Liverpool or Milan - who do you want to win?

[Slinky]

Milan for me - work around too many arrogant reds that will be unbearable if they win!! The City is heaving with red today as you'd expect!

[3 veesinarow]

last 10 years of liverpool has been ultimately unsuccessful, one champions league, uefa cup, and a few domestic cups?

99.5% of teams would take being that "unsuccessful".

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

And, of course, United were reigning domestic champions the year they won the CL?

[SpaceCruiser]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

[LUX]

Liverpool, as it will piss off the Chelsea and Man Utd saddos after their tedious third place play off on Saturday.

spot on.

Despite trying to, Chelsea cannot buy the success that Liverpool are having (and have had for 30 years) in this, the most important club competition.

[frimleygreen_shotspur]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

but there is no longer a european cup.

[1960]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

[Stranded]

Don't really mind as long as all the action takes place in the 2nd half onward as I'll miss the first half.

[sheshnu]

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

The name of the competition is completely irrelevant. They only called it that because they thought it sounded cool anyway.

[Maguire]

Milan, but I don't care really.

The CL is a big old farce and it's ruined beyond redemption now anyway, so who cares if a side wins it who haven't been champions of their own country in as long as I can even remember.

Milan to win 3-1.

[Monkey Magic]

Liverpool, as Milan are proven cheats. They were convicted of match fixing, their "punishment" is a bad joke.

[hiro]

Definately, Liverpool.
Winner of this match come to play World Club Champiohship in Japan coming December. I prefer the team from Premiership.
Two years ago, I have seen Liverpool play against the champion team from North America in Yokohama, but 60000 seater studium was pretty much empty. Still, seeing and hearing some Liverpool supporter from England singing THAT song was amazingly touching.

Every year, I wish if Chelsea or Arsenal could win the title, as my close English friend are all either teams supporter, and they would fly to Tokyo and I can see them.
On the other hand, my Italian friend live in Milan support Inter, so I don't care if AC Milan win.
Kick off is 3:45am here, so I should go to bed now.

[SpaceCruiser]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

[Ginger Ninjas]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

[TBM]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

LOL - watch Spacey wriggle out of this one!

[T.R.O.L.I.]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

And, FWIW, neither did the following:

AC Milan in 2003
Real Madrid in 2000
Man United in 1999

IMO, they should revert to solely the Champions of each country in this competition. However, as the money men are now involved its never going to happen.

[TBM]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

And, FWIW, neither did the following:

AC Milan in 2003
Real Madrid in 2000
Man United in 1999

IMO, they should revert to solely the Champions of each country in this competition. However, as the money men are now involved its never going to happen.

You watch - in a few years time i bet you the champions of each country will go into a "super league" for the next season and not compete in the domestic competition till the following season!

[EASTENDER MARKY]

Milan.

[SpaceCruiser]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

We're talking about last year, not the year before. Granted that they didn't win the domestic league the year before, but we were talking about last year. Don't move the goalposts.

[Stranded]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

And, FWIW, neither did the following:

AC Milan in 2003
Real Madrid in 2000
Man United in 1999

IMO, they should revert to solely the Champions of each country in this competition. However, as the money men are now involved its never going to happen.

Madrid also finished 5th a year they won it and were put back in by the Spanish FA rather than the team that finished 4th.

[papereyes]

they shouldn't even have played last year because they didn't qualify, infact they were never domestic champions.

But being holders of the European Cup, they qualified. In the old days, before this Champions League marlarky, teams who won the European Cup automatically qualified for the following season's competition, even if they failed to win their domestic league. You can check out those facts for yourself.

But I think the point is that they were the fifth best team in England at the time and that, even more than usual, blows the European CHAMPIONS League concept out of the water.

But they were CHAMPIONS of EUROPE.

And how did they enter the competition in the year they won? As chamipons? No.

And, FWIW, neither did the following:

AC Milan in 2003
Real Madrid in 2000
Man United in 1999

IMO, they should revert to solely the Champions of each country in this competition. However, as the money men are now involved its never going to happen.

You watch - in a few years time i bet you the champions of each country will go into a "super league" for the next season and not compete in the domestic competition till the following season!

But they'd want to stay in the super-league due to the money.

I can imagine one with a regional slant.

4 'conferences' of about 10 teams, so you play each team in your conference and a selection of teams from across the continent. Conferences are done on a regional basis, so you keep your derbies but get some of the big names involved.

Bottom teams would be recycled back to their leagues through a series of playoffs between the constituent leagues (basically the UEFA cup but not quite), but I wouldn't even bet that that would happen.

So you'd have a Northern European conference (essentially England, Scotland, Holland), a Central European one (essentially France, Belgium, Germany), a Southern Conference (Spain, Portugal, Italy) and an Eastern one (utterly pointless as there aren't any big clubs there). Top teams from the conferences go through to an end of season play-off and you have a final.

And yes, I do realise that its a bit like the NFL.