BehinduArch3 veesinarow In the Good Old Days (copyright - Elm Park folklore), the ground was 80% terracing, 20% recycled wooden benches and 60% empty
With a row of corporate boxes running along the back of the North Stand for about as long as I can recall....
working class hero
Anyone else feel that last season [whilst enjoyable] was too predictable and that this season is a bit less enjoyable than a tense Championship finish?
Dr HfuhruhurrSpaceCruiserDr Hfuhruhurr Id actually, rather be back in the Championship.
You want us to be relegated?!?!?
How very observant of you. Spotter's badge.
ChaneyDr HfuhruhurrSpaceCruiserDr Hfuhruhurr Id actually, rather be back in the Championship.
You want us to be relegated?!?!?
How very observant of you. Spotter's badge.
dear oh dear, why dont you take up watching golf, this football thing really isnt for you is it?
just STOP going, no-one is forcing you DOCTOR. it might free up a seat for another plastic fan that has only supported Reading for 18 months
Behindu Bear in mind WCH only wants to pay 50p for his family of 19 to watch games.....
working class hero and bearing in mind that the ground is now full we have actually seen RFC quadruple income over the last 2 seasons.
Behindu Council tax goes up and I complain becasue I don;t see any more for my money.
RFC ticket prices go up and I don't complain (OK, I do a bit !) because instead of watching Elroy Kromheer and Paul Brayson playing against Bristol Rovers I see Sonko and Doyle against Rooney, Gerrard and Drogba.
So income may have quadrupled - but now add players wages! They have gone up too due to incentives from last few seasons!
knights_1990 I believe in standing up. F**K the new wembley i want the old!!!
southbank18713 veesinarow This picnic hamper thing is another dimension, really. Most of the chatter on this thread, as with the gazillion other threads about the same subject, accuses kids, families, older people, people with some disability that prevents them standing for longer periods - and, actually, people that simply do prefer to sit now that they have a seat to sit on - of destroying the shared experience of attending football matches, home or away.
The trouble is, those type of people have been going to games since time immemorial and that won't change. It's the set-up of the stadia and the attitudes and policies of clubs/health & safety zealots that have changed the experience, not the people attending as fans and spectators.
It's not picnic hamper carriers that sit in the open stands, is it? (and FFS, drop the lunchbox/colours & shirt-wearing observations - they are so tedious and irrational). It's the soulless corporate boxes and their client entertainment that are taking over the stadia, using up space that would otherwise have been occupied by ordinary seats and dare I say, ordinary folk. They're only going to increase, you'll never see a box taken out except to be improved/expanded.
In the Good Old Days (copyright - Elm Park folklore), the ground was 80% terracing, 20% recycled wooden benches and the only executive boxes were the ones the kids used to stand on to see. Most people didn't have a choice about whether to stand or sit and it was all part of the accepted norm.
Reserved seating is, of course, the bane of the away supporter as it does not allow groups of like-minded supporters to congregate together and perhaps more lobby groups should ask for this policy to be dropped for away fans. It won't happen, however, as they will tell you it's easier to control a crowd when the hoolies and standers are spread out across the away end and unable to come together. This, of course, works against the sitters for the very same reason, as with almost no exception, they will not move someone to a seat nearer the front, as that allows the standers to move together into the swopped seats.
Bemoan the way the modern game is run, rage at the money being thrown at the top end of the game, rail against the souless corporate branding of stadia, yearn for nostalgia - which it ain't what it used to be - but please, please leave alone the individuals who are just trying to watch a game of football and have spent as much hard-earned cash as you to get there or have been taken by their parents because they want to be there. If they're at an away game, they've put in some effort to get there. They deserve much better than they get from "fellow" fans.
Won't be reading that
working class hero Well - players wages are approximately £15 k per week. This equates to approx 750 k per annum or about 18 million for players wages.
Income from tickets is approximately 13 million. Then there is the income from catering / hospitality / megastore sales / the rip off sales centre line / parking / programmes / reserve games / interest on ST sales / cup income / prize money / football in the community schools / mascots etc....
It would seem that the TV cash should therefore be jam on the bread and butter.....
working class heroBehindu Council tax goes up and I complain becasue I don;t see any more for my money.
RFC ticket prices go up and I don't complain (OK, I do a bit !) because instead of watching Elroy Kromheer and Paul Brayson playing against Bristol Rovers I see Sonko and Doyle against Rooney, Gerrard and Drogba.
But when your pay goes up [unless you are promoted] you probably don't expect to do more for it do you?
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