Stadium Expansion

[bb0118]

For those wishing to see the video and dont wish to pay £1.99 could always contact:


http://www.acpractice.co.uk/ - website is pretty bare mind

These are the peeps behind the expansion. Ask for Richard Taylor too.

[G'La]

For those wishing to see the video and dont wish to pay £1.99 could always contact:

These are the peeps behind the expansion. Ask for Richard Taylor too.

You make it sound so tight...... £1.99!

Its more a case of some shitty media company coining it in by reporting on tin-pot stories/interviews that mugs like me are occasionally interested in. Rather not give the the money. I'd much rather spend £1.99 on a bag of rancid chips outside the ground..... in Rotherham!...... right now with water up past my knees!

[Coppelled Streets]

Anyone close enough to the club able to tell us if the east stand expansion is likely to go ahead even if we're relegated this season?

It would still make perfect sense to go ahead with it for when we went back up (it would happen, one day at least) and of course for the bigger games when we can get 24,000 in the Championship, we can offer those empty seats to schools etc and attract yet more bums on seats.

Maybe Behindu or Dirk Gently can help shed some light on the plans, or STAR?

[Dirk Gently]

Anyone close enough to the club able to tell us if the east stand expansion is likely to go ahead even if we're relegated this season?

It would still make perfect sense to go ahead with it for when we went back up (it would happen, one day at least) and of course for the bigger games when we can get 24,000 in the Championship, we can offer those empty seats to schools etc and attract yet more bums on seats.

Maybe Behindu or Dirk Gently can help shed some light on the plans, or STAR?

No current information from me! I'd imagine that what happens on the pitch and what demand is like between now and January will go a long way to deciding what will happen.

[Behindu]

I've heard different things from different people, and none seem 'definitive'.
I doubt relegation would be at all relevant. Decisions will be made before that stage of the season as work would start as soon as the season ends and contracts will need to be signed before that.
i think they will look at crowds this season up until around Jan and decide on those.
Obviously if they continue at current levels it's a 'Go'....

[shadesrwrf]

IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN

Close the thread.

[Bill Oddie]

Expansion needs to go ahead, this will define the size of our club for the next 100 years. People who disagree are likely to be the same mob who said the mad stad was too big and would rather give a further 5/10 million to Tommy Burns instead ! Look at the long term not just the next season & a half. Go Jonney Go and fulfill your dream.

[Daniella]

We hadn't peaked then had we? We have now and the only way is backwards.

[Coppelled Streets]

We hadn't peaked then had we? We have now and the only way is backwards.

That's your opinion and not a fact!

If we do receive some investment as is John Madejski's current plan, that would make us far more competitive and the target then would be european football.

Never say never!

[working class hero]

We hadn't peaked then had we? We have now and the only way is backwards.

That's your opinion and not a fact!

If we do receive some investment as is John Madejski's current plan, that would make us far more competitive and the target then would be european football.

Never say never!

Unless we start paying OTT wages we will not attract top players. If we do opt to break the wage structure then prices will have to rise - and there is no proof that investment will work [Leeds / Bradford / Barnsley etc]. If prices rise then more fans will be forced out. We are already pondering on giving up out STs next year - not because of relegation worries, more on cost grounds.
I suspect many others will also bite the bullet if prices rise.

And so we see the dilemma. Raise wages and prices and lose the fans who paid when in the wilderness - and there is no real rush for STs atm....
Do not invest and sink and lose the glory hunters.....

European football. You are having a

[Dirk Gently]

We hadn't peaked then had we? We have now and the only way is backwards.

That's your opinion and not a fact!

If we do receive some investment as is John Madejski's current plan, that would make us far more competitive and the target then would be european football.

Never say never!

Unless we start paying OTT wages we will not attract top players. If we do opt to break the wage structure then prices will have to rise - and there is no proof that investment will work [Leeds / Bradford / Barnsley etc]. If prices rise then more fans will be forced out. We are already pondering on giving up out STs next year - not because of relegation worries, more on cost grounds.
I suspect many others will also bite the bullet if prices rise.

And so we see the dilemma. Raise wages and prices and lose the fans who paid when in the wilderness - and there is no real rush for STs atm....
Do not invest and sink and lose the glory hunters.....

European football. You are having a

But with an expansion prices wouldn't have to rise because the extra capacity would allow the overall income to rise in fact, there's no way anyone could defend the club if prices did rise after such an expansion.

