Leroy's headbutt

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by Bacon Double Cheese » 11 Apr 2007 16:36

Rhys The Royal And he walks free after blatently pushing Shane Long in the box. :evil:
Painful :shock:

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by Katie Marsden » 11 Apr 2007 16:38

Absolute disgrace.

How can Diouf get away with almost breaking Phil Neville's leg with a disgusting challenge and Lita gets fcuked over a nothing incident.

Still, Coppell will no doubt be quietly pleased, another excuse as to why we won't make a bid for Europe.

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by Stooper » 11 Apr 2007 16:40

Katie Marsden Absolute disgrace.

How can Diouf get away with almost breaking Phil Neville's leg with a disgusting challenge and Lita gets fcuked over a nothing incident.

Still, Coppell will no doubt be quietly pleased, another excuse as to why we won't make a bid for Europe.


Because it's only Phil Neville.

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by RoyalBlue » 11 Apr 2007 16:57

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RoyalBlue Typical barsteward Poll. Lets Song get away with murder, denies us a clear cut penalty, makes half-time arrangements to benefit Parjudas and then decides that Leroy deserves a red card for what the Sky tv pundits described as a nothing incident.

Given the idiot can't even count to two and sees so little in a game, his view of the post match video should count for bugger all.

Failing that, he should be asked to review the video for the rest of the game and explain his other bizarre decisions.


Whilst Poll made mistakes, I'm sorry, but if any ref had seen Lita do that he would have been off - no question.

Leroy screwed up, he'll get a ban - that's life.


Those refs might also have made a mistake in sending him off, as the Sky footage I saw was inconclusive over whether any contact was made. I would also suggest that, had contact been made, the Charlton cheat would have really needed treatment for his injury.

As for screwing up and getting a ban - Poll also screwed up big time in this game and should get a ban. However, unless the PGMOL show more balls than the FA, he probably won't because life for him is different.

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by Katie Marsden » 11 Apr 2007 16:58

You have to wonder how big a part Sky Sports News plays in all this, any sort of incident and they replay it endlessly for hours untill the FA take note.


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by zac naloen » 11 Apr 2007 16:58

I'm not sure that burden of proof is necessary on a message board.
Was the official site announcement good enough?
Why not just try believing that what some of us write is what is actually happening?
What next?
Proof of I.D. and Money Laundering clearance before anybody posts anything?



The Burden of proof applies to anyone making a statement about anything.

There was no official announcement this morning when the request for a source was made.

It's not that I don't believe you it's that I want to read the oxf*rd article and don't have time to trawl through 6 + newspapers trying to find a story.

It's not difficult to say "I saw it in the [insert paper name here]"

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by TBM » 11 Apr 2007 17:02

At the end of the day if it was the other way round and somebody did it to us we would be calling for their head......Lita will get a ban and rightly so. If he thinks its unfair then he shouldn't have even gone near him with his head.

Simple really.

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by Derbyshire Royal » 11 Apr 2007 17:16

TBM At the end of the day if it was the other way round and somebody did it to us we would be calling for their head......Lita will get a ban and rightly so. If he thinks its unfair then he shouldn't have even gone near him with his head.

Simple really.


Agree completely. Lita is class but a silly boy with it sometimes. He will be banned and will deserve it, SC should dock his wages too. Cant blame the other player as they are trained to fold when touched by another player.

And yes Poll is a twat, everyone knows it. Even the FA knows it but they wont do anything about it as they have no balls

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by paultheroyal » 11 Apr 2007 18:14

Just seen the footage - yes a meal was made of it - but intent was there - contact was made even if it was light - he will get punished and will get at least a 3 game ban.

Coppell will not be impressed. Lita wont start again this season now.


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by Rhys The Royal » 11 Apr 2007 18:50

paultheroyal Just seen the footage - yes a meal was made of it - but intent was there - contact was made even if it was light - he will get punished and will get at least a 3 game ban.

Coppell will not be impressed. Lita wont start again this season now.


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by RoyalBlue » 11 Apr 2007 19:32

Katie Marsden You have to wonder how big a part Sky Sports News plays in all this, any sort of incident and they replay it endlessly for hours untill the FA take note.


Then they also ought to keep re-running Pardew's statement re his arrangement with Poll and the clear cut penalty, which the cheat (and in my view the 'arrangement' makes him that) Poll denied us.

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by Stranded » 11 Apr 2007 19:44

Rhys The Royal
paultheroyal Just seen the footage - yes a meal was made of it - but intent was there - contact was made even if it was light - he will get punished and will get at least a 3 game ban.

Coppell will not be impressed. Lita wont start again this season now.


:lol:


Why the laughter? If he gets a three match ban, it's very possible.

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by rg6royal » 11 Apr 2007 20:30

don't see why he did it really because he was bound to get done for it with the video footage and thats what is happening. Leroy is an excellent striker but needs to control himself sometimes and needs to grow up a bit.


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by comeonthebiscuitmen » 11 Apr 2007 22:23

is the footage on youtube?
Leroy got in his face but he didnt headbutt the guy.
El karkouri was clearly trying it on.
wasnt hurt, went down like a sack of spuds and got up when he saw that he wasnt getting anything.
maybe Leroy should have been booked for being overly aggresive but as I saw it he was not guilty of violent conduct.

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by The 17 Bus » 12 Apr 2007 07:24

best I can find is this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NocTZZbl0EU is 2 mins 30 seconds in, having watched it we really did seem to be trying to win it.

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by West Stand Man » 12 Apr 2007 09:40

comeonthebiscuitmen is the footage on youtube?
Leroy got in his face but he didnt headbutt the guy.
El karkouri was clearly trying it on.
wasnt hurt, went down like a sack of spuds and got up when he saw that he wasnt getting anything.
maybe Leroy should have been booked for being overly aggresive but as I saw it he was not guilty of violent conduct.


IF he did motion to headbutt El Karkouri (and I think he did) then that is sufficient to constitute violent conduct. The demonstration of intent is enough. It was a stupid thing to do and I am sure that he knows it. Even in the law of the land it is possible to commit an assault without actually touching someone (I am sure one of the many lawyers who frequent this site will have a view).

If he made no contact then I am sure the disciplinary committee will take that into account when setting the punishment, but I have little doubt that he will be found guilty and will be punished.

Does that make him a stupid boy or a disturbed criminal - for me it is the former.

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by Dirk Gently » 12 Apr 2007 09:52

Considering that he must have known that he was surrounded by about 20 cameras, a very stupid boy!

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by Behindu » 12 Apr 2007 10:17

From what I saw Lita's gesture was minor to say the least, I would suggest there was little if any violent 'intent' - certainly far less than shown by Song.

However Lita shouldn't have put himself in the situation, there is no defence for an off the ball incident and whilst you can say that there have been many far worse instances of violence this season (hello Upson, Riggott....) Lita should have known better.

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by lozz2601 » 12 Apr 2007 10:50

Although I think it's a bit ridiculous to get hauled up for "intent", if someone had done that to one of our players I'd think he should get a ban.
Stupid of Leroy.

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by Silver Fox » 12 Apr 2007 11:07

If I was LEroy I'd request a personal hearing and in the knowledge that you're already getting a 3 match ban use the time to find out when refs and managers started colluding in trying to avoid players being sent off.

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