lost a lot of good players due to them bing out of contract such as Scot taylor, Adi Williams and Linvoy Primus, and we did sell Shaka to Newcastle for quite a bit.

To think Reading are unlike any other club is cold comfort. If a very good offer comes in for any of our player, it will be seriously considered, just the same as it would with many other Premiership clubs.


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by Woodcote Royal » 29 Mar 2007 00:06

Big Ern
Behindu Adie wasn't out of contract


When he left us to go to Wolves he was you tool.


Whatever Williams contract situation was when he signed for Wolves, we were paid £900k, so what's you're point :?

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by Royalee » 29 Mar 2007 05:04

Having just read the Evening Post quotes on the web, it just reinforces how glad I am Kitson's signed a new deal. He's absolute quality and completely sums up how I feel about certain things within football. May he stay here as long as possible and do well for us, as I'm sure he will.

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by Harold » 29 Mar 2007 09:38

Good to see Reading keep hold of their best striker.


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by Coppelled Streets » 29 Mar 2007 09:58

Harold Good to see Reading keep hold of their best striker.


LOL @ Doyle being better than Shevchenko

LOL @ Lita being better than Shevchenko

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by Big Ern » 29 Mar 2007 10:07

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Behindu Adie wasn't out of contract


When he left us to go to Wolves he was you tool.


Whatever Williams contract situation was when he signed for Wolves, we were paid £900k, so what's you're point :?


That we have lost a lot of players due to being out of contract.

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by Big Ern » 29 Mar 2007 10:15

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Behindu Adie wasn't out of contract


When he left us to go to Wolves he was you tool.


Bloomin heck, we're digging deep back into history aren;t we !!

So Reading ARE a selling club, based on 3 examples so far back in history that most fans weren;t even watching the club and the financial situation was about as different as can be...


William left for Wolves about 10 years ago and there will be many on the message board who remember it well. You possibly weren't born then, either way, it's not a long time and to say other wise just makes you look more pathetic and a bigger tool.

As far as not being a selling club are concerned, can you name a single player, other than Steve Sidwell, that we have recieved a sizable bid from one of the big clubs for?

The fact is, we are not different to any other club. If the right offer comes in, we will sell.

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by Woodcote Royal » 29 Mar 2007 11:05

Whilst JM has always aimed to make the club financially viable, he has never been known for pressuring managers into selling our best players, so, saying we've been a selling club under his tenure smacks of re-writing history in my view.

I would agree that we probably weren't over run with offers from bigger clubs but many that are made don't reach the public domain.

Adie was just under 25 when he was transfered to Wolves. So, either he was too young to leave for free (no idea what the rules were back then) or, he was still under contract.

If you know the answer, you might have a point, either way, but does it make you a "tool" if you don't :roll:


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by Behindu » 29 Mar 2007 11:18

Big Ern [As far as not being a selling club are concerned, can you name a single player, other than Steve Sidwell, that we have recieved a sizable bid from one of the big clubs for?
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Kevin Doyle

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by Behindu » 29 Mar 2007 11:41

Woodcote Royal Adie was just under 25 when he was transfered to Wolves. So, either he was too young to leave for free (no idea what the rules were back then) or, he was still under contract.



Adie went to Wolves (I've seen the fee described as £1 million plus) in 1996, the same year as the Bosman ruling. It would have been in the aftermatch of Bosman that players who were under 24 and out of contract had a fee assessed by a tribunal.
I'm fairly sure Adie's fee was not under this system.

I'm also struggling a bit to think of lots of players who we have wanted to keep but have turned down contract offers and left. Linvoy Primus, Jamie Henderson are two. Jamie Cureton we made a pretty low key offer (1 year ?) which indicated to me we were not really interested in keeping him. Someone else may be able to produce a huge list, but I've never thought that we lost many players that way.

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by Big Ern » 29 Mar 2007 11:42

Behindu
Big Ern [As far as not being a selling club are concerned, can you name a single player, other than Steve Sidwell, that we have recieved a sizable bid from one of the big clubs for?
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Kevin Doyle

Your next childish outburst is ?


Who from then?

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by Behindu » 29 Mar 2007 11:45

Aston Villa

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by Big Ern » 29 Mar 2007 11:52

Behindu Aston Villa


Paper talk from 'The Sun'. if you believe that then you are a fool.

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by Behindu » 29 Mar 2007 11:58

Actually it kind of makes my point....

We have no idea what interest there has been in any of our players. Press reports are unreliable and as a club we've always played things close to our chest.

You have no basis on which to claim we haven't received any interest / offers any more than I have to prove we have ! However I'd be pretty confident that Nicky Hammond has had plenty of enquiries in the last few years for most of our players.

Are you still working on your long list of players who have snubbed serious contract offers from the club and left for no fee ?

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by Big Ern » 29 Mar 2007 12:17

Behindu Actually it kind of makes my point....

We have no idea what interest there has been in any of our players. Press reports are unreliable and as a club we've always played things close to our chest.

You have no basis on which to claim we haven't received any interest / offers any more than I have to prove we have ! However I'd be pretty confident that Nicky Hammond has had plenty of enquiries in the last few years for most of our players.

Are you still working on your long list of players who have snubbed serious contract offers from the club and left for no fee ?


So press reports are unreliable but you claim Aston Villa mad a big offer for Doyle. :roll:

The fact is, your assertion that we are not a selling club is still ludicrous. Tottenham are a bigger club than us, but they still sold Carrick to Man Utd, Asrenal still sold Overmars and Petit to Barcelona, and more recently Arsenal sold Ashley Cole to Chelsea. If thise clubs can't hold onto their best players, then I'm sure we won;t either if the right offer comes in. Your failure to accept this simple fact just makes you look a fool and you are digging yourself deeper into a hole by trying to argue otherwise.

As far as a list of players that have snubbed contract offer, there is no long list and I have mentioned the only ones of note, and these players who could arguably feature in an all time RFC eleven. It is only been over for the last few years that we have had sustained success and when we were in the TB1 & TB2 era, it is easy to argue we had no players that would interest the top teams in the country. I mean, could you see Carl Asaba getting into the Man Utd team, or Neil Smith becoming Liverpools new central Midfield enforcer.

The fact that you couldn't remember Adi Williams move to Wolves just tells me you are a silly little child, looking at things through his blue and white tinted glasses and won't accept the fact that we are no different to anyother club.

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