[Wax Jacket]

but football doesn't operate in the usual sphere of economic/business rules and laws.

they will charge more

[Dirk Gently]

but football doesn't operate in the usual sphere of economic/business rules and laws.

they will charge more

If they do it'll be financial suicide, and they'll get deafened by the criticism from all quarters.

[Schards#2]

but football doesn't operate in the usual sphere of economic/business rules and laws.

they will charge more

If they do it'll be financial suicide, and they'll get deafened by the criticism from all quarters.

Maybe not all quarters, I suspect there will be still be one or two apologists.

[Dirk Gently]

but football doesn't operate in the usual sphere of economic/business rules and laws.

they will charge more

If they do it'll be financial suicide, and they'll get deafened by the criticism from all quarters.

Maybe not all quarters, I suspect there will be still be one or two apologists.

Possibly, but I can't think of any grounds on which price increases could possibly be excused or explained.

[Katie Marsden]

This decision will define the club for the next 20 years.

If the club has any ambitions of becoming an established Premiership club it needs to go ahead with this. I see even Fulham are extending their ground to 30,000.

I think if we showed some more ambition in the transfer market we'd fill a 30,000 stadium more often than not. Who cares if tickets go on general sale, it matters not. All that matters is if the ground is 90% full on average for the whole season. Only very few clubs sell out every home game.

If the club don't go ahead with the extension it will send out a message that it has no ambition at all.

[Dirk Gently]

This decision will define the club for the next 20 years.

If the club has any ambitions of becoming an established Premiership club it needs to go ahead with this. I see even Fulham are extending their ground to 30,000.

I think if we showed some more ambition in the transfer market we'd fill a 30,000 stadium more often than not. Who cares if tickets go on general sale, it matters not. All that matters is if the ground is 90% full on average for the whole season. Only very few clubs sell out every home game.

If the club don't go ahead with the extension it will send out a message that it has no ambition at all.

Nail.
On.
Head.

[Wycombe Royal]

This decision will define the club for the next 20 years.

If the club has any ambitions of becoming an established Premiership club it needs to go ahead with this. I see even Fulham are extending their ground to 30,000.

I think if we showed some more ambition in the transfer market we'd fill a 30,000 stadium more often than not. Who cares if tickets go on general sale, it matters not. All that matters is if the ground is 90% full on average for the whole season. Only very few clubs sell out every home game.

If the club don't go ahead with the extension it will send out a message that it has no ambition at all.

Nail.
On.
Head.

Ditto.

I think the East Stand extension is a nailed on certainty, the other two stands may have to wait a bit longer.

[handbags_harris]

We hadn't peaked then had we? We have now and the only way is backwards.

In the current climate part of your comment rings true, although to suggest the only way is backwards is ludicrous. We could just as easily plateau until the climate changes, possibly going back 20 or 30 years when clubs were run in a financially astute manner, and clubs the size of RFC could easily get into the UEFA Cup at least. Remember Liverpool in the late 50's? A club in the 2nd tier, within 5 years they were a top 3 club. Notts Forest were a mediocre club until Clough arrived. Even Leeds were promoted in 89/90 and by 91/92 they had won the league. A return to those days would see, in my opinion, higher crowds, greater income generation through business exploits and not Murdoch's empire, and an all round better competition. This is (hopefully) why we need the capacity increase.

[working class hero]

We hadn't peaked then had we? We have now and the only way is backwards.

That's your opinion and not a fact!

If we do receive some investment as is John Madejski's current plan, that would make us far more competitive and the target then would be european football.

Never say never!

Unless we start paying OTT wages we will not attract top players. If we do opt to break the wage structure then prices will have to rise - and there is no proof that investment will work [Leeds / Bradford / Barnsley etc]. If prices rise then more fans will be forced out. We are already pondering on giving up out STs next year - not because of relegation worries, more on cost grounds.
I suspect many others will also bite the bullet if prices rise.

And so we see the dilemma. Raise wages and prices and lose the fans who paid when in the wilderness - and there is no real rush for STs atm....
Do not invest and sink and lose the glory hunters.....

European football. You are having a

But with an expansion prices wouldn't have to rise because the extra capacity would allow the overall income to rise in fact, there's no way anyone could defend the club if prices did rise after such an expansion.

Although JM has said the cost of expansion is £1000 per seat - so almost 2 seasons worth of selling out the extension to break even.... So prices would still rise to make up for massive wages. Let's be fair JM [for all his spin] ain't no philanthropist.....